Comments on: Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Wed, 23 May 2012 07:00:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jimbori http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637767 Jimbori Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:54:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637767 Internet 2 is going to shut everything down. Internet 2 is going to shut everything down.

]]> By: Scooby http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637685 Scooby Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:49:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637685 HELLZ YA CHOCO UGG BOOTS FTW HELLZ YA CHOCO UGG BOOTS FTW

]]> By: Scooby http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637684 Scooby Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:48:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637684 Dude I am SOOOO gonna go que up some chocolate Ugg boots on my uTorrent! For some reason I can't stop thinking about them. Dude I am SOOOO gonna go que up some chocolate Ugg boots on my uTorrent! For some reason I can’t stop thinking about them.

]]> By: Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking « Descent Into Darkness http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637656 Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking « Descent Into Darkness Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:37:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637656 [...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking February 1, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments This is really bad business… Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mai... [...] [...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking February 1, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments This is really bad business… Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mai… [...]

]]> By: La net neutrality non impedirà il blocco del traffico BitTorrent http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637587 La net neutrality non impedirà il blocco del traffico BitTorrent Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:34:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637587 [...] al 2008, al tempo della decisione della FCC contro Comcast, sembrava quasi che l’ISP bloccando il traffico BitTorrent, per risolvere gli ingorghi della banda, si [...] [...] al 2008, al tempo della decisione della FCC contro Comcast, sembrava quasi che l’ISP bloccando il traffico BitTorrent, per risolvere gli ingorghi della banda, si [...]

]]> By: Mike K http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637567 Mike K Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:25:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637567 Ernesto Said: "Under the proposed plans, ISPs could simply manage their networks by slowing down connections that use “too many” TCP connections" I have Comcast and this new method began about a year ago when they stopped the previous "Reset connection" method. While BitTorrent is not directly affected, any web traffic is slowed down. This includes talking to the tracker, which uses HTTP. The more TCP connections, the slower it gets. Web traffic is completely blocked when you join a torrent with thousands of users, regardless of how much you restrict the upload or download speed. However, BitTorrent transfers between peers are completely unaffected. I have found that setting the "Max connections" to 50 or less helps for torrents with hundreds peers. (In case you are wondering if my computer or router is at fault, I have been using BitTorrent for many years and this never happened before about a year ago. Also, I have tried multiple clients on both Linux and Windows.) Ernesto Said:

“Under the proposed plans, ISPs could simply manage their networks by slowing down connections that use “too many” TCP connections”

I have Comcast and this new method began about a year ago when they stopped the previous “Reset connection” method.

While BitTorrent is not directly affected, any web traffic is slowed down. This includes talking to the tracker, which uses HTTP.

The more TCP connections, the slower it gets. Web traffic is completely blocked when you join a torrent with thousands of users, regardless of how much you restrict the upload or download speed. However, BitTorrent transfers between peers are completely unaffected.

I have found that setting the “Max connections” to 50 or less helps for torrents with hundreds peers.

(In case you are wondering if my computer or router is at fault, I have been using BitTorrent for many years and this never happened before about a year ago. Also, I have tried multiple clients on both Linux and Windows.)

]]> By: Borderliner http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637504 Borderliner Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:04:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637504 @ 54 / Anon It's called "steganography" and while in theory it's great there are a bunch of problems with it in practice. For starters the overhead, which can be up to 50% or more, depending on the container you use for hiding. In other words - if you have a 100MB file then you have to upload 200+ megs. Main reason why BT is so popular in the first place is that it's protocol overhead is rather small compared to other P2P systems. Secondly it's not hard to determine that something is hidden in an image. Not what is hidden, but the hiding fact itself. There are several studieas about this and if I'm not mistaken then atleast one program out there to automatically check images for hidden data. It's not really hard for ISPs to deploy solutions like that to unencrypted traffic. Thirdly: if you encrypt the RARs there's no point in using hiding at all. Sure, there are a couple of cyberlockers which don't allow crypted RARs, but they're a minority, also most image hosters don't support images larger than a couple of MBs so they're not really usable as RAR hosters. @ 54 / Anon
It’s called “steganography” and while in theory it’s great there are a bunch of problems with it in practice. For starters the overhead, which can be up to 50% or more, depending on the container you use for hiding. In other words – if you have a 100MB file then you have to upload 200+ megs. Main reason why BT is so popular in the first place is that it’s protocol overhead is rather small compared to other P2P systems. Secondly it’s not hard to determine that something is hidden in an image. Not what is hidden, but the hiding fact itself. There are several studieas about this and if I’m not mistaken then atleast one program out there to automatically check images for hidden data. It’s not really hard for ISPs to deploy solutions like that to unencrypted traffic. Thirdly: if you encrypt the RARs there’s no point in using hiding at all. Sure, there are a couple of cyberlockers which don’t allow crypted RARs, but they’re a minority, also most image hosters don’t support images larger than a couple of MBs so they’re not really usable as RAR hosters.

]]> By: linux user http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637466 linux user Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:43:04 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637466 by the way they are just being cheap when they throttle the bandwidth it saves them money electrical power and upgrade time and support costs this includes security its easy to watch a slow network not really a joke but Comcast seems to think so since they do not need to dedicate time to a more open bandwidth so much for technology when it involves money or real effort and the entire internet world has to suffer so that they can control everything over a simple torrent issue which they do not even have any idea wtf they are actually going to damage because there so busy throwing fax copies like moneys throwing shit in the zoo people are just going to find another system of downloading there FREE files by the way they are just being cheap when they throttle the bandwidth it saves them money electrical power and upgrade time and support costs this includes security its easy to watch a slow network not really a joke but Comcast seems to think so since they do not need to dedicate time to a more open bandwidth so much for technology when it involves money or real effort and the entire internet world has to suffer so that they can control everything over a simple torrent issue which they do not even have any idea wtf they are actually going to damage because there so busy throwing fax copies like moneys throwing shit in the zoo people are just going to find another system of downloading there FREE files

]]> By: linux user http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637463 linux user Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:28:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637463 this is so retarded considering the isp throttle has been shoving torrent users around for awhile but it will deny and directly effect Linux because it is a main form of file protocol a lot of important files for the o/s run use torrents run upgrade or install host software locally and to free there own websites bandwidth another words those bloody assholes will b able to impede my and other windows/mac/alternative computer operating systems from functioning properly never mind the downloads can u say lawsuits maybe i want to download upgrades for ubuntu9.10 or maybe i would like to populate a list for the open source freeware and download the necessary programs or drivers to partition or hear my music these things do not infringe on anyone that is perfectly legal money grubbing bastards ....no one even thinks of this??? this is so retarded considering the isp throttle has been shoving torrent users around for awhile but it will deny and directly effect Linux because it is a main form of file protocol a lot of important files for the o/s run use torrents run upgrade or install host software locally and to free there own websites bandwidth another words those bloody assholes will b able to impede my and other windows/mac/alternative computer operating systems from functioning properly never mind the downloads can u say lawsuits maybe i want to download upgrades for ubuntu9.10 or maybe i would like to populate a list for the open source freeware and download the necessary programs or drivers to partition or hear my music these things do not infringe on anyone that is perfectly legal money grubbing bastards ….no one even thinks of this???

]]> By: anonino http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637440 anonino Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:48:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637440 How do you programatically determine unlawful content? How do you programatically determine unlawful content?

]]> By: hiro81 http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637436 hiro81 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:08:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637436 @34 Your Princeton article fails entirely as it assumes downloaders were not rights-holders in the first place. According to the laws of my country (not burdened by a Constitution-breaking DMCA) I am completely within my rights to download copies of media I already own for the purpose of backup or format-shifting. Your cited study disregards these rights and assumes a copyrighted download is automatically illegal. Pro-tip: The DMCA is not the law of the world, no matter how much your MAFiAA wishes it was. @34

Your Princeton article fails entirely as it assumes downloaders were not rights-holders in the first place.

According to the laws of my country (not burdened by a Constitution-breaking DMCA) I am completely within my rights to download copies of media I already own for the purpose of backup or format-shifting. Your cited study disregards these rights and assumes a copyrighted download is automatically illegal.

Pro-tip: The DMCA is not the law of the world, no matter how much your MAFiAA wishes it was.

]]> By: Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking | ZoneZero http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637420 Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking | ZoneZero Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:34:00 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637420 [...] “Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mainstream resulting in planned government interventions. However, unlike the name suggests, Net Neutrality might not stop BitTorrent blocking and could leave us worse off than when this all started.” A good Article about Net Neutrality and BitTorrents [...] [...] “Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mainstream resulting in planned government interventions. However, unlike the name suggests, Net Neutrality might not stop BitTorrent blocking and could leave us worse off than when this all started.” A good Article about Net Neutrality and BitTorrents [...]

]]> By: BIOS http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637419 BIOS Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:08:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637419 That is fucking stupid... So I can get throttled for using 100% of the bandwidth I paid for? If I am not allowed to have a 24/7 download/upload going on... Sell me a package that isn't a fucking lie! Thus far, Verizon hasn't done anything related to throttling my 20/5 but I can tell you that if anything were to get throttled they would owe me several free months or several hundred dollars. That is fucking stupid… So I can get throttled for using 100% of the bandwidth I paid for? If I am not allowed to have a 24/7 download/upload going on… Sell me a package that isn’t a fucking lie! Thus far, Verizon hasn’t done anything related to throttling my 20/5 but I can tell you that if anything were to get throttled they would owe me several free months or several hundred dollars.

]]> By: Thundercross http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637414 Thundercross Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:00:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637414 The FCC is taking the entirely wrong approach to this. This Net Neutrality plan brings a far LESS neutral internet into existence. In the name of preventing the telecoms from dividing the internet into tiers (paid providers vs unpaid providers), it divides the internet into tiers (lawful content sent lawfully vs unlawful content or content sent unlawfully). This is what nobody wants, except for the incumbent media companies who cannot change their business model for the times. The best model for resolving the issue of Net Neutrality is to do what Japan did. It can be accomplished with a much shorter bill, that would remove all incentive of throttling anything. And we'd have faster connections, too. The FCC is taking the entirely wrong approach to this. This Net Neutrality plan brings a far LESS neutral internet into existence. In the name of preventing the telecoms from dividing the internet into tiers (paid providers vs unpaid providers), it divides the internet into tiers (lawful content sent lawfully vs unlawful content or content sent unlawfully). This is what nobody wants, except for the incumbent media companies who cannot change their business model for the times.

The best model for resolving the issue of Net Neutrality is to do what Japan did. It can be accomplished with a much shorter bill, that would remove all incentive of throttling anything. And we’d have faster connections, too.

]]> By: Rboy http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637402 Rboy Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:10:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637402 Never will happen. This would be like the post office opening every letter looking for illegal things or activity. Pirates will adjust and adapt to whatever is thrown at them. They shut down Naptster and Kazaa and they got DDL sites and Torrents with 100 times more sharing. So whatever comes after bit torrent will be bigger badder and faster and more secure then ever so go suck eggs copyright jerkoffs. Never will happen. This would be like the post office opening every letter looking for illegal things or activity.

Pirates will adjust and adapt to whatever is thrown at them. They shut down Naptster and Kazaa and they got DDL sites and Torrents with 100 times more sharing.

So whatever comes after bit torrent will be bigger badder and faster and more secure then ever so go suck eggs copyright jerkoffs.

]]> By: Ben Ben http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637399 Ben Ben Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:31:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637399 "It's all in the fine print." I think this must be one of the most common answers used in these days. You want internet, "Sign this 10 page contract agreement." You want to rent this place, "Sign this 25 page contract agreement ." and so on.... and so on.... Now I know the laws were created to protect us from all these vicious companies but in the end of the day all they manage to do is take more of our rights away. Privacy and freedom of expression no longer exist in this world. Well, unless your own a billion dollar company or are part of the government, then everything you want exists. No point there just contemplating things. “It’s all in the fine print.” I think this must be one of the most common answers used in these days. You want internet, “Sign this 10 page contract agreement.”
You want to rent this place, “Sign this 25 page contract agreement .”
and so on…. and so on….
Now I know the laws were created to protect us from all these vicious companies but in the end of the day all they manage to do is take more of our rights away.
Privacy and freedom of expression no longer exist in this world. Well, unless your own a billion dollar company or are part of the government, then everything you want exists.
No point there just contemplating things.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637397 Anonymous Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:21:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637397 OUR internet cannot be free if someone owns it. P2P the internet. Let's share our internet! OUR internet cannot be free if someone owns it. P2P the internet. Let’s share our internet!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637396 Anonymous Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:16:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637396 Crush the ISP's. They're just faceless corporations capitalizing on the elimination of our freedoms. Crush the ISP’s. They’re just faceless corporations capitalizing on the elimination of our freedoms.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637392 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:42:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637392 It's really all those damn Facebook users clogging up the net. Let's get them off line and let the real users use the net! It’s really all those damn Facebook users clogging up the net. Let’s get them off line and let the real users use the net!

]]> By: Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking - makin's posterous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637378 Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking - makin's posterous Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:28:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637378 [...] Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mainstream resulting in planned government interventions. However, unlike the name suggests, Net Neutrality might not stop BitTorrent blocking and could leave us worse off than when this all started.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/ [...] [...] Ignited by the Comcast fiasco in the US, the concept of Net Neutrality has been brought into the mainstream resulting in planned government interventions. However, unlike the name suggests, Net Neutrality might not stop BitTorrent blocking and could leave us worse off than when this all started.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/ [...]

]]> By: OutstandingInMyField http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637374 OutstandingInMyField Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:45:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637374 Don't taze my torrents bro Don’t taze my torrents bro

]]> By: Cordelia http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637361 Cordelia Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:14:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637361 If I use Socks5 from a proxy, am I sufficiently encrypted to trick deep packet inspection? If I use Socks5 from a proxy, am I sufficiently encrypted to trick deep packet inspection?

]]> By: MakinMo's Tech Blog http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637341 MakinMo's Tech Blog Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:31:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637341 [...] might not stop BitTorrent blocking and could leave us worse off than when this all started.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/ Jan [...] [...] might not stop BitTorrent blocking and could leave us worse off than when this all started.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/ Jan [...]

]]> By: kottonface http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637340 kottonface Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:26:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637340 If the deep packet inspection starts happening...I fear it will signify the beginning of the end. We must fight to keep our internet OURS. NO PRISONERS!!! NO MERCY!!! If the deep packet inspection starts happening…I fear it will signify the beginning of the end. We must fight to keep our internet OURS.

NO PRISONERS!!! NO MERCY!!!

]]> By: Tandy1000 http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637327 Tandy1000 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:26:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637327 AOL called and said that they wanted their dial-up customers back Compuserve was wondering if broadband customers were willing to downgrade their broadband connections to 56k Prodigy online service has a deal that if you by one 28k modem, you can get 10 free. AOL called and said that they wanted their dial-up customers back

Compuserve was wondering if broadband customers were willing to downgrade their broadband connections to 56k

Prodigy online service has a deal that if you by one 28k modem, you can get 10 free.

]]> By: Anon http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637326 Anon Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:22:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637326 A now discontinued piece of software named "Camouflage" had just one function, to hide (wrap) contents within a jpeg file. Software like this could be very useful when hiding/wrapping multivolume rar archives.. I don´t think anyone would have any interest in blocking jpegs on the internet, also rar archives could ofcourse easily be passwordprotected and encrypted within a jpeg-file ! Posting these jpegs on a forum, usenet or other would be easy.. A now discontinued piece of software named “Camouflage” had just one function, to hide (wrap) contents within a jpeg file.

Software like this could be very useful when hiding/wrapping multivolume rar archives.. I don´t think anyone would have any interest in blocking jpegs on the internet, also rar archives could ofcourse easily be passwordprotected and encrypted within a jpeg-file !

Posting these jpegs on a forum, usenet or other would be easy..

]]> By: knux http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637322 knux Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:25:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637322 Yea too bad you completely ignored the part that says they CAN'T deep packet inspect. Seriously? You are acting incredibly paranoid in this article. It is there to block pirates, and let's be honest, that's what your all pissy about. Not the betterment of P2P as a tech but as piracy as a free people. And if legit people get caught up, atleast the FCC seems to give 2 cents, just call them up, tell them what's going on and they'll take care of it, usually fairly promptly. Always have in the past when I had an issue. Yea too bad you completely ignored the part that says they CAN’T deep packet inspect. Seriously? You are acting incredibly paranoid in this article. It is there to block pirates, and let’s be honest, that’s what your all pissy about. Not the betterment of P2P as a tech but as piracy as a free people. And if legit people get caught up, atleast the FCC seems to give 2 cents, just call them up, tell them what’s going on and they’ll take care of it, usually fairly promptly. Always have in the past when I had an issue.

]]> By: Rekrul http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637319 Rekrul Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:07:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637319 The sooner every single internet related program has secure encrypt built-in and enabled as standard, the better. All TCP connections should be encrypted. The sooner every single internet related program has secure encrypt built-in and enabled as standard, the better. All TCP connections should be encrypted.

]]> By: Comcast Fcc Come To Blows Over « Do I Want That! http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637313 Comcast Fcc Come To Blows Over « Do I Want That! Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:54:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637313 [...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking – TorrentFreak [...] [...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking – TorrentFreak [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637309 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:19:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637309 The simple fact is that p2p has been the main driving force behind ever faster broadband take p2p out of the equation and we only need I meg or less to do everything else , so half the cost or less for broadband then, who are the losers going to be?. The simple fact is that p2p has been the main driving force behind ever faster broadband take p2p out of the equation and we only need I meg or less to do everything else , so half the cost or less for broadband then, who are the losers going to be?.

]]> By: Comcast Fcc Come To Blows Over | Technology News NOW! http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637307 Comcast Fcc Come To Blows Over | Technology News NOW! Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:09:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637307 [...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking – TorrentFreak   1   blows, comcast, come, fcc, over, to   No Comments » [...] [...] Net Neutrality Wont Prevent BitTorrent Blocking – TorrentFreak   1   blows, comcast, come, fcc, over, to   No Comments » [...]

]]> By: Gabriel http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637306 Gabriel Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:09:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637306 Anyone with half a brain will realize this article is wrong. FCC says ISPs can block ILLEGAL FILE-SHARING. FCC says ISPs must not block Bit-Torrent, since all data has to be treated is the same. So, unless ISPs can detect if the data being transfered over BT is illegal, they can't do SHIT. Anyone with half a brain will realize this article is wrong.

FCC says ISPs can block ILLEGAL FILE-SHARING.

FCC says ISPs must not block Bit-Torrent, since all data has to be treated is the same.

So, unless ISPs can detect if the data being transfered over BT is illegal, they can’t do SHIT.

]]> By: Peter http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637305 Peter Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:03:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637305 "Congestion" has ONE cause : ISP's overselling their available bandwidth . In my country it's a criminal offence to sell something you can't provide .. “Congestion” has ONE cause :
ISP’s overselling their available bandwidth . In my country it’s a criminal offence to sell something you can’t provide ..

]]> By: anon http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637301 anon Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:40:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637301 lol hah, yeah, deploy the billion dollar supercomputers to make sure no1 is downloading anything on bittorrent.. i hope you die -.- of starvation i mean.. and if you do manage to implement the super computer networks, good luck.. cuz im 99% sure some hackers wud love to steal them.. not physiclly, just hack all your countries networks with them.. HA! lol hah, yeah, deploy the billion dollar supercomputers to make sure no1 is downloading anything on bittorrent.. i hope you die -.- of starvation i mean.. and if you do manage to implement the super computer networks, good luck.. cuz im 99% sure some hackers wud love to steal them.. not physiclly, just hack all your countries networks with them.. HA!

]]> By: Cujo http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637300 Cujo Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:29:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637300 it's all in the code i think Bill said that ;) it’s all in the code

i think Bill said that ;)

]]> By: Rabbit80 http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637295 Rabbit80 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:39:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637295 I have a solution - and its only 3 letters long... VPN Lets see 'em block that! I have a solution – and its only 3 letters long…

VPN

Lets see ‘em block that!

]]> By: Dia http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637294 Dia Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:18:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637294 Hopefully capitalism will work this on out in favor of BT users. Hopefully capitalism will work this on out in favor of BT users.

]]> By: http://warez.dy.fi http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637291 http://warez.dy.fi Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:48:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637291 They cant touch neutrality, it makes unfail advantage to some ISPs They cant touch neutrality, it makes unfail advantage to some ISPs

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]]> By: Tim http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637282 Tim Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:03:16 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637282 There goes all the mmorpgs what most people dont realize that all mmo's use bittorren in one way or another There goes all the mmorpgs what most people dont realize that all mmo’s use bittorren in one way or another

]]> By: adyshor http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637274 adyshor Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:34:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637274 @40 +1 @40
+1

]]> By: job http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637272 job Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:15:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637272 Go shove that CHOCOLATE UGG BOOTS up your arse Go shove that CHOCOLATE UGG BOOTS up your arse

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]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637268 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:44:35 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637268 @33 That study fails to take a few different things into account, such as: -The fact that most legal torrents use their own trackers (Jamendo and Linux distros do this, for example) and do not rely on DHT, which leads to serious underrepresentation of legal content -The sample size is rather low @33

That study fails to take a few different things into account, such as:

-The fact that most legal torrents use their own trackers (Jamendo and Linux distros do this, for example) and do not rely on DHT, which leads to serious underrepresentation of legal content
-The sample size is rather low

]]> By: =b0|)Y http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637263 =b0|)Y Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:54:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637263 scratch that, CHOCOLATE UGG BOOTS ZOMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! scratch that, CHOCOLATE UGG BOOTS ZOMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: =b0|)Y http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637262 =b0|)Y Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:52:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637262 If i had a timeshare apartment with 1 week slots, i could sell 52 slots to customers. but i (the scamster) realize that on average most customers only stay half a week. so i sell ANOTHER 52 slots. when there is congestion, blame it on the customer and 'how they use the apt' ISP's are doing the very same, it's outrageous. If i had a timeshare apartment with 1 week slots, i could sell 52 slots to customers.
but i (the scamster) realize that on average most customers only stay half a week.
so i sell ANOTHER 52 slots.
when there is congestion, blame it on the customer and ‘how they use the apt’
ISP’s are doing the very same, it’s outrageous.

]]> By: Chocolate Ugg Boots http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637259 Chocolate Ugg Boots Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:48:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637259 wpuser01001@gmail.com Lucie Jones changes to keep the body warm and Ugg boots to keep your feet as comfortable leaving the X-Factor house in November 2009. Learn where to buy cheap Ugg boots visit our website and contact us for more information.Cheap Ugg Boots are the most popular thought in the world today, but many people, including a pair of Ugg Boots discount is unrealistic to consider UGG boots luxurious apartment. Wrong, we are now on sale UGG Classic at cheap wholesale prices, quality wpuser01001@gmail.com
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]]> By: Benni http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637257 Benni Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:23:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637257 BT throttle the HELL out of Bittorrent, albeit betweenthe hours of 19:00 and 00:00, they still say it is to help people who use less bandwidth???? go figure ??? BT throttle the HELL out of Bittorrent, albeit betweenthe hours of 19:00 and 00:00, they still say it is to help people who use less bandwidth???? go figure ???

]]> By: g http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637255 g Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:58:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637255 HEY TORRENTFREAK Why don't you talk about this? Princeton University study shows that 99% of available torrents lead to infringing content: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/census-files-available-bittorrent HEY TORRENTFREAK

Why don’t you talk about this?

Princeton University study shows that 99% of available torrents lead to infringing content:

http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/census-files-available-bittorrent

]]> By: Dangerous http://torrentfreak.com/net-neutrality-wont-prevent-bittorrent-blocking-10-01-29/#comment-637254 Dangerous Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:52:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=21085#comment-637254 Oh I am so Pissed! Oh I am so Pissed and I am the head of an armed gang! The tree of liberty need refreshing! Oooh! This is so so dangerous! Oh I am so Pissed! Oh I am so Pissed and I am the head of an armed gang!

The tree of liberty need refreshing!

Oooh! This is so so dangerous!

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