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		<title>By: Oli</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-528219</link>
		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do own a multitude of products and treat myself to a multitude of services I don&#039;t really need but I am grateful for what I have, unlike moaning Actors/Movie people, which was my point... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do own a multitude of products and treat myself to a multitude of services I don&#039;t really need but I am grateful for what I have, unlike moaning Actors/Movie people, which was my point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fr33tard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-528215</link>
		<dc:creator>fr33tard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you&#039;re a communist, yeah, there&#039;s a huge difference.  
 
chances are you yourself own a multitude of products and treat yourself to a multitude of services you don&#039;t really need and the money you used to procure them could just as easily have gone to someone without food, a home, clean water, or medical care. 
 
double edged swords are sharp aren&#039;t they? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you&#039;re a communist, yeah, there&#039;s a huge difference.  </p>
<p>chances are you yourself own a multitude of products and treat yourself to a multitude of services you don&#039;t really need and the money you used to procure them could just as easily have gone to someone without food, a home, clean water, or medical care. </p>
<p>double edged swords are sharp aren&#039;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-528181</link>
		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference between money they need and money they want. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between money they need and money they want.</p>
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		<title>By: freetard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-528105</link>
		<dc:creator>freetard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Artists &amp; Film makers have no excuse for not getting money, they can do live gigs/cinema.&quot; 
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theater box office accounts for less than 18% of the film industry revenue. so your plan is for them to just willingly give away the vast majority of their business? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Artists &amp; Film makers have no excuse for not getting money, they can do live gigs/cinema.&quot;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; </p>
<p>theater box office accounts for less than 18% of the film industry revenue. so your plan is for them to just willingly give away the vast majority of their business?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Tester</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-528056</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Tester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Record Industry = Not needed and dying. 
 
Artists &amp; Film makers have no excuse for not getting money, they can do live gigs/cinema. 
 
Stop trying to get an easy buck. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Record Industry = Not needed and dying. </p>
<p>Artists &amp; Film makers have no excuse for not getting money, they can do live gigs/cinema. </p>
<p>Stop trying to get an easy buck.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr33tard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527998</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr33tard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It certainly does offer something better. It offers free distribution and audience.&quot; 
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which amounts to exactly &quot;jack&quot; and &quot;shit&quot; if it doesn&#039;t keep a roof over my head and food on my table. 
 
&quot;The Pirate Bay does not earn profits for themselves.&quot; 
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you don&#039;t have any proof of this. the reason you have no proof of this is because the pirate bay refuse to make their finances transparent. and the only reason anyone has for not making their finances transparent is because they have something to hide. 
 
...none of which matters since the reality, whichever end of the spectrum it may reside, will soon be revealed during the trial. 
 
&quot;A right is a right only when it does not interfere with other rights, &quot; 
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therein lies the dilemma. your supposed &quot;right&quot; to distribute my hard work on a massive, unlimited scale with complete strangers and without the smallest trifle of compensation for your greedy consumption most definitely infringes upon my rights as a creator. bit of an impasse there.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It certainly does offer something better. It offers free distribution and audience.&quot;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; </p>
<p>which amounts to exactly &quot;jack&quot; and &quot;shit&quot; if it doesn&#039;t keep a roof over my head and food on my table. </p>
<p>&quot;The Pirate Bay does not earn profits for themselves.&quot;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- </p>
<p>you don&#039;t have any proof of this. the reason you have no proof of this is because the pirate bay refuse to make their finances transparent. and the only reason anyone has for not making their finances transparent is because they have something to hide. </p>
<p>&#8230;none of which matters since the reality, whichever end of the spectrum it may reside, will soon be revealed during the trial. </p>
<p>&quot;A right is a right only when it does not interfere with other rights, &quot;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; </p>
<p>therein lies the dilemma. your supposed &quot;right&quot; to distribute my hard work on a massive, unlimited scale with complete strangers and without the smallest trifle of compensation for your greedy consumption most definitely infringes upon my rights as a creator. bit of an impasse there.</p>
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		<title>By: freetard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527997</link>
		<dc:creator>freetard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you want me to prove if copyright has ever benefited a content creator? 
 
lolololololol </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you want me to prove if copyright has ever benefited a content creator? </p>
<p>lolololololol</p>
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		<title>By: rhf</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527967</link>
		<dc:creator>rhf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, all I can say is that I&#039;m glad that this hasn&#039;t been followed up, although, the British Government does like to lie on a regular basis. For example, if you&#039;ve been watching the UK news recently about the new airport terminal expansion at Heathrow, the controversy of them not sure whether to do the runway or not. It&#039;s all a visage, a deception, a friend of mine is currently getting his final security checks done to go and work on this new runway/terminal project. I&#039;ll reiterate this, The British government lies on a regular basis, so don&#039;t be so sure the storm is over yet. 
 
This to be created subsidiary of OfCom is a joke, it&#039;ll be a new amalgamation of the IFPI/MPAA/RIAA/FAST, where the good ol&#039; government will squeeze more money out of us to fund feck knows what. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, all I can say is that I&#039;m glad that this hasn&#039;t been followed up, although, the British Government does like to lie on a regular basis. For example, if you&#039;ve been watching the UK news recently about the new airport terminal expansion at Heathrow, the controversy of them not sure whether to do the runway or not. It&#039;s all a visage, a deception, a friend of mine is currently getting his final security checks done to go and work on this new runway/terminal project. I&#039;ll reiterate this, The British government lies on a regular basis, so don&#039;t be so sure the storm is over yet. </p>
<p>This to be created subsidiary of OfCom is a joke, it&#039;ll be a new amalgamation of the IFPI/MPAA/RIAA/FAST, where the good ol&#039; government will squeeze more money out of us to fund feck knows what.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527888</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A right is a right only when it does not interfere with other rights, which is why there is no right to take away other people&#039;s rights. Thus, there is no &quot;creator rights to take away the citizen&#039;s rights to share their own property.&quot; The only &quot;right&quot; that file-sharing usurps is the &quot;right&quot; to take away the citizen&#039;s rights to share their own property, which, of course, is not a right at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A right is a right only when it does not interfere with other rights, which is why there is no right to take away other people&#039;s rights. Thus, there is no &quot;creator rights to take away the citizen&#039;s rights to share their own property.&quot; The only &quot;right&quot; that file-sharing usurps is the &quot;right&quot; to take away the citizen&#039;s rights to share their own property, which, of course, is not a right at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527887</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It certainly does offer something better. It offers free distribution and audience. Those two are most important. The Pirate Bay certainly has done much good - unlike the industry, which steals from the artists all the time, The Pirate Bay does not earn profits for themselves. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly does offer something better. It offers free distribution and audience. Those two are most important. The Pirate Bay certainly has done much good &#8211; unlike the industry, which steals from the artists all the time, The Pirate Bay does not earn profits for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: UK Backs Away from Over-Reaching Anti-Piracy Legislation &#171; MyMediaMusings</title>
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		<dc:creator>UK Backs Away from Over-Reaching Anti-Piracy Legislation &#171; MyMediaMusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No &#8216;3 Strikes&#8217; Disconnection for UK Pirates (torrentfreak.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: UK Backs Away from Over-Reaching Anti-Piracy Legislation &#124; BigBook.eu</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527845</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Backs Away from Over-Reaching Anti-Piracy Legislation &#124; BigBook.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No &#8216;3 Strikes&#8217; Disconnection for UK Pirates (torrentfreak.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Widget</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527798</link>
		<dc:creator>Widget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a solution: all you just just register for these stupid IntenseDebate accounts and stop pretending you aren&#039;t impersonating each other =) </description>
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		<title>By: fr33tard</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527779</link>
		<dc:creator>fr33tard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say &quot;content creator&#039;s work&quot; you&#039;re ignoring that they don&#039;t get much at all. The worst case scenario is that the artist becomes more popular and they can charge more for bigger live shows. I haven&#039;t heard of a single case where the money from a lawsuit against someone who shared music was given to the original author(s). 
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these are good points, succinctly put and i thank you for making them. you immediately stand out from the rest of the hormonal teens around here... 
 
while i agree that the record and film industries shortchange their respective content creators, my point is i don&#039;t see the pirate community offering anything better. 7-14 cents an album does add up after a while. i know better than anyone here how the studios (in particular) do not care about their content creators. my particular profession though integral to the creation of a movie is grossly underpaid in relation to other above the line talent such as actors, producers and directors. however, again, i do not see the pirate community offering anything better. at least the studios (or labels) pay SOMETHING, meager though it may be, it is better than nothing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say &quot;content creator&#039;s work&quot; you&#039;re ignoring that they don&#039;t get much at all. The worst case scenario is that the artist becomes more popular and they can charge more for bigger live shows. I haven&#039;t heard of a single case where the money from a lawsuit against someone who shared music was given to the original author(s).<br />
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<p>these are good points, succinctly put and i thank you for making them. you immediately stand out from the rest of the hormonal teens around here&#8230; </p>
<p>while i agree that the record and film industries shortchange their respective content creators, my point is i don&#039;t see the pirate community offering anything better. 7-14 cents an album does add up after a while. i know better than anyone here how the studios (in particular) do not care about their content creators. my particular profession though integral to the creation of a movie is grossly underpaid in relation to other above the line talent such as actors, producers and directors. however, again, i do not see the pirate community offering anything better. at least the studios (or labels) pay SOMETHING, meager though it may be, it is better than nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Widget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Widget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The creator doesn&#039;t have any rights though, they all belong to the industry. If I made a copy of a Slipknot album, I wouldn&#039;t be hurting the band themselves, they&#039;re hardly losing any money (I could download 10 CDs and mail them the money for 1 directly and they&#039;d be getting around the same amount).  
 
The &quot;problem&quot; these days is that record labels are simply becoming unneeded.. Quite a few artists are more than capable of recording their own music, and if they can&#039;t it&#039;s not all that expensive to rent out a recording studio (though some big labels might have you think otherwise). 
 
When you say &quot;content creator&#039;s work&quot; you&#039;re ignoring that they don&#039;t get much at all. The worst case scenario is that the artist becomes more popular and they can charge more for bigger live shows. I haven&#039;t heard of a single case where the money from a lawsuit against someone who shared music was given to the original author(s). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The creator doesn&#039;t have any rights though, they all belong to the industry. If I made a copy of a Slipknot album, I wouldn&#039;t be hurting the band themselves, they&#039;re hardly losing any money (I could download 10 CDs and mail them the money for 1 directly and they&#039;d be getting around the same amount).  </p>
<p>The &quot;problem&quot; these days is that record labels are simply becoming unneeded.. Quite a few artists are more than capable of recording their own music, and if they can&#039;t it&#039;s not all that expensive to rent out a recording studio (though some big labels might have you think otherwise). </p>
<p>When you say &quot;content creator&#039;s work&quot; you&#039;re ignoring that they don&#039;t get much at all. The worst case scenario is that the artist becomes more popular and they can charge more for bigger live shows. I haven&#039;t heard of a single case where the money from a lawsuit against someone who shared music was given to the original author(s).</p>
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		<title>By: BenJones</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527758</link>
		<dc:creator>BenJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to point out, the people doing those jobs don&#039;t expect to be paid for their work the next pay period, let alone 50 years or more later. If I want to have any income in any particular year, I expect to have to work during that year. I don&#039;t expect to be paid for today, for the work I did in 2000 and 2001 (which was for a TV company). If I owned the copyright of that work though, I suddenly should? Think about your answer carefully. 
 
btw, as I said to roze, I&#039;ve changed the name on all your comments to match  each other, under your usual nick of &#039;freetard&#039; - it makes it easier to track who says what. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to point out, the people doing those jobs don&#039;t expect to be paid for their work the next pay period, let alone 50 years or more later. If I want to have any income in any particular year, I expect to have to work during that year. I don&#039;t expect to be paid for today, for the work I did in 2000 and 2001 (which was for a TV company). If I owned the copyright of that work though, I suddenly should? Think about your answer carefully. </p>
<p>btw, as I said to roze, I&#039;ve changed the name on all your comments to match  each other, under your usual nick of &#039;freetard&#039; &#8211; it makes it easier to track who says what.</p>
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		<title>By: FLB (aka freetard)</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527788</link>
		<dc:creator>FLB (aka freetard)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roze, this comment is particularly ironic and hilarious given the rest of your spam in this thread... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roze, this comment is particularly ironic and hilarious given the rest of your spam in this thread&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Care to cite any law that actually uses the word &quot;intellectual property&quot;? </description>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527730</link>
		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;and not a single one of them successful without a long lineage of label backing (radiohead/NIN).&lt;/i&gt; 
Then you must be living in a cave, because there are plenty of them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and not a single one of them successful without a long lineage of label backing (radiohead/NIN).</i><br />
Then you must be living in a cave, because there are plenty of them.</p>
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		<title>By: BenJones</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/no-3-strikes-disconnection-for-uk-pirates-090126/#comment-527755</link>
		<dc:creator>BenJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psst, Roze - you know we can tell when you use blank accounts to agree with yourself. It flags it up for us. Spamming the comments will just get you banned. 
 
I&#039;ll edit in your name to all your comments, just so we know who they&#039;re from. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst, Roze &#8211; you know we can tell when you use blank accounts to agree with yourself. It flags it up for us. Spamming the comments will just get you banned. </p>
<p>I&#39;ll edit in your name to all your comments, just so we know who they&#39;re from.</p>
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