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		<title>By: Allot Employee</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-263789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allot Employee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please dont kill us, they forced us to do it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please dont kill us, they forced us to do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mac0252</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-206047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mac0252]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this means your banking information is no longer safe. this violates federal laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this means your banking information is no longer safe. this violates federal laws.</p>
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		<title>By: cecik</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-132669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cecik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[quote comment=&quot;52897&quot;]Instead, my policy is to allow nearly unlimited torrent speed during non-peak hours (midnight till 7am) and throtle to 35k up during the day.  Is this type of policy something that the P2P community can live with?[/quote]

It sounds reasonable. Even better should be limit such way overall traffic of each user. Maybe only shape &quot;interactive&quot; traffic (by increasing priority).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="52897"]Instead, my policy is to allow nearly unlimited torrent speed during non-peak hours (midnight till 7am) and throtle to 35k up during the day.  Is this type of policy something that the P2P community can live with?[/quote]</p>
<p>It sounds reasonable. Even better should be limit such way overall traffic of each user. Maybe only shape &#8220;interactive&#8221; traffic (by increasing priority).</p>
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		<title>By: Company Cracks BitTorrent Protocol Encryption and Introduces Tracker Whitelists &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-93272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Company Cracks BitTorrent Protocol Encryption and Introduces Tracker Whitelists &#124; TorrentFreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] more and more companies claim that they have found a way to detect encrypted BitTorrent traffic. The [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more and more companies claim that they have found a way to detect encrypted BitTorrent traffic. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: smallsouthernisp</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-52897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[smallsouthernisp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a small broadband provider in the southern states.  Might I say that while I think some policies out there (5kb/s anyone) are just plain wrong, ISPs HAVE to throttle your traffic in order to survive.  Most people act as if the 30-50 dollars they pay for broadband entitles them to unlimited bandwidth 24hours a day 7 days a week.  The reality is that businesses pay sometimes 5 times as much as you for the bandwidth you get precisely because they are buying no/low oversubscription.  If every home user (or even a tenth) started using torrent all the time, every single ISP would have to triple or quadruple their rates or just go bankrupt.  Trust me, you wont get your torrents if all the isps go bankrupt.  Instead, my policy is to allow nearly unlimited torrent speed during non-peak hours (midnight till 7am) and throtle to 35k up during the day.  Is this type of policy something that the P2P community can live with?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a small broadband provider in the southern states.  Might I say that while I think some policies out there (5kb/s anyone) are just plain wrong, ISPs HAVE to throttle your traffic in order to survive.  Most people act as if the 30-50 dollars they pay for broadband entitles them to unlimited bandwidth 24hours a day 7 days a week.  The reality is that businesses pay sometimes 5 times as much as you for the bandwidth you get precisely because they are buying no/low oversubscription.  If every home user (or even a tenth) started using torrent all the time, every single ISP would have to triple or quadruple their rates or just go bankrupt.  Trust me, you wont get your torrents if all the isps go bankrupt.  Instead, my policy is to allow nearly unlimited torrent speed during non-peak hours (midnight till 7am) and throtle to 35k up during the day.  Is this type of policy something that the P2P community can live with?</p>
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		<title>By: randomshinichi</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-33236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randomshinichi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this the only shaper that can detect encrypted BT connections? Because I think even Streamyx in Malaysia has blocked it. Last month they reduced it to 5kb/s. This month, it&#039;s 0. And that was before the Taiwanese earthquake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the only shaper that can detect encrypted BT connections? Because I think even Streamyx in Malaysia has blocked it. Last month they reduced it to 5kb/s. This month, it&#8217;s 0. And that was before the Taiwanese earthquake.</p>
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		<title>By: ext</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-29943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ext]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pipex, 24 hours 20k, they probably have this NetEnforcer, shall we kill those NetEnforcer developers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pipex, 24 hours 20k, they probably have this NetEnforcer, shall we kill those NetEnforcer developers?</p>
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		<title>By: Cogeco victim McCool</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cogeco victim McCool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah Cogeco is definitely using this, and targetting only a few specific uers. The problem manifests as an inability to upload faster than about 10kbps on average, where we should be able to do 70kbps upload. And with BT, if you dont upload, nobody sends you data, so download speed sucks too. The main thing is the upload though. 

This traffic shaper tool they are using delays the ACK&#039;s coming back from the other computer so it forces the TCP stream to slow down. It has no problem identifying encrypted BT traffic versus plain either, and makes them both suck at 10kbps upload. 

Cogeco won&#039;t yet admit to doing any shaping of any kind ... but they are. And I&#039;m not the only one experiencing this, there are a number (at least 5 of us) that have posted on DSLr about the issue.

Meanwhile my other ISP, a DSL provider, works properly. The same torrents quickly max the upload out at over 70kbps when I plug the router into the DSL modem instead of the cable modem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Cogeco is definitely using this, and targetting only a few specific uers. The problem manifests as an inability to upload faster than about 10kbps on average, where we should be able to do 70kbps upload. And with BT, if you dont upload, nobody sends you data, so download speed sucks too. The main thing is the upload though. </p>
<p>This traffic shaper tool they are using delays the ACK&#8217;s coming back from the other computer so it forces the TCP stream to slow down. It has no problem identifying encrypted BT traffic versus plain either, and makes them both suck at 10kbps upload. </p>
<p>Cogeco won&#8217;t yet admit to doing any shaping of any kind &#8230; but they are. And I&#8217;m not the only one experiencing this, there are a number (at least 5 of us) that have posted on DSLr about the issue.</p>
<p>Meanwhile my other ISP, a DSL provider, works properly. The same torrents quickly max the upload out at over 70kbps when I plug the router into the DSL modem instead of the cable modem.</p>
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		<title>By: Robby</title>
		<link>/netenforcer-throttles-encrypted-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-15075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My isp jumped on the bandwagon..

if they are implmenting this new toy i think i will have to throw a brick through someones window.

come on bittorrent developers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My isp jumped on the bandwagon..</p>
<p>if they are implmenting this new toy i think i will have to throw a brick through someones window.</p>
<p>come on bittorrent developers!</p>
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		<title>By: donb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[donb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the makers of bit torrent clients will surely defeat this soon enough.

more important, the ISPs that try to stop up ONLY bit torrent will end up with other users that are unhappy (can you say AOL suks?) hehe

Users in UK are getting more and more of this, but here in the states its not as much as a problem.

donb ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the makers of bit torrent clients will surely defeat this soon enough.</p>
<p>more important, the ISPs that try to stop up ONLY bit torrent will end up with other users that are unhappy (can you say AOL suks?) hehe</p>
<p>Users in UK are getting more and more of this, but here in the states its not as much as a problem.</p>
<p>donb </p>
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