It’s an easy way to get £500 for sending out one letter. They get your IP, claim you have downloaded some porn, send the letter out, threaten to take you to court where you will then be looked down upon for downloading the porn by everyone.

There are people and parents out there who would be too embarrassed to go to court and others thinking they did it, or they may be afraid their kids downloaded it and pay the fine.

Also note the court they take you too is a civil court, but they get your IP by submitted a criminal case then abandoning it then, having obtained your IP and address, start a civil case against you!
This should be totally illegal!

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/34981

My position seems more than justified.

This presumption of innocence does not actually appear in Magna Carta.
Rather it is that a presumption of innocence exists until such time as the burden of proof or a jury of their peers decides otherwise.

This presumption has in fact been enshrined in law in some countries but others take it as read

The EU has put it in one of the conventions so in that respect all EU countries have it in their law as all EU countries abide by this convention.

The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): “Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law”. This convention has been adopted by treaty and is binding on all Council of Europe members. Currently (and in any foreseeable expansion of the EU) every country member of the European Union is also member to the Council of Europe, so this stands for EU members as a matter of course. Nevertheless, this assertion is iterated verbatim in Article 48 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.

Maybe BT try to be the voice for it’s paying customers rather than give the ACS:Law crooks innocent peoples details. But in my case it’s too late, I’m leaving them and I hope a lot of people leave them. BT will try hard to win back customers but it will be for nothing. Hope all the other ISP learn from this.

…that is unless you know better

Yes I know better ;)

On a general note isnt it funny how the Uk Govt want to impose another stealth tax on uk terrestrial phone line subscribers to pay for the new high speed network, this seems to me to be yet another way of making us pay for something that we wont own a peice of and will benefit only the big media organisations that so far havent put their hands in their pockets for anything.

A bit confusing really.
(after seeing mixed comments)

Is the UK ISP talktalk good or evil?

It’s good.

Is the UK ISP talktalk good or evil?

Because the government want to upgrade the national infrastructure to, as they like to call it; “super-fast broadband”, but the services that create demand for this kind of product has for a long while been unauthorised file-sharing, and the people who could otherwise provide services that these “super-fast” connections are suited are the major media companies who would like to offer their product, but are as yet not willing to engage in the kind of investment necessary to roll out an entirely new national network infrastructure. Investors in general are apprehensive about investing because of the feeling that it could prove difficult to get a decent return because of the current free-flow of media outside of sanctioned channels.

So as part of the plan to introduce “super-fast broadband”, they’re being driven to stamp out unauthorised file-sharing to make way for legitimate services. They want people to subscribe to these media services instead.

Do they really expect broadband users with 100 Mbps to read emails, browse the internet, go on Facebook, make some posts on forums, download a few programs and watch a few videos on iPlayer and YouTube?

Do they seriously think people will need 100 Mbps for any other reason other than peer-to-peer filesharing?

All of the above can be accomplished with just 1 Mbps speed.

You can sign up for their new Talk Talk Pro account though, still throttled but with no cap.

Just be aware of that if you decide to change your current ISP.

Thanks for the info. I’ll look into linkideo.

How would I go about setting up OpenVPN with linkideo?

How would you go about securing yourself from the defects identified in PPTP as mentioned by chevron using a firewall rule? Say with Norton and McAfee?

Thanks in advance.

O2 offer a (very good) fixed broadband service as well as mobile broadband. None of the O2 customers on this thread was referring to mobile broadband.

Oh Good!

Law owner Andrew Crossley?

Hum? We know who to go after now.

Brace for impact Crosslete!

Everywhere one reads that filesharing needs OpenVPN as it is somehow better, and that PPTP is defective / bad / old.

Pure crap, of course, when the security defects identified in PPTP (potential DNS leaks [100% fixable by a simple firewall rule, btw] and man-in-middle issues) are irrelevant to P2P usage.

All that most P2P users want is an offshore IP address and data transfer to be hidden from their ISP. For that, PPTP is absolutely fine.

If you want to bypass government censors or download kiddieporn, THAT is the time to insist on OpenVPN.

We download many GB per day and have had no trouble at all. Speeds slow at peak hours – but that is all.

I had no cap when I was with Tiscali, got 6.5MB down on an 8MB connection (OK). There were no maximum download caps.

If they have that I will change ISP on principle.. Download limits are cr&p and not acceptable to me.

I am on the 8MB down package, including TV which I never watch, hehe. Anyone knows?

Sounds like you know what you’re talking about. Is openvpn free or how do you know which vpn are open and which aren’t? Which is the best one to go for in the UK?

Any help and advice will be highly appreciated.

I have joined TalkTalk today. Let see if they are any better than BE. Time will tell.

Well, for a start, im on a 40gb limit, I break it every month nearly, even clocking up 100gb nearly, what did I get, a 5 pound fine. Figured im not doing them much harm as its 4 quid for 80GB. And agressive traffic shaping? bullshit, all they do is filter the official bittorrent ports, change the port and you dont even have to secure the connection to get max line speed, in the middle of the day.