1. When you buy a movie/cd/vinyl you are not buying a piece of plastic you are buying the right to listen to or view the music or movie contained in that ‘plastic’ packaging.
Having over the years bought many LPs made from poor quality recycled vinyl, original movies recorded on cheap VHS tape and bought CDs that we were told would last forever. I suggest therefore that I have a right to obtain free of charge from wherever I can ‘clean’ (digital) updates of music and movies I have already purchased. Oink was an excellent source for many of the more obscure 1960s and 1970s music already in my collection and also for many no longer available elsewhere.

2. Avoiding Music and Movie business hype.
Having listened many times to the man with the deep voice telling me to go buy/see the latest comedy/adventure/blockbuster and been sadly disappointed that I have wasted my money on a load of crap. I can now dl a reasonable copy, watch it and then if I enjoy it I can go buy it. Many of my DVDs and CDs in my collection are as a result of this.

3. I don’t have to listen to the radio and the inane ramblings of DJs.
I could dl music via sites like Oink check it out and if I like it go buy it. Many of my CDs and movies I would not have bought had I not downloaded them first

Maybe when the record and movie industry’s massive piles of cash have dwindled enough for them to see over them to the real world they may begin to understand the meaning of the word ‘progress’.

These are the same police that were asking Mr. Ellis newbie-level questions after his arrest? These are the same authorities who handed the server IP to the IFPI/BPI to put up a threatening substitute home page, something that was certainly not legal since no charges had been issued and the warrant and seizure was for investigation. The police are a joke, a bunch of fools playing in an area way outside of their expertise.

They did accomplish their objective (BPI/IFPI): OiNK was shut down, almost certainly forever.

And according to articles and posts I recall from the weeks following the takedown, Mr. Ellis indicated that he was released on his own recognizance after a few hours of question. (No bail posted, just signature and agreement to appear as required.)

invite? …plz?

Also encrypt your data With TrueCrypt so the police can’t find what your downloading, and always hide your pirated shit.

If you don’t wanna goto prison, anytime you feel you might have been traced erase your computer immediately.

I use a pirated version of Active Killdisk, and Dans Boot and Nuke disks to erase my tracks.

Erase Those Tracks! Erase Those Tracks! Erase Those Tracks![/quote]

why hide something you do if it isn’t wrong?