Comments on: Music Industry Takes Soulseek to Court

By: peter fnord

peter fnord — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:00:09 +0000

soulseek server is down for several hours now. any news on this ?

By: friedman

friedman — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:51:28 +0000

seems they finally closed it?

By: Fan_De

Fan_De — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:10:51 +0000

In ANY case Music should be an UNIVERSAL holding as patrimonio del humanidad ….

A french adv for LEGAL music distribution indicates than more than a BILLION of piracy files are exchanged every year… SO a billion of judiciary cases ???

By: brechinboy

brechinboy — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:06:26 +0000

not soulseek! I don’t understand this, who gives a shet with what a smelly french court thinks.

well said mate who gives a fuck what the french frogs say soulseek is one of the best p2p programs about the french want tae get a fuckin grip

By: J Bostron

J Bostron — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:22:30 +0000

i use slsk to promote my music
ive also had illegal copies of my own releases appear on slsk but do u hear me complaining?

music industry nazi lawyer takeover
god damnit piss off somewhere else n make some money without suing perfectly useful software companies

numptys

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:55:48 +0000

Nov 20, 2008 at 23:08 by http://www.eZee.se
Dumb fu*ks trying to stifle innovation via threats and industry lobbied laws rather than adapt.

The only ones who are going to make a killing on this are the lawyers, the industry is too dumb to see this is going to fail… but everyone else sees the writing clearly on the wall.

F-A-I-L.

By: valk

valk — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:28:42 +0000

that is very shitty cuz whne you see the price there in france !! like 20/25 € a fucking CD ! last time i seen vader for 34€ ill still remember lol I buy many cds myself. !!!!! fnac knows me well. but i refuse to buy shits too! and still many things i cant find in the cd-stores!and thats not normal!!! THAT REALLY PISS ME OFF!!!!! they better work on this first instead of attacking those!!! SERIOUSLY !! IM TIRED WHEN I THINK THAT I HAVE THE MONEY BUT I CANT BUY WHAT I WANT CUZ THEY CANT GET IT NOR IN IMPORT !!!! and then if the whole population downloads thats in own fault? LET ME LAUGH !!!! shitty…

those wars are illarious and shits.

By: william j bubloo

william j bubloo — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:48:34 +0000

I have used soulseek in the past. all i can say is that soulseek is an awesome alternative to limewire. The downloads are fast, and the application is very light and simple. I vote for a victory (hopefully) to soulseek.
DOWN WITH THE MAFIAA

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:36:09 +0000

How promising! Perhaps soon they will shut every way of getting educated in new music, and we will unanimously buy only what major tv networks advertise. Superb, no?

Sarcasm, aside, SoulSeek helped me discover sub genres that were never available in my country, and loads of Japanese artists, that were not available anywhere in Europe.

Due to SoulSeek and a couple other communities we have educated the ones interested and now we are supporting artists that we would have never heard of, other wise.

Saying p2p hurts sales, is a freaking oxymoron. Please stop suing innocents chaps, they need the money to support you, idiotic music industry!

By: me

me — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:11:23 +0000

FRENCH FUCKING TWATS

By: 58

58 — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:40:38 +0000

These music companies make many millions of dollars off of people buying records. However, for them that is not enough. As long as there is one person out there DLing something and, in their eyes, “stealing” from them then then they will go after whoever they can. They are money grubbing _______!!

By: anonymous

anonymous — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:33:42 +0000

so what happens if soulseek is in country X, and they get sued in france…? are they going to send french cops to country X, or ask for extradition? wtf. it just doesn’t make any sense, if anything, don’t allow for downloads to france from the soulseek site, but this won’t stop french users from getting the soulseek client, are they stupid?

By: CHRoNoSS

CHRoNoSS — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:17:35 +0000

/mpaa pres slams fist on table but we pwn the presidency now with biden there, we pwn canada cause we made microsoft our buddy aka bell canada.
why can’t musicians bend over and take it like my wife does

By: free your music

free your music — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:15:47 +0000

a famous canuck said

make mixed music cds
and leave them everywhere

maybe when every park bench has a nice selection of tunes aorund they will get thehint

oh why not drop a few at city hall
and your parliament

time to get the TUNES OUT

By: Malamut

Malamut — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:45:23 +0000

they will never understand that the solution is to follow the flow and not trying to swim against it ….

next thing we will know a other nice program will goes out with the exact same purpose ….

a other sword slash in water

By: Roze

Roze — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:38:57 +0000

@42
It is completely incorrect that money is all the power in the world. Sure, money ensures a lot of power, which is why, over the ages, the big lords were able to oppress the peasants so much. However, it is not without historical precedent that the the will of the people have triumphed over the power of money. Take, for example, the progressive era in the U.S.

Roze

By: DD

DD — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:27:11 +0000

i just can’t get why industry authorities don’t percieve that the era of selling music is “Over”. They can earn from ads,and set the ppl free…

By: BeZ

BeZ — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:13:26 +0000

better outlaw radio stations all over the world that play copyrighted music…somebody might have an audiotape and be recording them! *gasps*

money grubbing greedy c*cksuckers.

By: La industria musical francesa denuncia a SoulSeek » SoftwareZone : Blog sobre Software con tutoriales de ayuda y noticias

Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:53:29 +0000

[...] Fuente | torrentfreak [...]

By: NA

NA — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:02:54 +0000

Exactly. No one uses it, so it is almost impossible to find some of the rarer stuff.

Why do you guys even bother posting stories about a program maybe 5k people use regularly?

By: storge

storge — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:15:43 +0000

this is great advertising for soulseek. hardly anyone uses it.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:05:49 +0000

The RIAA is a terrorist organization.

Each time that you buy a RIAA album you are supporting terrorism, remember that.

By: Doink

Doink — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:42:33 +0000

RICO Class Action Against RIAA In Missouri: http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/11/21/1644213.shtml

By: links for 2008-11-21 « Clint’s blog

links for 2008-11-21 « Clint’s blog — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:17:20 +0000

[...] P2P: Music Industry Takes Soulseek to Court The music industry is COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. Now they are suing ISPs, makers of software, and open source platforms (SourceForge) that host 10000+ programs because ONE of these COULD be used for copyright infringment. [...]

By: Grok

Grok — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:56:58 +0000

More ridiculous things.

When for-profit labels lose in competition to non-profit labels, it’s clear that business models have to change.

No. Instead, they would rather sue (when they have no claim).

By: Soulseek vor Gericht « 11k2

Soulseek vor Gericht « 11k2 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:32:49 +0000

[...] Soulseek vor Gericht Die französische SACEM, sozusagen die dortige Gema mit einem Jahresumsatz von 759,1 Millionen Euro, hat Klage gegen die Filesharingplattform Soulseek eingereicht. Mit Unterstützung der SCPP, der Vereinigung der in Frankreich vertretenen Musikfirmen. Weil dort Files gesharet werden. Was ja dasselbe ist wie Piraterie. Denkt zumindest die SACEM. Problem: Auf Soulseek gibt der Nutzer seinen Uploadordner nicht für Millionen anonymer Nachwuchspiraten frei, sondern jeweils nur einem einzigen anderen Nutzer. Falls es sich hierbei um urheberrechtlich geschützte Werke handelt (was ja auch der Fall ist, wenn die downzuloadende Musik vom Uploader komponiert wurde, wie auf Soulseek oft der Fall), muss der Uploader diese erst in einen kopierbaren Zustand, sprich eine MP3 überführt haben. Also kann es sich bei Soulseek nicht um eine Einrichtung zur illegalen Zugänglichmachung geschützter Werke handeln. Wir wissen das, aber wissen das auch die französischen Richter? (via torrentfreak) [...]

By: lol

lol — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:14:11 +0000

I must say that I am all for file sharing..

but its amazing how retarded alot of you have become (Especially you Roze)

You think file sharers are going to change big business? Remove there ability to abuse the system?

You have all completely lost it. Only 1 thing matters in this world to them, MONEY. Always has been, always will be. Sure I agree with all your ideas, but actualy changing them legally is out of the question. The only thing that may happen is that piracy becomes so rampant that they actualy have to change by force, and from the looks of there revenue stream, thats not happening any time soon.

Get your head out the clouds, they are stronger then ever, sure they are a dinosaur of an industry, but they arent going anywhere anytime soon.

Just be happy we still have access to free content, and as for people getting sued, all you can do is hide yourself. They have more money then we can dream of, more power then we will ever have, and more corruption we will never know about.

The only difference any one of you will ever make is the more crap you download and the more people to spread it to and teach to do it themselves. So stop bitching on here as if this place makes a difference.

By: Roze

Roze — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:59:13 +0000

@38
You mean very slowly. How will the industry ever stop these abuses? They will continue to do so as long as the law sanctions it. They will continue to do so as long as they can – the only way to stop them is to remove their ability to do so.

Roze

By: d

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:17:45 +0000

This is great. I had just assumed that soulseek had died like most of the rest from its time with the advent of torrents. I hope they can win, and it seems as though they’d have the best chance of any if their user base really does have a large amount of artists.

By: Jason Wright

Jason Wright — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:45:41 +0000

Its time for the people to stand up. If poeple would STOP buying music and going to and renting movies, it would set them steright real quick!

http://www.anonymity.cz.tc

By: Tim Jones

Tim Jones — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:44:24 +0000

Until the people STAND UP, the abuse will never stop. BOYCOTT all music and movie products and the industry WILL get the message VERY quickly!

Jess
http://www.Privacy-Center.net

By: kafka

kafka — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:35:25 +0000

to hell with it, SS was the last resort, and seemed like it’s gonna withstand the worst of the lawsuit storms (only cause it’s not that popular ?). SS will live on and if it will be taken down, new, better P2P client will take it’s place. Rip it, share it, buy it only if you wish to join the ebil forces.

By: damn

damn — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:15:05 +0000

the whole industrie is filled with retarted incapable people with their minds still in the stoneage.

lobbygroups are mostly lawyers, lawyers are not human, they are…lawyers.

everything they tell is a lie.

GO SOULSEEK!!!!! KILL THEM

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:45:47 +0000

you guys just blew any chance of me buying a dvd from you any time soon [if ever again]

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:27:58 +0000

Some one needs to kill these pricks.. I find it so fucked that just a small handfull of people are controlling are culture…. If they ruin Soulseek at all it will be the last straw for me…

I DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO THEIR SHIT MUSIC.. FFS

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:45:16 +0000

SACEM and SCCP aren’t suing Soulseek because it can be used to share copyrighted work. That’s really just a pretense.

They’re suing Soulseek because it gives independant/unsigned artists a cost-free platform for publishing where said artists are in control and said artists reap the majority of profit, and that scares the recording industry shitless.

The only thing keeping them alive are the naive musicians they hoodwink with lies and handwaving. But things like Soulseek are educating tomorrow’s artists about the actual nature of the RIAA/bigtime record labels as bloodsucking middlemen nobody needs.

This lawsuit, like so many others these dinosars have filed in their vain attempt to keep the future at bay, is destined for failure.

By: Bootdisk

Bootdisk — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:30:14 +0000

FSCKING SACEM ASSH0LES (yes I’m french)

I’ve hanged out on Soulseek for a few years by now, and most of the mixes and tunes I download there are even shared by THE ARTISTS WHO DID THEM, happy themselves to spread their music and get feedback about it !

I’m starting to get really upset about the dumbasses ruling us and those fscking lobbies puppeteering them…

By: idol

idol — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:30:44 +0000

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By: MERRY CHRISTMAS

MERRY CHRISTMAS — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:25:40 +0000

Niggers.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:02:51 +0000

http://freeipodsaregreat.blogspot.com/

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:03:14 +0000

@1 Should Jan Kneschke be worried? The Pirate Bay, Mininova and isoHunt all use lighttpd. SPPF, SACEM and SCPP don’t like those three. Jan wrote lighttpd. Ergo, he must be equally disliked. The fact that lighttpd is also used to run YouTube and Wikipedia would surely be irrelevant. Just as the Vuze BitTorrent client being used to shift everything from Linux distros to the CC-licensed music on Jamendo to Vuze’s own commercially-licensed content seems to be irrelevant.

Taking the view of the French music industry to its logical conclusion, the DADVSI copyright law should prohibit all software that isn’t completely proprietary and locked down. The French would be left with the likes of Microsoft’s Internet Information Services for serving HTTP and Kontiki for peer-to-peer. Lovely…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:00:16 +0000

The french… go figure

By: Hydra

Hydra — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:33:46 +0000

Just FYI: If they win their lawsuit, they will request what’s called an exequatur, asking an American court to enforce the French court’s ruling on American soil.

By: Dont mod me

Dont mod me — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:37:01 +0000

@19 I am on that like a cheap suit. I have plenty of cash floating around since I don’t have the conscience to spend it on what I like to enjoy, media, movies, music, what have you.

I am not sure if this was on torrent freak but I refer to this everytime I hear about the industry whining about losing money. http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/Lyle+Lovett-53870.html

I met Lyle a number of times. He is one of the most unselfish artists there are. He played a gig at the wheeler opera house in Aspen, Colorado some years ago. Still does from time to time actually. He was kind of enough to play for free in a cool little local bar called the Howling Wolf(may that place rest in peace) until about 4am. It was one the coolest experiences I have ever had. I will carry it with me forever.

Pay the guy some cash and quit suing the little guys.

By: Roze

Roze — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:47:54 +0000

Given the fact that much of the music is independent, original music, the intent of the record companies is clear: to use copyright in any way whatsoever so that they can shut down independent music. Well, I think it should have been clear already, actually, but this makes it more clear.

Suppose that a lot of people in France decided to drop CDs or whatnot of Soulseek. Now, how many are they going to be willing to fine/send to jail? I think that if people started to distribute Soulseek en masse, then they it might have some impact.

Roze
http://www.10ch.org/

By: jackson

jackson — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:43:14 +0000

Don’t moderate me bro, I am just a little kid.

Js.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:23:47 +0000

I don’t get it… are all of these many programs they’re going after based out of france? Otherwise, why does any of this matter? How’s it different from the idiots sending DMCA’s to the pirate bay?

By: hi

hi — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:43:03 +0000

we should set up like a team of 50 lawyers that a paid on donations from the community. their job would to fight away these industry dipshi**s.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:11:14 +0000

Another long winded and completely pointless post from jacob.

I suppose ot doesn’t matter though since no one will bother reading past the third line.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:09:19 +0000

“to help unsigned and/or independent artists find a place in the ever-growing music industry, in a place where discussion and the creation of music can take place.” – BULL! Don’t get me wrong, I use SS as well, but it is not around for the above reason. It’s pretty safe to say that probably only 1% of the music on there is “unsigned” and independent artists (I’m assuming artists not signed to a “major” label) would probably make up 30%. I guess you can say whatever you want for the “intent” is but the reality is the place is a free for all. I usually use SS when I can’t find albums on the private torrent music sites, private DC hubs or blogs.