Gee talk about double dipping by the record companies. The original recording would have given the artist pittance and as a CD re-issue would still only give the artist a pittance. Where does thew other $15 bucks go?

1) Whats the point of buying a CD if most of the songs are just fillers. I mean if there are 10 songs on a cd and only 2 are good, that means i have paid $8 of every $10 on garbage just to listen to a few tracks.

2) I could and do purchase individual tracks from online music stores. But you know what, most of the songs are in AAC+ or mp3pro, which are either copy protected or DRM’d to work on a single platform or system. Since i possess a good hifi, i would prefer to purchase the original uncompressed track anyday over AAC crap.

3) Since most tracks are copy protected and time limited, i cannot even back them up. So as a customer my choices are artificially restricted.

4) I own 14 DVDA discs and some SACds. Since i purchased the discs, dont i have a right to at least make one back up copy. The only way to make up a copy is time consuming and annoying to say the least. By the way some of my SACds are scratched and unplayable. Now i have to buy some new ones to replace them. I wouldn’t have to do this if I was allowed to make a legal, albeit copy protected backup.
Now i have to pay double which basically means that i wind up paying $20+ for the same stuff. ANd some of the SACDs are unavailable now!!!

6) Only 2 of every 10 music groups make money. That means that the studio has to amortize the costs of the failures over all groups, even the successful ones. Which actually means that the CD you buy is worth only $2 instead of $10. Factor in the fact that even the best selling albums nowadays have only 2-3 hit songs from an average 10 songs, then the listenable uncomressed stereo songs cost only 60 cents in total or 20 cents each. If i could get the songs i like for 20 cents, i will definitely stop downloading pirated stuff. If the industry really cared for its consumers, then they could price the downloads cheaper. I dont care whether they have DRM or not, so long as they play fine.

Look forward to reasoned out reply.

DLin music doesn’t hurt the band. Most people do go out and buy it if they like it, there are always vinyl sales, and further it is the cheapest form of PR out there allowing bands to attract much greater crowds for next to nothing. Yes there is always the free rider problem but that existed even with radio and cassette tapes. The only reason the labels are so pissed off, is b/c they aren’t getting a cut for doing absolutley nothing (not much different than protection money from the mob.)[/quote]

Exactly. I don’t think people that haven’t tried to release music understand that the “recording industry” is just an obsolete blob of connections with outmoded ideas and concerns. “Intellectual Property” is a laughable concept. If you don’t want somebody to take your ideas or work, don’t show anybody! If it’s good you’ll get credit where credit is due, and some level of exposure too. With that comes monetary gain.

I know the artist is happy for me to just be listening, and if I like the artist enough, I have no problem supporting them. I have a problem having the vast majority of money that would be going to the artist going into the pockets of clueless corporations. Stop defending an exploitative corporate conglomerate, you’re defending greed and bureaucracy, not the artists.

Also, for any Norwegians; the police have their hands full trying to get illegal hookers off Carl Johan…

DLin music doesn’t hurt the band. Most people do go out and buy it if they like it, there are always vinyl sales, and further it is the cheapest form of PR out there allowing bands to attract much greater crowds for next to nothing. Yes there is always the free rider problem but that existed even with radio and cassette tapes. The only reason the labels are so pissed off, is b/c they aren’t getting a cut for doing absolutley nothing (not much different than protection money from the mob.)

Anyone a fan of Marillion?

“In 2001 ‘Anoraknophobia’ saw Marillion take the groundbreaking step of asking fans to pre-order an album 12 months before release. An amazing 12,000 people signed up, helping to finance the recording. The band once again took pre-orders for the 2004 masterpiece ‘Marbles,’ but this time the money was channelled into a campaign fund to promote its launch. When singles ‘Don’t Hurt Yourself’ and ‘You’re Gone’ breached the UK top 20 , the latter making it all the way to number 7 , jaws were dropped right across the music world.”

The writing’s on the wall for the big labels, and has been for a while, they’re just unable to read it!!!

GOD bless all you ‘pirates’ everywhere.