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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 19 May 2009 17:42:50 +0000

The court systems would run much more smoothly if pirates ran them.

By: Julgamento de administrador de tracker privado de BitTorrent OiNK só em 2010 | Remixtures

Mon, 18 May 2009 16:09:11 +0000

[...] de Teesside, eis que o juiz decidiu adiar a sessão para 4 de Janeiro de 2010, de acordo com o TorrentFreak. Este já deve ser para aí o quarto ou quinto adiamento do julgamento de Ellis. Pelos vistos, a [...]

By: Wadda

Wadda — Mon, 18 May 2009 14:44:22 +0000

What I find criminal is that, as far as I know, they are still holding his bank accounts and any sources of income hostage.

Didn’t they also get him fired from his job too?

By: John

John — Mon, 18 May 2009 09:05:58 +0000

“Unfortunately, private tracker, commercial purpose = criminal.”

Huh? Did you ever have an OiNK account?
I never gave OiNK a penny for anything :P

Thinking about it, i’m not even sure the site had adverts :/

There was nothing commercial here at all. Sure you could donate however much you wanted and in return get a little donater’s emblem next to your name….

You did NOT get:
A wider selection of torrents.
The ability to download more without sharing to the same ratio as a non-donater.

Or anything torrent related other than access to the ‘advanced search’ feature, which allowed you to search by similar artists.

By: Mh

Mh — Mon, 18 May 2009 08:24:13 +0000

Simple.

They are most likely expecting to have much more tougher, and for the prosecution simpler, laws in place by 2010 that will allow them to freely rape anyone of their choosing, with or without true reason.

Guy Fawkes, we need you NOW.

By: Salazar

Salazar — Sun, 17 May 2009 19:07:16 +0000

Yeah, send your donations for OiNK c/o TPB or, better still, Jon Newton, at least you won’t have to worry about whether the money used for a good purpose.(sarcasm)

Unfortunately, private tracker, commercial purpose = criminal.

The recording industries, BPI, IFPI, RIAA, FACT and MPAA all seem to be getting the upper hand through easy pickings. If they hadn’t got a case against this guy, they wouldn’t have got an adjournment. Probably just waiting for a judge to become available with sufficient technical knowledge to understand the issues.

Shouting like love struck teens deprived of their beloved wank-mags isn’t going to cut it with corrupt politicans, an uncaring public and an avaricious music/filmsoftware industry. The best bet is to give this one up as a (sadly) lost cause and donate to the creation of new sites.

The biggest weapon the file sharers have is resilience and numerical superiority. It takes a couple of weeks to set up a new tracker, it takes then months or years to get their “cases” through the court system.

By: djmrselfdestruct

djmrselfdestruct — Sun, 17 May 2009 14:36:24 +0000

is someone collecting donations for alan? we should do so for his bail….

By: faulkuss

faulkuss — Sun, 17 May 2009 14:24:59 +0000

This is frustrating how this keeps getting delayed. I just want to see some closure to this site’s history. My guess is that the prosecution is discovering they have no evidence to prove anything and will keep delaying this for several years and then quietly drop the case.

By: John

John — Sun, 17 May 2009 10:52:33 +0000

I would PAY to read an interview with Alan.

The man is a legend.

He developes the BEST music promotion tool in the world (STILL!).

He developes the BEST high-quality music aquisition tool in the world (STILL!).

He developes one of the BEST audiophile commuity in the world.

And he’s been on bail for longer than most people in the BPI have kept there jobs!

Why?
Because of the shitstorm it would cause if he was given the not-guilty verdict.

I for one would IMMEDIATLY open up a tracker if i knew i could do so legally in the UK.

I feel so sorry for people reading this with an interest in music who didn’t have an OiNK account.

My knowledge of music, how it’s encoded, the fine detail of good quality sources, the hardware to listen to it on, etc etc – all of it stems from OiNK.

My love for jazzy intrumental hip-hop, classical and blues was non-existant untill OiNK.

OiNK. Was. Music.

If i was a millionaire i’d spend every penny getting that man the justice and more importantly the recognition he deserves.

Fucking national hero IMHO.

By: El Flamo

El Flamo — Sat, 16 May 2009 21:30:55 +0000

OiNK was too easy. What killed OiNK only makes What? stronger.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:56:30 +0000

@37

its easier to prosecute a smaller population of users in a community than a bigger one like what, easily.

By: Lossless

Lossless — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:41:56 +0000

^ Tell that to OiNK. What will go down before waffles, easilly.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 16 May 2009 19:08:24 +0000

@25

you are mistaken sir, what has very good quality and quantity, and has the most flac/ lossless out of any private site. also, it’s easier to go after the smaller sites with less of a population than a growing community. :)

By: rdwp

rdwp — Sat, 16 May 2009 14:39:34 +0000

OiNK is dead!
Music was so good it would make your tail curl.

it never can be replaced with what.cd, waffels.fm or what ever. Deep down it still hurts and there is no medicine to take the pain away.

RIP OiNK’s Pink Palace!

By: BeGoodRascal

BeGoodRascal — Sat, 16 May 2009 12:15:10 +0000

Its criminal that a state can hang a man’s freedom in the balance for so long. If possible, I’d really hope torrentfreak could get an interview with Alan just to find out what things have been like for him since the shutdown – has he been able to work and/or enjoy life while constantly awaiting trial for 2+ years? What his take on the delays is.
Honestly, what relevant evidence will show up by January 2010 that hasn’t already existed since 2007?

By: James

James — Sat, 16 May 2009 10:11:08 +0000

Could work in the defendants favour as if a trial goes on too long then they can be acquitted.

By: watergirl258

watergirl258 — Sat, 16 May 2009 09:26:57 +0000

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By: socialwebcms.com

socialwebcms.com — Sat, 16 May 2009 09:18:48 +0000

Trial of OiNK BitTorrent Site Admin Delayed Until 2010 | TorrentFreak…

During October 2007, the popular BitTorrent tracker OiNK was shut down in a joint effort by Dutch and British law enforcement. Four users of the popular BitTorrent tracker have already been sentenced to community service, fines and payment of court cos…

By: know this

know this — Sat, 16 May 2009 08:35:09 +0000

fuck the torrents. scene still lives. I dont give a shit if random noob doesnt get to steal his new britney album or shit like that.

By: x

Sat, 16 May 2009 08:03:04 +0000

ri fuckin diculous

By: Don't buy from RIAA

Don't buy from RIAA — Sat, 16 May 2009 07:40:05 +0000

I haven’t bought a single track since the ILLEGAL raid of OINK.

I only support artists directly or by donating to independent labels.

I don’t get why ppl still buy music from major labels.

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Trial of OiNK BitTorrent Site Admin Delayed Until 2010 - UB:UK — Sat, 16 May 2009 06:48:40 +0000

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 16 May 2009 06:24:29 +0000

17 May 16, 2009 at 01:59 by Reasoned Mind

Does anyone here have an organization they can do their community service at.

We should hook these guys up.

Community Service does not work like that – You don’t get to choose!

By: James

James — Sat, 16 May 2009 06:05:45 +0000

Let him go :(

By: The DON

The DON — Sat, 16 May 2009 04:41:36 +0000

In the UK, the fraud laws are so wide ranging that almost anyone who sells a product could be cosidered guilty of fraud.
Being guilty of conspiracy to fraud would therefore be a matter of whos got the best lawyer :-(

I wish Alan and co the best of luck

By: dtl

dtl — Sat, 16 May 2009 02:30:45 +0000

why is there a media blackout?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 16 May 2009 00:22:17 +0000

Another proof that private sites aren’t safer than public sites. You still need to take the same pre-caution on a private site vs public site.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 16 May 2009 00:04:07 +0000

@6
waffles is more about quality than quantity, many of what.cd torrents are transcodes/mislabeled. they also give invites to anyone that enters their irc.

plus, the bigger sites get taken down before the smaller ones ;)

By: nWo

nWo — Fri, 15 May 2009 22:09:37 +0000

@22 your just a dumb muppet, if someone buys it and shares it, that is called filesharing not stealing/piracy.

By: Kwork

Kwork — Fri, 15 May 2009 22:05:34 +0000

I think the shutting down of Oink actually helped to spread things around. It was through hearing about that that I got involved in torrents at all. A heartfelt thanks go to the authorities for doing all of us this magnificent favor.

By: neostyles

neostyles — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:38:33 +0000

Im glad to see that the legal community is finally waking up and taking action against those that think stealing things is fine.

By: lulz

lulz — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:09:25 +0000

Michael Meyers should have killed them. ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:52:36 +0000

@18

yes at a torrent site please :)

By: redcam

redcam — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:40:26 +0000

I actually found out about torrentfreak the day OiNK got shut down searching google for news about it.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:21:27 +0000

@17: I wonder if they can do it volunteering at a torrent site.

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:59:42 +0000

Does anyone here have an organization they can do their community service at.

We should hook these guys up.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:28:44 +0000

“During October 2007, the popular BitTorrent tracker OiNK was shut down”

“Trial of OiNK BitTorrent Site Admin Delayed Until 2010″

————–

This is another farce from the music industry… After of almost 2 years they don’t have any case, and really there doesn’t exist any case.

This case could be taken by a lawyer with balls who could represent to Alan Ellis and starting a trial against the music industry for harrasment.

But obviously, this won’t happen.

By: SeawayOutset

SeawayOutset — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:21:51 +0000

Pretty sure he’s been released for forever.

By: Jade

Jade — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:11:57 +0000

@ Torrentia

I thought he was still in prison? Was he released yet?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:46:41 +0000

I got a feeling the reason everything is being kept quiet is there will be more people in the cross hairs down the road. It may go to the U.S.

By: Torrentia

Torrentia — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:41:53 +0000

I bet OiNK admin is happy. All he has to do is show up at court every couple of months for the rest of his life and he’s a free man. He hasnt even been convicted of anything.

By: Crabstick

Crabstick — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:33:04 +0000

@Ernesto
Aah OK thanks :P

What could they possibly need more time for? & what are they looking for now? WMD, terrorists, oil…

By: Mr.Afghanistan

Mr.Afghanistan — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:28:32 +0000

Now OiNK is a joke :P
Delay Delay Delay LoL.

By: Ernesto

Ernesto — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:23:37 +0000

Sorry Crabstick, I didn’t mean to do that :)

OiNK.cd is now updated with info about the trial date. There is a hearing September 2009, but we have no idea what the purpose of it…

By: Crabstick

Crabstick — Fri, 15 May 2009 18:11:35 +0000

Just wondering why my comment was removed?? I only said that the OiNK website(s) said the trial was adjourned to 25th Sep. 2009. I wasn’t being arsey just wondering which is right.

By: NastyBedazzler

NastyBedazzler — Fri, 15 May 2009 17:56:19 +0000

This has become ridiculous, even more than it was when it first began. This does not constitute a “speedy” trial while the prosecution pushes back court dates again and again in a futile attempt to gather more ‘evidence’. If it isn’t there, it isn’t there, give it up already.

By: Scott Kingsley Clark

Scott Kingsley Clark — Fri, 15 May 2009 17:54:59 +0000

Waffles only has 255k torrents :/

By: Torrentino

Torrentino — Fri, 15 May 2009 17:44:23 +0000

I remember OiNK back in the day, ahh the good ‘ol days.

But seriously, what is so bad about running a tracker?

http://torrentino.info

By: slinger

slinger — Fri, 15 May 2009 17:32:14 +0000

From Xhibit….

Court 5 T20087573
T20087606
ALAN ELLIS
MATTHEW WYATT
For Mention – Hearing finished for ALAN ELLIS – 14:26