Comments on: NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:50:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | Horror, Weirdness and Random Rantings http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-519504 FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | Horror, Weirdness and Random Rantings Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:04:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-519504 [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough [...] [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough [...]

]]> By: FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | InstantIdiocy http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-518899 FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | InstantIdiocy Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:30:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-518899 [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough buzz. That’s [...] [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough buzz. That’s [...]

]]> By: FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-518873 FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | TorrentFreak Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:30:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-518873 [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough [...] [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough [...]

]]> By: FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-518874 FrostWire P2P Client Starts Artist Promotion | TorrentFreak Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:30:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-518874 [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough [...] [...] While this is a potentially viable business model for established artists like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails, the small or just-starting artist can find it hard to generate a big enough [...]

]]> By: NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists « World News http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-509563 NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists « World News Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:40:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-509563 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: mikael christiansen http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-509027 mikael christiansen Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-509027 great article http://www.stripdanmark.dk/ great article http://www.stripdanmark.dk/

]]> By: Vektor http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508937 Vektor Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:51:01 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508937 It was an example of something where "artists" cannot come with something original but they want to come with something anyway just to make more money. There are thousands of other examples of "business models" like this. As long as music will be seen as a business there will always be new businessmen who will come with anything just to make thousands of dollars. Investments made in something like this should be investments in a hobby not in a business. It was an example of something where “artists” cannot come with something original but they want to come with something anyway just to make more money. There are thousands of other examples of “business models” like this. As long as music will be seen as a business there will always be new businessmen who will come with anything just to make thousands of dollars.
Investments made in something like this should be investments in a hobby not in a business.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508666 Anonymous Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:33:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508666 vektor, you are an idiot. and because you keep bringing up the blair witch project for no reason, you are also very strange. is it cold in your parents basement? vektor, you are an idiot. and because you keep bringing up the blair witch project for no reason, you are also very strange.

is it cold in your parents basement?

]]> By: Vektor http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508645 Vektor Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:44:04 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508645 Making music should be a hobby not a business. How much of the money we pay for music gets invested to make more music? Don't say they have to buy equipment because the equipment they buy does not expire and does not get eaten. It remains there to be used again. They have bills to pay for their hobby and so does everyone else. Does anyone expect his money back for the time wasted, electricity bills and the cost of a DVD that has a blairwitch 1 clone "missing tapes that were found" on it? No, because it's a hobby. "Artists" who make 1 k of albums a year invest in marketing not in making more music. I'll not be surprised if they'll start making albums in the "missing audio tapes that were found" style just to fix their album count to make more money. They should get a real job. RIAA exists because we all accepted to pay too much for music. Making music should be a hobby not a business. How much of the money we pay for music gets invested to make more music? Don’t say they have to buy equipment because the equipment they buy does not expire and does not get eaten. It remains there to be used again. They have bills to pay for their hobby and so does everyone else. Does anyone expect his money back for the time wasted, electricity bills and the cost of a DVD that has a blairwitch 1 clone “missing tapes that were found” on it? No, because it’s a hobby.
“Artists” who make 1 k of albums a year invest in marketing not in making more music. I’ll not be surprised if they’ll start making albums in the “missing audio tapes that were found” style just to fix their album count to make more money. They should get a real job.
RIAA exists because we all accepted to pay too much for music.

]]> By: Slogger http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508612 Slogger Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:08:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508612 I've been using jamendo for over a year and until now I didn't even realize it had a donations button.... So at least part of the problem on jamendo might be visibility and the fact that it's not oriented towards collecting donations considering that I didn't even realize you could donate. I’ve been using jamendo for over a year and until now I didn’t even realize it had a donations button….
So at least part of the problem on jamendo might be visibility and the fact that it’s not oriented towards collecting donations considering that I didn’t even realize you could donate.

]]> By: links for 2008-10-27 at DeStructUred Blog http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508562 links for 2008-10-27 at DeStructUred Blog Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:08:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508562 [...] NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists | TorrentFreak (tags: distribution digital business Music bittorrent) [...] [...] NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists | TorrentFreak (tags: distribution digital business Music bittorrent) [...]

]]> By: TPile » Blog Archive » Once Again, Give It Away And Pray Isn’t A Business Model http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508554 TPile » Blog Archive » Once Again, Give It Away And Pray Isn’t A Business Model Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:46:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508554 [...] which is usually quite good and reliable. This one starts out with a title announcing that Nine Inch Nails’ Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists. That’s a questionable assertion from the very start, because Trent Reznor and Nine Inch [...] [...] which is usually quite good and reliable. This one starts out with a title announcing that Nine Inch Nails’ Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists. That’s a questionable assertion from the very start, because Trent Reznor and Nine Inch [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508551 Anonymous Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508551 Trent Reznor couldn't have donated $5000 because there was a £100 donation 'cap' Trent Reznor couldn’t have donated $5000 because there was a £100 donation ‘cap’

]]> By: Bit Torrent Marketing: The Good The Bad and The Ugly | Gray Hat Zone http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508540 Bit Torrent Marketing: The Good The Bad and The Ugly | Gray Hat Zone Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:00:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508540 [...] It’s important to realize though , that this success story relied hugely on the already significant fanbase that NIN has. Creating music and simply putting it on BitTorrent won’t make you a lot of money [...] [...] It’s important to realize though , that this success story relied hugely on the already significant fanbase that NIN has. Creating music and simply putting it on BitTorrent won’t make you a lot of money [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508535 Anonymous Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:31:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508535 TechDirt apparently doesn't agree. http://techdirt.com/articles/20081026/1928532642.shtml TechDirt apparently doesn’t agree.

http://techdirt.com/articles/20081026/1928532642.shtml

]]> By: Kultura 2.0 » Archiwum bloga » Rozdawanie muzyki nie dla ka?dego? http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508515 Kultura 2.0 » Archiwum bloga » Rozdawanie muzyki nie dla ka?dego? Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:53:50 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508515 [...] TorrentFreak opublikowa? analiz? op?acalno?ci udost?pniania muzyki w sieci w zamian za dobrowolne datki fanów. Z tekstu wynika, [...] [...] TorrentFreak opublikowa? analiz? op?acalno?ci udost?pniania muzyki w sieci w zamian za dobrowolne datki fanów. Z tekstu wynika, [...]

]]> By: Mr Goo http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508476 Mr Goo Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:15:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508476 When I was young there was a lot of bands giving music away for free. You just sent them a blank tape and a self addressed envelope, then a week later you got the music. I think the Instant Automatons were the first, but within a few months there was hundreds of them. When I was young there was a lot of bands giving music away for free. You just sent them a blank tape and a self addressed envelope, then a week later you got the music.

I think the Instant Automatons were the first, but within a few months there was hundreds of them.

]]> By: PolkaRobot | Blog Archiv » Lesezeichen vom 27-10-2008 http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508467 PolkaRobot | Blog Archiv » Lesezeichen vom 27-10-2008 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:36:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508467 [...] NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists "This year, several established bands have decided to give away their music for free, while giving fans the option to donate whatever they seem fit. For Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails it was a great success since they made more money from the donation model than they would have otherwise. However, it seems that this doesn’t hold for less established artists." (Tags: via:mento.info music polkarobot) [...] [...] NiN’s Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists "This year, several established bands have decided to give away their music for free, while giving fans the option to donate whatever they seem fit. For Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails it was a great success since they made more money from the donation model than they would have otherwise. However, it seems that this doesn’t hold for less established artists." (Tags: via:mento.info music polkarobot) [...]

]]> By: Tech Scoop - Hot Technology Gossip » Once Again, Give It Away And Pray Isn’t A Business Model http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508444 Tech Scoop - Hot Technology Gossip » Once Again, Give It Away And Pray Isn’t A Business Model Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:01:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508444 [...] which is usually quite good and reliable. This one starts out with a title announcing that Nine Inch Nails' Donation Model Doesn't Work for Most Artists. That's a questionable assertion from the very start, because Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails, for [...] [...] which is usually quite good and reliable. This one starts out with a title announcing that Nine Inch Nails’ Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists. That’s a questionable assertion from the very start, because Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails, for [...]

]]> By: Nowinki » Once Again, Give It Away And Pray Isn’t A Business Model http://torrentfreak.com/nins-donation-model-doesnt-work-for-most-artists-081025/#comment-508443 Nowinki » Once Again, Give It Away And Pray Isn’t A Business Model Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:00:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=5956#comment-508443 [...] which is usually quite good and reliable. This one starts out with a title announcing that Nine Inch Nails' Donation Model Doesn't Work for Most Artists. That's a questionable assertion from the very start, because Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails, for [...] [...] which is usually quite good and reliable. This one starts out with a title announcing that Nine Inch Nails’ Donation Model Doesn’t Work for Most Artists. That’s a questionable assertion from the very start, because Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails, for [...]

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