OiNK Database Didn’t ‘Self Destruct’, Wasn’t Encrypted But Users Safe?
Written by enigmax on October 25, 2007Following the raid at OiNK, many of the 180,000 members are very concerned about what’s happening with their details. The rumor: The OiNK database was encrypted and self-destructed. The truth: It wasn’t and it didn’t but ex-users still might be safe. In the meantime, OiNK got fired from his job.
Yesterday, in the wake of the OiNK takedown, we made a report about possible action against Norwegian BitTorrent trackers. In it we revealed that a tipoff suggested that the OiNK database had been equipped with a ’self-destruct’ mechanism and was also encrypted.
‘OiNK’ himself participated in a short Q&A and the truth is that this is not the case. Here is a rundown of the salient points:
The raid was completely unexpected and came with no warning at all but steps had already been taken to protect the users. Although there was no ’self-destruct’ or encryption according to OiNK, “the logs we store aren’t enough to incriminate users.” This will come as a huge relief to ex-members of OiNK.
A Cleveland Police spokesman told The Telegraph: “It is too early to tell if we will go after individuals, it all depends on what we find.”
OiNK is accused of conspiracy to defraud and copyright infringements with police questioning OiNK for hours after which he was eventually released. It became apparent that the police had limited technical knowledge which, according to OiNK “made the interview quite amusing.”
OiNK’s father - who was also dragged into this, is fine - although the police took his laptop.
There was an implication that a backup of the site may exist, although this is unconfirmed and there is no news yet that the forums will be restored for the purposes of music discussion. Additionally, it’s unclear if OiNK remains the owner of the OiNK.CD domain.
Sites have been cropping up claiming to collect donations for legal defense but according to OiNK there aren’t any that potential donators should feel comfortable donating to right now.
Certain changes had been made to the OiNK site and IRC channel in recent weeks security-wise and there was a suggestion that this may have been because a raid was expected. OiNK has denied this and confirmed these changes were a coincidence.
In echoes of what happened to Alexander Hanff (admin of the BitTorrent tracker DVDR-Core) Alan Ellis aka OiNK has been fired from his IT Consultant job following the raid but has refused to elaborate on what grounds his employer - Virgin Media in Stockton-on-Tees - chose to dismiss him.
It’s hugely commendable that OiNK has taken the time to come out and give the community timely facts. Alan told The Daily Telegraph: “I haven’t done anything wrong. I don’t believe my website breaks the law. They don’t understand how it works.”
Stay Tuned
Update: Seems like someone involved in the takedown left an administrative message on the OiNK site (thanks for the tips DaanRiver and R10T):
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sorry for the bad english i`m from Hungary :D
[quote comment="195914"]Very refreshing to know we’re safe from those bastards, even if they probably wouldn’t go after anyone anyways.
I am curious as to how exactly there isn’t enough to incriminate us, yet still keep track of ratios and whatnot.[/quote]
thats what i want to know.
Confirming that this was posted by some sort of IFPI or police agent, the message on Oink was generated with.. Microsoft Word.
same happend to elitetorrents.org.. It was quite a another big site which was taken down by the FBI. It was in a period while i was playing GTA:VC. So about 2-3 years ago.
That page also was made from Word (or maybe Frontpage)
apparently Cary Sherman was just on CNN saying that they planned to file ’several thousand’ lawsuits and that they were planning “shock and awe” against users
oh what a mess this is !
l think l only need to worry if you
uploaded an EB or sum shiz!
kB (kilobyte)
MB (megabyte)
GB (gigabyte)
TB (terabyte)
PB (petabyte)
EB (exabyte)
ZB (zettabyte)
YB (yottabyte)
l really don’t kno but l think even if you uploaded a 3mb mp3 or a wav
then its the same az a GB ! l think l am confuzed or ?
[quote comment="195987"]apparently Cary Sherman was just on CNN saying that they planned to file ’several thousand’ lawsuits and that they were planning “shock and awe” against users[/quote]
Party’s over, entitlement bitches!
[quote comment="195987"]apparently Cary Sherman was just on CNN saying that they planned to file ’several thousand’ lawsuits and that they were planning “shock and awe” against users[/quote]
…proof? clip?
I’m assuming this applies to US users only…?
Stop posting bs theres no proof of them posting anything anywhere. I just checked CNN/Google News. Stop trying to scare people.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Don’t break the law! What dumbass doesn’t know that by now????
I’m not going to get all stressed out without a document from a well known newspaper or media outlet.
And if this is true, why hasn’t oink himself been charged with anything?
Even I could setup a torrent site…grab everyone’s ip addresses and fill a database with gigabytes of downloads…
Not sure what a database proves..seems like they would have to have something else…which they probably could get from a cooperative isp.
your an idiot.[quote comment="195997"]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Don’t break the law! What dumbass doesn’t know that by now????[/quote]
moron
EAD
You guys are so dramatic, I don’t know if you have been to the United States lately, but let me fill you in. First off we’re fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the entire state of California is on fire. We’re on the brink of war with Iran, and Russia has decided that it wants to team up with them.
The United States has better fucking things to do than beg the UK for logs from a torrent site that will probably all get thrown out in court. Not to mention how are they going to go handle “thousands” of law suits are you kidding me?
yeah never mind, I posted that and it was a hoax
Dunno…it seems that satelite companies in the US just did this a few years ago..
I believe it was in Florida but I can’t remember the exact amount of people that were taken to court and fined.
[quote comment="196009"]You guys are so dramatic, I don’t know if you have been to the United States lately, but let me fill you in. First off we’re fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the entire state of California is on fire. We’re on the brink of war with Iran, and Russia has decided that it wants to team up with them.
The United States has better fucking things to do than beg the UK for logs from a torrent site that will probably all get thrown out in court. Not to mention how are they going to go handle “thousands” of law suits are you kidding me?[/quote]
yeah, let’s all go rob some banks! Nobody’s watching, right???
[quote comment="196010"]yeah never mind, I posted that and it was a hoax[/quote]
I posted it, and it’s true. I saw it myself.
CNN is just California burning, and the site has nothing so yeah.
[quote comment="196020"]CNN is just California burning, and the site has nothing so yeah.[/quote]
It was on before Anderson Cooper’s show.
I just searched through the show transcripts, and cary sherman does not seem to have made an appearance tonight unless he was actually on anderson.
[quote comment="196028"]I just searched through the show transcripts, and cary sherman does not seem to have made an appearance tonight unless he was actually on anderson.[/quote]
dude, quit lying. There is no transcript for shit that happened an hour ago.
Well I just went to CNN’s site to see if there were transcripts and there are, so yep nothing about this. Keep lying please.
LOL. There’s NO TRANSCRIPT for CNN Headline News, you fucking retard.
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