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		<title>By: Free Culture News &#187; Nine Inch Nails sets up BitTorrent tracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free Culture News &#187; Nine Inch Nails sets up BitTorrent tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Les p&#8217;tites vites culturelles &#124; La terre va trembler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les p&#8217;tites vites culturelles &#124; La terre va trembler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nine Inch Nails continue d&#8217;innover dans la distribution numérique de sa musique en contrôlant son propre &#8220;tracker&#8221; BitTorrent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: in.cog.nito</title>
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		<dc:creator>in.cog.nito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAJOR props to NIN and their NIN&#124;JA tracker. Thank you for supporting the future.</description>
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		<title>By: Masklinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masklinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Awesome. I hope they receive some donations for sharing some of their new music.

The goal is not &quot;donations&quot;, it&#039;s to bring people to the tour, and they&#039;ll probably release a NIN&#124;JA live album after that.

&gt; My only criticism is he kind of steered people into paying for his first major digital release, Ghosts I-IV, when it was released under a Creative Commons license (and hence legally obtainable for free).

I don&#039;t get it. He released the whole album under C-C, released the first part on the trackers himself and let people do what they wanted after that. How&#039;s this a problem?

&gt; But whatever, the point is he made serious, serious money (over a million is my understanding) from this model. 

That&#039;s a bit of an understatement: Ghosts I-IV grossed $1.6 million *over the first week*, with almost half that being the Ultra Deluxe EP (2500 copies at $300 each, sold out in 3 days).

&gt; I mean normally a band doesn’t own their music but the label and RIAA do…

NiN&#039;s contract with their label ran out after Year Zero, which is something Reznor was waiting for (and he clearly said it). Then he started experimenting. NiN is currently independent and self-produced (and will more than likely stay that way).

&gt; I wonder how they are licensing it

I don&#039;t know for NIN&#124;JA (didn&#039;t find any information), Ghosts I-IV was released under a creative commons license (Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike), and so was The Slip

&gt; Trent understands direct marketing well… if done correctly, this approach offers plenty of scope for future sales (tickets to shows/ t-shirts, autographs and other non-torrent memorabillia). He understands that e-mails are digital currency.

They don&#039;t use them (and it&#039;s specified clearly on the website), the emails are exclusively to send the download links. Ghosts and The Slip worked the same, never got any other mail from NiN until I subscribed to the newsletter, and even the newsletter is *very low* traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Awesome. I hope they receive some donations for sharing some of their new music.</p>
<p>The goal is not &#8220;donations&#8221;, it&#8217;s to bring people to the tour, and they&#8217;ll probably release a NIN|JA live album after that.</p>
<p>&gt; My only criticism is he kind of steered people into paying for his first major digital release, Ghosts I-IV, when it was released under a Creative Commons license (and hence legally obtainable for free).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it. He released the whole album under C-C, released the first part on the trackers himself and let people do what they wanted after that. How&#8217;s this a problem?</p>
<p>&gt; But whatever, the point is he made serious, serious money (over a million is my understanding) from this model. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit of an understatement: Ghosts I-IV grossed $1.6 million *over the first week*, with almost half that being the Ultra Deluxe EP (2500 copies at $300 each, sold out in 3 days).</p>
<p>&gt; I mean normally a band doesn’t own their music but the label and RIAA do…</p>
<p>NiN&#8217;s contract with their label ran out after Year Zero, which is something Reznor was waiting for (and he clearly said it). Then he started experimenting. NiN is currently independent and self-produced (and will more than likely stay that way).</p>
<p>&gt; I wonder how they are licensing it</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for NIN|JA (didn&#8217;t find any information), Ghosts I-IV was released under a creative commons license (Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike), and so was The Slip</p>
<p>&gt; Trent understands direct marketing well… if done correctly, this approach offers plenty of scope for future sales (tickets to shows/ t-shirts, autographs and other non-torrent memorabillia). He understands that e-mails are digital currency.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t use them (and it&#8217;s specified clearly on the website), the emails are exclusively to send the download links. Ghosts and The Slip worked the same, never got any other mail from NiN until I subscribed to the newsletter, and even the newsletter is *very low* traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Abren un tracker de BitTorrent para regalar un EP Nine Inch Nails, Jane’s Addiction y Street Sweeper &#171; ¡La Trapaleta es lo de Hoy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abren un tracker de BitTorrent para regalar un EP Nine Inch Nails, Jane’s Addiction y Street Sweeper &#171; ¡La Trapaleta es lo de Hoy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fue lo que Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, le dijo a TorrentFreak: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN son [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fue lo que Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, le dijo a TorrentFreak: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN son [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay NIN!</description>
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		<title>By: Nine Inch Nails, Jane&#8217;s Addiction y Street Sweeper abren un tracker de BitTorrent para regalar un EP - ALT1040</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nine Inch Nails, Jane&#8217;s Addiction y Street Sweeper abren un tracker de BitTorrent para regalar un EP - ALT1040</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fue lo que Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, le dijo a TorrentFreak: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN son [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fue lo que Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, le dijo a TorrentFreak: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN son [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Music Ally &#124; Blog Archive &#187; Nine Inch Nails distributing lossless promo tracks via BitTorrent</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/nin-launches-bittorrent-tracker-for-new-release-090320/#comment-542637</link>
		<dc:creator>Music Ally &#124; Blog Archive &#187; Nine Inch Nails distributing lossless promo tracks via BitTorrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you can find the MP3 tracks on the band&#8217;s own site, but lossless versions are being distributed via BitTorrent, apparently to ensure the server doesn&#8217;t fall over, as it reportedly did when they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great!thanks NINJA!</description>
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		<title>By: Nine Inch Nails, Jane’s Addiction y Street Sweeper abren un tracker de BitTorrent para regalar un EP : mundotapatio.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nine Inch Nails, Jane’s Addiction y Street Sweeper abren un tracker de BitTorrent para regalar un EP : mundotapatio.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fue lo que Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, le dijo a TorrentFreak: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN son [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fue lo que Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, le dijo a TorrentFreak: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN son [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NIN/JA: Nine Inch Nails, Jane&#8217;s Addiction y Street Sweeper para todos &#124; Estereofonica.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/nin-launches-bittorrent-tracker-for-new-release-090320/#comment-542317</link>
		<dc:creator>NIN/JA: Nine Inch Nails, Jane&#8217;s Addiction y Street Sweeper para todos &#124; Estereofonica.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] esencia del grupo y lo justifica Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, quien en entrevista para TorrentFreak dijo: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] esencia del grupo y lo justifica Rob Sheridan, Director de Arte del grupo, quien en entrevista para TorrentFreak dijo: Nosotros usamos torrents nosotros mismos, y sabemos que la mayoría de los fanáticos de NIN [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rockband startet Torrentracker, Regierung überfordert &#171; 11k2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rockband startet Torrentracker, Regierung überfordert &#171; 11k2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] einzige Weg, diese unhaltbare Situation zu verändern, ist Öffentlichkeit. So wie hier, im 11k2. (torrentfreak, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] einzige Weg, diese unhaltbare Situation zu verändern, ist Öffentlichkeit. So wie hier, im 11k2. (torrentfreak, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Davis</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/nin-launches-bittorrent-tracker-for-new-release-090320/#comment-542188</link>
		<dc:creator>John Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, another BitTorrent tracker! Just cant ever have enough of them!

RT
www.online-privacy.pro.tc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, another BitTorrent tracker! Just cant ever have enough of them!</p>
<p>RT<br />
<a href="http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc" rel="nofollow">http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cultura pirata &#8212; Dios Ameba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cultura pirata &#8212; Dios Ameba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] de nuestros seguidores están familiarizados con la tendencia de compartir archivos”, le dijo Rob Sheridan, director de arte de Nine Inch Nails, al portal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] de nuestros seguidores están familiarizados con la tendencia de compartir archivos”, le dijo Rob Sheridan, director de arte de Nine Inch Nails, al portal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: StormCrow</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/nin-launches-bittorrent-tracker-for-new-release-090320/#comment-542163</link>
		<dc:creator>StormCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it and seeding as much as I can, though bad weather here is wreaking havoc with my internet. For folks wanting to know about the license, here&#039;s a copy-paste quote from the 
.pdf that comes with the album

&quot;this album is licensed under a creative commons attribution-noncommercial
share alike license. more information: www.creativecommons.org&quot;


Sweet!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it and seeding as much as I can, though bad weather here is wreaking havoc with my internet. For folks wanting to know about the license, here&#8217;s a copy-paste quote from the<br />
.pdf that comes with the album</p>
<p>&#8220;this album is licensed under a creative commons attribution-noncommercial<br />
share alike license. more information: <a href="http://www.creativecommons.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.creativecommons.org</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Sweet!!!</p>
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		<title>By: stiltner</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always been a huge fan of NiN, and Reznor was very much a tech savy person years and years ago.

He&#039;s basically a hard rocking geek, and we love him for it.

Keep making the great music for the fans.  He knows he&#039;s gonna sell his fair share of music because fans are dedicated to him, to also reach out to them and offer them an alternative, is not only impressive, but very influential.  

Not to mention, if they&#039;re using their tracker, they can keep track of how many do download in relation to album sales.  I&#039;m guessing this is the way Reznor is going to show that BT releases do not affect album sales like the major labels want to claim they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always been a huge fan of NiN, and Reznor was very much a tech savy person years and years ago.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s basically a hard rocking geek, and we love him for it.</p>
<p>Keep making the great music for the fans.  He knows he&#8217;s gonna sell his fair share of music because fans are dedicated to him, to also reach out to them and offer them an alternative, is not only impressive, but very influential.  </p>
<p>Not to mention, if they&#8217;re using their tracker, they can keep track of how many do download in relation to album sales.  I&#8217;m guessing this is the way Reznor is going to show that BT releases do not affect album sales like the major labels want to claim they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Role_Model_</title>
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		<dc:creator>Role_Model_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frigin. Sweet.</description>
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		<title>By: sumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Welshie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welshie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The official website requires people to submit their email address in order to get the links to the DRM-free downloads. It’s well worth it though.&quot;

Trent understands direct marketing well... if done correctly, this approach offers plenty of scope for future sales (tickets to shows/ t-shirts, autographs and other non-torrent memorabillia).  He understands that e-mails are digital currency.

Excellent idea.  

I might recommend though that they collect social network id&#039;s as well... it&#039;s the &#039;new&#039; e-mail!

EG: If I were a NIN fan and had downloaded the new single from the official site, imagine my delight when I see a friend request from Trent (or someone representing him) asking my opinion on it?  They could use this direct contact method to promote their &#039;gear&#039; to me and I would be happy to be a part of it.

Wowsers!!!

&quot;Bono!!! You watching this?&quot;

@ Kevin: Well said.  This comment made me chuckle, as I was reading through the book &#039;U2 by U2&#039; last night...

Well said Kevin, but this is a message that ALL artists could learn from.  Some of them should definately &#039;dip their toes&#039; into this distribution model, methinks!

BTW, I don&#039;t think Bono was the problem, it was that idiot of a manager (greedy git!) mouthing off about &#039;evil&#039; pirates.

One final thought... by doing this, Trent is able to &#039;lure&#039; his fans from using sites such as TPB (bless &#039;em... good luck boys.. FTW!).  Isn&#039;t it amazing that the record companies, the RIAA, MPAA, etc can&#039;t find a way to do this, but Trent has?  LOL!

God, I love this site... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The official website requires people to submit their email address in order to get the links to the DRM-free downloads. It’s well worth it though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trent understands direct marketing well&#8230; if done correctly, this approach offers plenty of scope for future sales (tickets to shows/ t-shirts, autographs and other non-torrent memorabillia).  He understands that e-mails are digital currency.</p>
<p>Excellent idea.  </p>
<p>I might recommend though that they collect social network id&#8217;s as well&#8230; it&#8217;s the &#8216;new&#8217; e-mail!</p>
<p>EG: If I were a NIN fan and had downloaded the new single from the official site, imagine my delight when I see a friend request from Trent (or someone representing him) asking my opinion on it?  They could use this direct contact method to promote their &#8216;gear&#8217; to me and I would be happy to be a part of it.</p>
<p>Wowsers!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Bono!!! You watching this?&#8221;</p>
<p>@ Kevin: Well said.  This comment made me chuckle, as I was reading through the book &#8216;U2 by U2&#8242; last night&#8230;</p>
<p>Well said Kevin, but this is a message that ALL artists could learn from.  Some of them should definately &#8216;dip their toes&#8217; into this distribution model, methinks!</p>
<p>BTW, I don&#8217;t think Bono was the problem, it was that idiot of a manager (greedy git!) mouthing off about &#8216;evil&#8217; pirates.</p>
<p>One final thought&#8230; by doing this, Trent is able to &#8216;lure&#8217; his fans from using sites such as TPB (bless &#8216;em&#8230; good luck boys.. FTW!).  Isn&#8217;t it amazing that the record companies, the RIAA, MPAA, etc can&#8217;t find a way to do this, but Trent has?  LOL!</p>
<p>God, I love this site&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Turbis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turbis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks NIN!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks NIN!! :D</p>
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