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Music is not a loaf of bread, it can’t be “stolen”

Singer/songwriter Jeff Tweedy is part of the growing group of artists that understands that there’s more to music than selling pieces of plastic, and suing your fans.

wilcoIn an interview with Wired Magazine (from a while ago), Tweedy said:

A piece of art is not a loaf of bread. When someone steals a loaf of bread from the store, that’s it. The loaf of bread is gone. When someone downloads a piece of music, it’s just data until the listener puts that music back together with their own ears, their mind, their subjective experience. How they perceive your work changes your work.

Jeff Tweedy is the leadsinger of the popular band Wilco, that won two Grammy’s back in 2005. He doesn’t consider copying and remixing as evil, but as a way to facilitate creativity.

On the official website of the band from Chicago we even see a link to the BitTorrent tracker where Wilco fans actively share high quality recordings.

Treating your audience like thieves is absurd. Anyone who chooses to listen to our music becomes a collaborator. People who look at music as commerce don’t understand that. They are talking about pieces of plastic they want to sell, packages of intellectual property. I’m not interested in selling pieces of plastic.

For those who are interested in the copyright debate, here’s a presentation by Larry Lessig titled “Who owns Culture“. The presentation served as an intro to conversation about p2p and free culture by Jeff Tweedy and Larry Lessig (audio link).

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  • Nebojsa

    Exelent, now only other 192354 bands need to start thinking like this, and problem of music piracy is solved.

  • Yatti

    “collaborator” I like that word…

  • Bardicknowledge

    I’m really torn as a pirate. I want to support bands I like, but I’m poor and want to be able to hear the whole disc before I pay for it. But it’s good to see that some bands don’t view their music as simple a way to make money and would much rather have a loyal fan base, despite that some of them may be pirates.

  • Laura

    Actually, most musicians don’t mind the sharing. It’s the record labels that can’t deal with the money lost.

    that, and since people don’t actually support the artists they love…if everyone went to shows and brought merch/cds then we wouldn’t have this problem at all.

  • al

    wicked sick. yeah, the RIAA needs to shove it.

  • sorry

    them guys aint complaining cos they will be loaded, i get their point and think downloading is cool and stuff but musicians need to get money from somewhere, touring doesnt always cover you

  • DB

    You want to support a band. Then make sure thier venue is sold out next time they roll into town.

    These guys have a great way of looking at downloading music. If everyone thought like this, then there would be no more excuse for crappy music that is generated by corporate entities. A group or individual would become popular cause the music they make is excellent.

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  • DWBjr

    Does this mean I can put up a website allowing people to download all of Jeff Tweedy’s music for free? I don’t understand… is this just lip service or what? Has Jeff Tweedy released all of his music under Creative Common’s license?

  • Kevin

    I’m sure the RIAA will come after you for downloading Wilco songs, but the fact that Jeff takes this stance on the issue and really gets it makes me want to support Wilco even though I’m not nuts about their music.

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  • Marc Light

    For once and for all, we need to ask the music creators what they would like to see in a online music service.

    I want a “Music Collaborator” t-shirt, bumper sticker, hat, etc…

  • bwab

    The “Music Collaborator” t-shirt idea is the super hotness! It should be affiliated with the anti-riaa t-shirts just to empahise the irony that the riaa acts like it supports the artforms of the eardrums, when in fact they are the evil which only desires music to be stagnant enough to put to plastic and profit from. Music by definition is a vibration of sound waves that interacts with it’s enviornment, it is not a static object. I have been releasing music online without drm for ten years. Our small label was mentioned at some point as an riaa supported venture, without any attempts even being made to contact us and ask. We are non-profit on purpose, an effort to avoid the inevitable slowdown the creative process suffers when wrapped into neat target-marked packaging. If you really care about music, stop buying it. Force yourself to ‘make’ some, then give it away.
    Remixes and mashup do count, they are a unique take, and expansion on the idea or theme, which is what afterall the entire process of all knowledge really is, a building process. I suppose we should all stop reading really, lest we discover some idea which we like and want to incororate into our mindsets.

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  • camille

    I agree with them, I’ve watched an interview of a French band who thought the same, they’re indie and they’re happy enough that people listen to their music and discover them. So labels and RIAA propaganda who said that downloading and piracy kills the indie bands are wrong.
    I wish more bands could think like that, see music as an emotion, a feeling not as a piece of plastic
    Dream?

  • Bob

    What a load of crap.

    For a lot of bands, touring is merely a way to promote album sales; unless you’re a mega-band, you’re not going to get rich playing venues. It’s easy to look at a group like Arrowsmith and think that all bands make huge money touring, but speaking as someone who has worked with lots of touring artists, I can tell you that it’s an expensive proposition to take a band on the road and play venues.

    The money is in the songs.

    Second and even more major point:

    Songwriters make their money from royalties which come from album sales and airplay; when people steal songs by downloading and sharing illegally, they’re forcing good songwriters to find a new way to make a living, which in the end affects the quality of music that makes it to market.

    This article is totally bogus.

  • Kapitan

    I don’t buy CDs. At all. I’m so broke it’s not funny :( I have skills but cannot be employed due to prejudice from employers. I use my skills to build my own computers and use them to download free music. Then when I can, I see bands play and they get more of a cut from this than all those CDs I bought back in the past… Funny how no-one gets any more royalties from used CD sales, but they don’t ban shops dealing in exclusively used stock, isn’t it?

  • Casin

    Evans instrumenting implicitly:Semiramis enchantment loathed!failsoft

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    We have just released my debut album as a FREE HQ Mp3 download.

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    Despite all that, we recognise the massive potential the internet and free albums in particular offers. We launched last friday and have already had 1000′s of DL’s all over the world.

    Come over and download for FREE.. it takes 2 minutes to DL because we have a dedicated server.

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