OiNK Down, Norwegian BitTorrent Trackers Next
Written by enigmax on October 24, 2007With the BitTorrent world spinning on its heels after the shock takedown of the huge OiNK tracker, there are now indications that the shutdowns may continue. According to the lawyer who lost against ‘DVD Jon’, next stop is Norway and raids are imminent.
Yesterday, the OiNK BitTorrent tracker was raided and shutdown, not by the MPAA but by real life, bona fide police, working hand in hand with industry association, the IFPI. The war against BitTorrent - usually played out on the civil law arena - has suddenly found itself in the criminal domain. The rules have changed.
With the whole BitTorrent community asking themselves what comes next, a clear indicator has come from a lawyer who works for the industry prosecuting file-sharers:
Norway is next and raids are imminent.
Espen Tøndel is a Norwegian lawyer well known for his legal defeat against ‘DVD Jon‘. He is currently working with the Norwegian branch of the IFPI and MPAA.
Tøndel says the Norwegian police are prepared and ready to carry out raids against Norwegian sites. Everything is in place.
When asked to identify the sites, Tøndel refused to elaborate other than to say that the investigation has been underway for some time and that enough names and evidence has already been gathered to make prosecutions in several cases.
When questioned about the possible fate of Norwegian members of OiNK specifically, nothing further was added other than to stress the close co-operation between British, Dutch and Norwegian police.
Tøndel also speculates on who might be prosecuted if the OiNK database is available to police. His thoughts range from suggesting people who upload and downloaded a lot might be in trouble, right through to ‘random individuals’. Or maybe there is another possibility?
Maybe the police don’t have usable lists.
According to the article, a source has stated that the OiNK membership list was not only encrypted, but also equipped with a ’self-destruct’ type mechanism which relied on a regular signal to continue in ‘OFF’ mode.
Although unconfirmed, this situation would be of some comfort to OiNK’s 180,000 members.
Previously: Why Are The IFPI and BPI Allowed To Hijack OiNK?
Next: P2PKids: Because We Care About Sharing
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[quote]What you’re doing is wrong, and you know it.[/quote]
I’m well aware that sharing is not wrong :)
You’re so pathetically arrogant.
shut the fuck up you bunch of boring bastards! Have you read the title of this thread lately?
Just write about what’s relevant will you christ?!!! Grrrr
[quote comment="194871"]Yes … I am on drugs prescribed to me by my doctor due to stress and nerve issues.
Don’t worry about the threat… its the internet… for now… :-)[/quote]Do yourself a favor and commit yourself to an institute the world can do without you.
Music Lover:
Stealing, by definition, involves removing something from someone else’s posession.
When I recieve a stream of bytes (encoded as light at the time it reaches my apartment), I am not taking anything. If I am, please sue the color black for being good at absorbing photons, which might be encoded music!
So what if labels die down, and small bands have to get jobs? I wasn’t aware you need to dedicate your life 24/7 to the music you’re making.
Go look at some statistics. The music world, as it stands, is not benefiting from the industry model - it’s continously being wrung for more cash, stifling any creativity you might find.
[quote comment="194854"]I don’t work for a label and I don’t work for Media Defender. I work in a recording studio here in the US. 90 percent of my work is for smaller labels.
Downloading is killing these small labels. [/quote]
Record better music then, longballs.
I have… they sent me home 2 days later stating that I was fine and that i should just continue my meds.
I just love how TorrentFreak posts always have some troll trying to piss off the masses.
Bring it on bastards
get um squirrel!!!
HA!!
Honestly now can we go back to how OiNK was Owned by their own stupidity but how the admin was smart enough to put in place that self distruct system.
I was in the pub last night, and a guy asked me for a light for his cigarette. I suddenly realised that there was a demand here and money to be made, and so I agreed to light his cigarette for 10 pence, but I didn’t actually give him a light, I sold him a license to burn his cigarette. My fire-license restricted him from giving the light to anybody else, after all, that fire was my property. He was drunk, and dismissing me as a loony, but accepted my fire (and by implication the licence which governed its use) anyway. Of course in a matter of minutes I noticed a friend of his asking him for a light and to my outrage he gave his cigarette to his friend and pirated my fire! I was furious, I started to make my way over to that side of the bar but to my added horror his friend then started to light other people’s cigarettes left, right, and centre! Before long that whole side of the bar was enjoying MY fire without paying me anything. Enraged I went from person to person grabbing their cigarettes from their hands, throwing them to the ground, and stamping on them.
Strangely the door staff exhibited no respect for my property rights as they threw me out the door.
Here is my two cents on the matter of file sharing. When I download music off of the internet am I stealing? I can see where you would think ‘yes’ because if I didn’t download it then I would have had to go to the store and buy it. The thing is though, that I am on too tight a budget to spend frivolous amounts of money on cd’s and music. Therefore, if I wasn’t downloading it on the internet, I would probably just go without the music. And… therefore I wouldn’t be purchasing the music anyways and so I am not actually depriving anybody of any money. I am a musician, albeit, not a famous or a rich one. If I had recorded works, I would want as many people as possible to listen to my music, whether they paid for it or not. Why? Because that would make me happy. Happy that there are people out there that dig my music. Music adds so much soul to our world. Would you deny poor people the joy that music brings to the world because they can’t afford it. While at the same time, Lars Ulrich is flying on private jets and spending money frivolously on nothing, but luxury items. What’s ridiculous about our society isn’t that millions of people download music for free on the internet everyday, but that people in the entertainment industry make as much money as they do, while people who educate and protect our values make next to nothing in comparison. And yeah, millions of people in America today download music for free on the internet. That’s a lot of scumbag thieves Music lover! Music lover my ass. Sounds like you like the sound of money more than the sounds of music.
[quote comment="194790"]You’re stealing from musicians and you know it. Just because it’s been easy and anonymous up to this point, doesn’t mean you’re not a scumbag thief.[/quote]
Stealing 20 cents from musicians, don’t worry I buy plenty of concert tickets, stealing 14.80 from fat corporate execs I like! You’re dumb, and stupid!
I wish I knew Norwegian so I could confirm if this article is valid.
if its true. many people are going to sleep easier.
[quote comment="194765"]Yeah, you like pretending you’re an anarchist while you sit in your parents house.
Stop lying to yourself. You’re stealing from musicians. Scumbags.[/quote]
ROFLROFLROFLROFL I hope you get signed to a major label just so you never smile again.
Wow,
Dont you love this stuff.
Music Lover, why dont you talk to all your friends and ask them what they think of the Major Labels turning down the oppurtunity they had to deal with Napster and change this Torrent culture before it started? Good decision or not? Torrents is like smoking, some like it, some dont, good for some bad for others. But do honestly think acting like a 10 year old on the internet is going to change a thing? America had prohibition which helped the mafia establish itself so when Prohibition ended they had the ditributon networks to go onto other substanaces. Well, these crackdowns only make it worse. Come up with a better ITunes or something, just dont sit there and cry like a baby OK?
R.I.P Oink
The void you have left will never be filled
Caell, you stole the words right out my mouth, erm.. borrowed.
stop the guff
cough up what you know Freak
or shut up
[quote comment="194900"]I wish I knew Norwegian so I could confirm if this article is valid.
if its true. many people are going to sleep easier.[/quote]
Find a translator, take some time to look it up.
I didn’t read anything in the article about the self destruction.
Translated, the best I could find.
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@ “music lover”:
I AM A MUSCIAN.
Get a life fuckface.
ok as much fun as it seeing everyone argue the same old points over and over. I must say that the lack of originality on both sides of this argument is getting old.
Both side needs to show true facts i.e . stats from impartial organizations. The “you all steal and the bands lose money” argument is useless unless you PROVE it! Same goes for ” most people who download, buy the music after”.
This war is about the middle ground and lets face it neither side is on the middle ground. Most consumers want reasonably priced no DRM music. The price should take into account the fact that downloading removes the cost of media and stamping that would be required to release something in an actual physical form.
$1 for a single songs is unproportionally high and the sooner the music industry learns this the sooner their profits will start to increase. Consumers aren’t stupid and don’t enjoy being taken advantage of.
I know this is falling on deaf ears but i needed to say this at least once
first of all, Espen Tøndel, if i ever see you walking down the street, i will shit on your chest…but by the looks of you, you’d probably like that, wouldn’t you?
second, music lover, eat shit and die. shut the fuck up. no one likes you
They’ll never stop pirates, just look at original pirates from olden days, nothing stopped them.
[quote comment="194795"]You take advantage of the fact you can copy music, so instead of buying it, you steal it. Your stealing takes money from the record store, and the royalties for musicians.
Quit pretending you don’t know that already.[/quote]
Actually you cant prove that I WOULD OF BOUGHT IT!!! I download it, doesnt mean i would gone to the store and bought the album. I dont buy a car before driving, I Wont buy an album before listening. THE MATRIX HAS YOU!!
here is an example “music lover,” i downloaded asterisk volume 4 which is by Qn5 music, a very small group of artists.
Because i downloaded this single album, and loved it, i bought it, i then downloaded 1, 2, and 3, as well as from surfing the web finding other albums that were connected to these artists and downloaded them, i then bought all of these albums that i loved
In all, i bought about 45 albums that i never would have even heard about, and still had select songs from the other 10 or so albums that i didn’t care for so much. As for say… the 50cent and kanye albums that came out recently, i downloaded both of them, strongly disliked all but around 5 tracks from both of them combined, then deleted all but those 5 tracks, You see, there is no way in hell i would buy both of those albums therefore kanye and 50 didn’t lose any money, but due to piracy many many different artists (i would guess 70 total) are sharing in the profits of my (45*10 about) $450 that they would never have, i also went to a concert with a few of them there, cost me around $80 total, are you telling me that i am stealing from the music industry?
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