I dont give 2 shits about whos first, I can wait for the goddamn DVD to officialy come out, where it will then be ripped by countless others. Sceners are useless. (Except for game crackers).

Grow the fuck up and get a life faggots.”

What this person doesn’t realize is that the pirated version of Microsoft Office he is running is probably reverse engineered by people from the scene. Without the scene, there wouldn’t be any pirated programs. I agree that it’s pretty useless to race each other for movies, same goes for programs. However, reverse engineering is, unless what most of you realize, a lot of work. You need to know what you are doing, or you’ll never crack it. So, at least some kudos to sceners.

I don’t agree with DDoSing a random p2p tracker though. Thats the wrong way to get across the message!

Only groups writing working cracks, keygens, and validators have earned respect, along with the groups that have been in business since before P2P (RNS etc).

Oh yeah, NIN Ghosts, brought to you by P2P, not scene.

That’s terribly stupid to say. It’s only most of the pre-release stuff that is from the scene. Most other stuff isn’t.

“Where would you get your cracked Crysis from if there was no scene?”

I don’t play Crysis, I don’t care :) People who crack it deserve respect anyway, but not people who try to act like elite sceners by saying that everything on P2P is scene are not worthy of respect.

When was the last time you cracked a copy protection like Securom?
You can’t, that’s the point. You’ll have to wait for a real scener to do the work for you!

I hope scene groups will stop releasing any games and software for a few months. P2P would dry out immediately.
Where would you get your cracked Crysis from if there was no scene?

enjoy their wealthy lifestyle with.

Since it won’t hold up, let them and let norbits say fuck off to the “hakcers” who appreantly say that p2p is bad.

FUCK YOU MORRADi

Pre releases are mostly from the scene, but most stuff on P2P is not from the scene. A P2Per can record a TV show just as well as a scener – possibly even better, because they don’t have to worry about being first.

“I still prefer P2P and eventually all the releases come from the scene and end up on P2P so what’s the big deal?”

most popular scene releases are on P2P within minutes :)

” IMHO those guys do have a point and are playing fair. The issued a warning first.

I’m not from the scene but I learned to admire their hard work and discipline. These guys are underground heroes.

We torrenters are a passing fad and a noisy waste of space with no goals. :(”

Oh now I hates myself. Thanks a lot.

Thank-You for the new sig (minus the lame link). Now my old one is totally cancelled.

Since there are no statistics about this I would assume that there are at most a couple thousand members of “the scene” at any time. Enthusiasts that have the time, money and dedication to run something like that. Everyone else is excluded. It took me months to gain enough trust to do little stuff for them so you can’t tell me there are millions of sceners doing this every day.

And since it’s harder to get into the depths of the scene than into a lesbian bar wearing a shirt “Fuck You Bitch” the scene is pretty much a pre-release group with allures. They do some nice work alright but if you do work that other people can’t benefit from that’s basically useless. I don’t care if a couple dozen people can get stuff from their private servers pretty quickly if P2P does the same thing for much more people. I still prefer P2P and eventually all the releases come from the scene and end up on P2P so what’s the big deal?

They can’t feel like criminal masterminds anymore. So it gets boring and they hate that.