OiNK Database Didn’t ‘Self Destruct’, Wasn’t Encrypted But Users Safe?
Written by enigmax on October 25, 2007Following the raid at OiNK, many of the 180,000 members are very concerned about what’s happening with their details. The rumor: The OiNK database was encrypted and self-destructed. The truth: It wasn’t and it didn’t but ex-users still might be safe. In the meantime, OiNK got fired from his job.
Yesterday, in the wake of the OiNK takedown, we made a report about possible action against Norwegian BitTorrent trackers. In it we revealed that a tipoff suggested that the OiNK database had been equipped with a ’self-destruct’ mechanism and was also encrypted.
‘OiNK’ himself participated in a short Q&A and the truth is that this is not the case. Here is a rundown of the salient points:
The raid was completely unexpected and came with no warning at all but steps had already been taken to protect the users. Although there was no ’self-destruct’ or encryption according to OiNK, “the logs we store aren’t enough to incriminate users.” This will come as a huge relief to ex-members of OiNK.
A Cleveland Police spokesman told The Telegraph: “It is too early to tell if we will go after individuals, it all depends on what we find.”
OiNK is accused of conspiracy to defraud and copyright infringements with police questioning OiNK for hours after which he was eventually released. It became apparent that the police had limited technical knowledge which, according to OiNK “made the interview quite amusing.”
OiNK’s father - who was also dragged into this, is fine - although the police took his laptop.
There was an implication that a backup of the site may exist, although this is unconfirmed and there is no news yet that the forums will be restored for the purposes of music discussion. Additionally, it’s unclear if OiNK remains the owner of the OiNK.CD domain.
Sites have been cropping up claiming to collect donations for legal defense but according to OiNK there aren’t any that potential donators should feel comfortable donating to right now.
Certain changes had been made to the OiNK site and IRC channel in recent weeks security-wise and there was a suggestion that this may have been because a raid was expected. OiNK has denied this and confirmed these changes were a coincidence.
In echoes of what happened to Alexander Hanff (admin of the BitTorrent tracker DVDR-Core) Alan Ellis aka OiNK has been fired from his IT Consultant job following the raid but has refused to elaborate on what grounds his employer - Virgin Media in Stockton-on-Tees - chose to dismiss him.
It’s hugely commendable that OiNK has taken the time to come out and give the community timely facts. Alan told The Daily Telegraph: “I haven’t done anything wrong. I don’t believe my website breaks the law. They don’t understand how it works.”
Stay Tuned
Update: Seems like someone involved in the takedown left an administrative message on the OiNK site (thanks for the tips DaanRiver and R10T):
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Well, Anderson Cooper isn’t on Headline News, so I guess there wouldn’t have to be transcripts for HLN now would there?
oh for christ’s sake
here’s the hoax’s origin:
http://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?t=197356
[quote comment="196035"]LOL. There’s NO TRANSCRIPT for CNN Headline News, you fucking retard.[/quote]
I think you are mistaken as to who the retard is here…….
knock this hoax shit off assholes.
Even Google PR for Oink has dropped to “0″.
[quote comment="196009"]You guys are so dramatic, I don’t know if you have been to the United States lately, but let me fill you in. First off we’re fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the entire state of California is on fire. We’re on the brink of war with Iran, and Russia has decided that it wants to team up with them.
The United States has better fucking things to do than beg the UK for logs from a torrent site that will probably all get thrown out in court. Not to mention how are they going to go handle “thousands” of law suits are you kidding me?[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaVhG-Mb_0&NR=1
Straight from the source, Oink did not log Ips with what you DLed
[quote comment="195586"]I made millions off you losers and the feds got nothing on me. get a life and stop jockin my nuts.
-OiNK[/quote]
As much as I would love to say this guy isn’t OiNK just some idiot… Sadly, OiNK really is an asshole and a very good chance this really is a comment from him.
Ohhh OiNK say cheeeese!
[quote comment="195354"]since the feds now have access to oink’s paypal account, they can easily go after all the oink doners based on paypal transaction id #s.
any doners try to close their paypal account yet?
again they cannot go after paypal accounts those wher DONATIONS[/quote]
Did you just answer your own question or something? They cant go after people who donated to him if all the evidence they have is that person uploading and downloading material. Since theres no way to prove the material was copyrighted, it means everyone is safe regardless.
Fuck it…..
somebody has to mirror all those torrents…
alt.bin.oink NEONE?
its gonna happen
LONG LIVE
alt.bin.oink
The telegraph article. . .
Oink founder: We’re just like Google.
and linked, on the right hand side of that same page. . .
Militants use Google Earth to find targets.
Someone should call the police.
[quote comment="195656"][quote comment="195583"]The key things that would leave users in trouble are:
logging IP addresses
logging torrents downloaded
logging torrents uploaded
As far as I remember, oink did all three of those. They have to log IPs so they can ban cheaters, right? And I’m pretty sure I saw the IP address I was using (my neighbor’s wireless) in my profile (with an “only visible to you” notice, but still recorded in there.)
They also had a list of torrents you snatched, as well as what you uploaded.[/quote]
Actually, just because it displays the IP you are logged in from doesn’t indicate it’s being stored. In fact, Paine himself indicated that they didn’t log IPs for snatches in his blog. (http://tehpaine.blogspot.com/) Check the quote below.
[quote=Paine]A few people have asked me if we logged the IP you snatched things from. The answer is no, we did not log snatch IPs.[/quote]
So, yeah.[/quote]
Wouldn’t that be entrapment?
Ask your lawyer.
Oink, Demonoid, Isohunt, damn. Looks like torrents are going down. Who’s next?
Fuk that, musicians already make too much money. Have you seen what ticket prices are now? Who the fuk do these guys think they are? They travel around for free and party with models. Plus any one can record a good album now at home on there computer. Im not feeling sorry for them.
[quote comment="196182"]Oink, Demonoid, Isohunt, damn. Looks like torrents are going down. Who’s next?[/quote]
Torrents this month/year. Something new, soon. This can’t be stopped.
Tip your waiters and waitresses. Support financially music you enjoy. Don’t forget to floss.
And let a bloated entertainment as lesiure industry hang itself by on its petard.
“…musicians already make too much money. Have you seen what ticket prices are now? Who the fuk do these guys think they are? They travel around for free and party with models.”
Don’t hate on the musicians so much. While the musicians you know about may seem to be living the good life, the majority are hardly traveling around for free and partying with models. It only looks that way because that’s the fantasy they are selling. And if they’re stuck with a major label, they may be famous but it’s likely that they are NOT rich.
Lol, loves these guys who overreact.
Atomic: Could HAVE, might HAVE, would HAVE, not OF. You seem literate enough, except for that annoying trait.
[quote comment="195345"]since the feds now have access to oink’s paypal account, they can easily go after all the oink doners based on paypal transaction id #s.
any doners try to close their paypal account yet?[/quote]
Simply donating to a site dosnt mean you downloaded music illegaly ;)
[quote comment="196212"]Fuk that, musicians already make too much money. Have you seen what ticket prices are now? Who the fuk do these guys think they are? They travel around for free and party with models. Plus any one can record a good album now at home on there computer. Im not feeling sorry for them.[/quote]
Musicians may be able to create their own recordings, but todays “popular” artists wouldn’t have a freakin clue.
They are nothing but an image sold to the masses. They can’t write their own music, play their own instruments, many can’t even sing live and have to lip sync.
… And this is exactly why you don’t use private trackers. Hell, this is partly why the principle of keeping a tracker private is wrong to begin with. I tried to warn people against this in the past. Guess everyone has to learn the hard way.
[quote comment="195404"]i’m thinking about selling my 2 computers i’ve used to download and get me 2 new ones…[/quote]
wtf! what difference would that make?
Might as well remove the update. The page has since dissapeared.
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