I think a lot of us feel the same way. Being from the U.K, its always been about seeing shows as soon as possible, until I can buy them on dvd, not about money. The very fact bit torrent works shows the possibilities online. Worrying about licensing issues online is a bit silly, but the way to change this is for content providers to have global licenses instead, then apply per region advertising to each DL country. You’ll find some websites do this when you visit them.

If only Nielsen would track this stuff fairly, and perhaps take online popularity into account, next to regional tv viewing, then maybe less tv shows would be cancelled.

lets all take a moment to thank the socially retarded individuals who cap these shows for us! I hope they’re getting paid somewhere along the line…

Comparing numbers 1,049,000 and 6,268,969 this is wrong. It’s either _500%_ higher than or 600% _of_ Nielsens estimates.

Just FYI. =)

The networks need to wake up and really see how people are using the internet for their TV fix. Instead of them trying to tell us how we should use it, let us tell them. They must adapt in this new market place, not us. Internet gives us the power not them.

Look at Hulu. They have been screwing people with their own system for viewing the shows online. Why? The people who watch will even sit and watch the commercials at the start. They just want to control the app they watch it with. The people just want to watch their shows. So instead of making people happy, they screw them for control and the thought that they are losing money.

Also even though in Canada we ALSO carry the main US stations (ABC, CBC, NBC and FOX) Hulu will not allow canadians to watch. Why? We still buy the same products that your commercials advertise for, I could watch the show on my local FREE network who also carries the show. But no. Its all a power trip.

So until the networks and hollywood smarten up. I will be getting torrents of my TV shows.

Sadly, the shows that people torrent (Sarah Conner, Stargates, Arrested Development, Chuck and many others) still rely on neilson to get their ratings. Therefore they have low raitings and get cancelled. Great shows, plenty of fans wanting to watch, but a system where the people in charge have no clue what the real world does to see their programs.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

To a degree I guess you are right maybe it gets bad, but once it does people will find a way that will suit them and their needs. Society is a complex system and dynamic it’s nothing like the entertainment industry, look at the example of the software industry they battle piracy in the 80′s too and were successful to a point and it was getting harder and harder to have illegal software then something amazing happened people got together to develop stuff that they didn’t have the money to pay for it and one guy showed how to use the law to protect the freedoms of the people(Thank you Stallman) and a kid(Thank you Torvalds) living with his parents working alone impacted the OS market 10 years latter this things were born out of necessity to restore balance in the system, which benefited not only society but business everywhere and I believe that the same thing will happen with arts and that is why I don’t concern myself very much. People will start doing things on their own and create new models. It’s great that the industry go postal on society and make fantastic claims that no one can prove because people get tired and start making things for themselves, and this is the turning point when people start making their on things and turning their backs to those who hurt them. It will happen if the industry continue just wait and see.

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THIS IS VERY TRUE

Short, sweet, funny – I like it XD

“Just ask why do people from every coutry move here for a better life.”
XD
If I wanted to go the better life I would move to a place like Sweden or Japan. The only upside to America is your gun laws. Still, awesome internets + hot chicks > guns.

Well our generation right now relays on entertainment as the primary source of escape and stress reliever. Now if that industry crashes, or lets just say all illegal bit torrent downloading is 100% banned and anyone who does uses will get easily tracked and sentenced 10 years. So people would stop because the internet is being monitored by governments and with highly elite tracking software. So lets say that happened, meaning people will ether pay for content more, or just have a lot less entertainment in their life. So those people who cannot afford any paid entertainment content, they would just get hobbies like reading which i consider a much cheaper source of entertainment, or exercising, or who knows some crazies wont be smart enough to replace mainstream paid entertainment [tv, movies, video games, music, which can be very expensive] to look into other ways for entertainment and start going postal of having no way in escaping reality for a short time in a day to relieve stress. All types of crimes would go up, [educated guess of 10%-15%].

Without Channel BT we would still not be able to watch this series since we don’t subscribe to Foxtel here (which is a complete waste of money).

So no one should be surprised why Australians are such big downloaders of media content.

So usually their studies are extremely biased when they’re related to piracy, and they rarely publish their methodologies or any significant data about the studies, just the results they want.

PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PwC) and GfK are probably the best example. They produce a good amount of the piracy studies that are published in the press. Everytime I researched about the funding of those studies I found they were financed by intellectual property lobbies.

This article isn’t even about that. I agree with Aussies downloading. If a show airs up to a year later than other countries then what do they expect.

The main problem is distribution companies and broadcast companies. Sometimes as a media company it is hard to find a tv channel willing to broadcast your show unless you can prove that it makes money in other countries first, then they’re willing to buy the program. Stupid really. But business model that seems to work.

Would you cancel your cable if you could watch your favorite shows on the internet. Of course

All all the companies who publish stats like this, I have the most faith in Neilsen, because they primarily rely on data obtained from ISP’s to calculate their totals, where as others rely on panels or plugins alone.

In Australia for memory, Neilsen gets data from Telstra’s Bigpond, our largest ISP, along with a range of smaller players, so there shouldn’t be anywhere near this gap.

Unless they aren’t being given all the data to begin within. Given the iiNet trial, and the interest the record and movie industries have in this sort of data, perhaps some ISP’s in Australia who supply data to Neilsen are removing torrent related data from their lists before hand? I have no evidence in that regard, but it would make sense: while most ISP’s are supportive of iiNet in the current Federal Court case, none of them wants to be the next company to be sued either. Not handing over data (even anonymous data) could simply be protection on a just in case basis. It’s not inconceivable that the record industry could obtain the said data from Neilsen directly (be it through court order), bypassing the ISPs, a risk worth avoiding.

Yes, people use computers, mobile phones, satellite dishes, communication networks, Ipods, etc in conjunction with pirated files. No, that doesn’t mean all of those things would stop existing if it weren’t for piracy. But that’s the premise those numbers are based on.

i wanna know the number of us using private trackers

That was my bad.

For awhile I was downloading bsg and heroes due to the lag between them airing in the states and in New Zealand (same with alot of japanese media).

I know of many people who download stuff simply because its not available here.

The movie situation has improved somewhat though and I find myself visiting theatres more because the movies come out about the same time, sometimes earlier than elsewhere.

If we click on a tv .torrent file and get a page return saying the torrent has been removed.

Isn’t it logical to go another site – like EZTV’s direct site for example. Hence reasonable to come to the conclusion mini’s traffic may not be going up?

Now the Mini Nova has commercial interest and money is now involved what makes you think they can’t play with the numbers?

As an American, we know we can’t do anything even with violent uproars, the police will just shoot tear gas and rubber bullets and get us all to behave. The young people of America, are not as conservative as you might think. However the people who inhabit this country have been born into an oppressive system where corporations rule everything. Paradoxically, individual freedom means a lot to Americans, but the individual means nothing to America. We are not numb to punishment, we are restrained by our individualism. If collective individualism results in a gathering of like-minded people working towards a cause that is looked down upon by the corporate interests, the group will get slammed by the media, broken up by police and sued to high heaven. We don’t just sit back and take this sort of punishment, nor are we numb to it. We are simply in a place where there’s nothing we can do to stop it. The systems are already in place, and any group looking to reform these systems will be destroyed.

This is whether the stuff is free or if they’ve paid for it. It’s up to the RIAA/MPAA to figure out a way to please everyone.

Put a stop to trying to control us, and perhaps then we’ll have a truce and a peaceful co-existance and maybe we’ll start buying things again. Don’t call us thieves and don’t extort from old ladies, disabled people and college students, and maybe then even more of us will be more than happy to spend money on music and movies again. Don’t bribe judges and politicians to further exacerbate relations between you and your customers because you’re just going to destroy yourself.

Do car manufacturers sue their customers for lending out their car? Do they place limitations on where you can go or what you can do with it? No. If they did, no one would buy their cars. The analogy is the same for movies and music.

Be good to the hand that feeds you. So far they’ve been biting and ripping off our fingers.

I also download shows that aren’t even aired in the US.

That sucks arse big time.

Nonetheless, SBS is _my_ channel of choice but DAMN Top Gear Australia hasn’t hit the groove yet (except for the challenges — they’re a hoot XD ), which is why I torrent the original series.

Though I will see a movie at the cinema if they have a worldwide release, the content owners have blocked the release of time-shifting products like TiVo for television shows for years, pushing fans like me towards torrent sites where I can get access to these shows.

BitTorrent provides me with the product I want when I want it – until there’s a legitimate source that lets me what the UK and US tv shows whenever I have the time, I’ll continue to use it. just like every other Australian sick of local broadcasters mucking about with the schedule.

??? You do realize that 95% of businesses use legal software, and they are what businesses are built upon. Not casual user.

You do realize that who foots the bill in the end is 100% the costumer and not the casual business

Besides I think the article is being ironic with the claims that the entertaiment industry makes about the end of civilization as we know it LoL