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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-469999</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister got a letter today from a solicitor saying she had to pay a Â£500 fine for downloading a file through bitcomet. I havent seen the letter but she says it gives the date from last year when the file was downloaded. Im going to ask her to send me a copy so i can look into it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister got a letter today from a solicitor saying she had to pay a Â£500 fine for downloading a file through bitcomet. I havent seen the letter but she says it gives the date from last year when the file was downloaded. Im going to ask her to send me a copy so i can look into it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonomyous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-468800</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonomyous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we bank on the EU to save us? I don&#039;t think Brown is up to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we bank on the EU to save us? I don&#8217;t think Brown is up to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-468306</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a moron Annika of Tele2 is: &quot;It would entail us having to spy on our customers.&quot;

Wow. Imagine that. Did the IDIOT forget about the new law that allows the Swedish government to do just that? She&#039;s making it sound like spying on customers and infringing on their privacy would never happen in Sweden.

Hello?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a moron Annika of Tele2 is: &#8220;It would entail us having to spy on our customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Imagine that. Did the IDIOT forget about the new law that allows the Swedish government to do just that? She&#8217;s making it sound like spying on customers and infringing on their privacy would never happen in Sweden.</p>
<p>Hello?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467779</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@91, you&#039;re right. I&#039;m not even a Brit but I&#039;m disgusted with what&#039;s going on over there. How ironic that the Labour party, which everyone was so ecstatic over when they came to power in the 90s, apparently thought 1984 was something to mold a country after. They really need to have their asses thrown out immediately, they are a total disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@91, you&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m not even a Brit but I&#8217;m disgusted with what&#8217;s going on over there. How ironic that the Labour party, which everyone was so ecstatic over when they came to power in the 90s, apparently thought 1984 was something to mold a country after. They really need to have their asses thrown out immediately, they are a total disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467742</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL @ 96 - &quot;If I get a letter, it&#039;s going straight back with a request for proof detailing exactly what I took and how I infringe music copyright!&quot; now that is a good attitude lol. I might follow suit if I get a letter. Besides, I download using Rapidshare, so not sure if I will or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL @ 96 &#8211; &#8220;If I get a letter, it&#8217;s going straight back with a request for proof detailing exactly what I took and how I infringe music copyright!&#8221; now that is a good attitude lol. I might follow suit if I get a letter. Besides, I download using Rapidshare, so not sure if I will or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonomyous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467528</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonomyous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to fight these Internet police, Europewide camp[aigns are needed. Well done to Germany, if only we in Britain would take a similar line. :(

The fact is SIX AND A HALF MILLION people do it here!?!

How the hell are they going to be able to put that many people through the Court system!?! It&#039;ll take decades at least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to fight these Internet police, Europewide camp[aigns are needed. Well done to Germany, if only we in Britain would take a similar line. :(</p>
<p>The fact is SIX AND A HALF MILLION people do it here!?!</p>
<p>How the hell are they going to be able to put that many people through the Court system!?! It&#8217;ll take decades at least!</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzypig</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467493</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzypig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feck &#039;em! If I get a letter, it&#039;s going straight back with a request for proof detailing exactly what I took and how I infringe music copyright! 

I don&#039;t rip music or movies, might help myself to a few TV shows and radio shows, but never commercial music. 

Nah, you run torrent traffic you&#039;re gonna get a letter, that&#039;s all it will consist of! Well lets start pulling down Linux distros non-stop and see what they come up with!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feck &#8216;em! If I get a letter, it&#8217;s going straight back with a request for proof detailing exactly what I took and how I infringe music copyright! </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t rip music or movies, might help myself to a few TV shows and radio shows, but never commercial music. </p>
<p>Nah, you run torrent traffic you&#8217;re gonna get a letter, that&#8217;s all it will consist of! Well lets start pulling down Linux distros non-stop and see what they come up with!!!</p>
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		<title>By: not so unlucky guy from UK</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467441</link>
		<dc:creator>not so unlucky guy from UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, these laws are only against Brit uploaders. As long as they dont go as far as persecuting every downloader (will probably happen in the near future seeing as how things are going now...), then just dont upload when you are in UK. But does that also count seeders (uploader but not really &quot;the&quot; uploader)? O.o

Besides, UK isnt even 100mbps yet (even London which is the capital). It isnt much of a big loss to the seeding community...but nonetheless, still a loss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, these laws are only against Brit uploaders. As long as they dont go as far as persecuting every downloader (will probably happen in the near future seeing as how things are going now&#8230;), then just dont upload when you are in UK. But does that also count seeders (uploader but not really &#8220;the&#8221; uploader)? O.o</p>
<p>Besides, UK isnt even 100mbps yet (even London which is the capital). It isnt much of a big loss to the seeding community&#8230;but nonetheless, still a loss</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so lets say they end up charging a Â£30 fee to anyone with a computer and an internet connection. This fee is then collected by the government and that goes to the music industry. Well then what about all the software companies (think of all the people who download Adobe products), the film industry and the companies that produce TV shows. Will we get taxed Â£30 for each frigging industry?
What if I haven&#039;t been downloading music at all, but just films and software?

Besides, what about people who download via direct HTTP methods such as Rapidshare and Megaupload? Those websites are not first and foremost illegal file sharing websites, but are frequently abused for this purpose. Will uses of theses sites get penalized also?

I don&#039;t think the government is propping up a failing industry. Artists still manage to make multi millions, so why should they need even more cash just because they&#039;re struggling to pay for their fourth house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so lets say they end up charging a Â£30 fee to anyone with a computer and an internet connection. This fee is then collected by the government and that goes to the music industry. Well then what about all the software companies (think of all the people who download Adobe products), the film industry and the companies that produce TV shows. Will we get taxed Â£30 for each frigging industry?<br />
What if I haven&#8217;t been downloading music at all, but just films and software?</p>
<p>Besides, what about people who download via direct HTTP methods such as Rapidshare and Megaupload? Those websites are not first and foremost illegal file sharing websites, but are frequently abused for this purpose. Will uses of theses sites get penalized also?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the government is propping up a failing industry. Artists still manage to make multi millions, so why should they need even more cash just because they&#8217;re struggling to pay for their fourth house?</p>
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		<title>By: troof</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467305</link>
		<dc:creator>troof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I seen on the news the other day that some self employed plumber sitting in his van smoking a cig was handed a fine by the local council for smoking in his workplace.

This is the new Great Britian!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I seen on the news the other day that some self employed plumber sitting in his van smoking a cig was handed a fine by the local council for smoking in his workplace.</p>
<p>This is the new Great Britian!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonomyous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467300</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonomyous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what else beggars belief? The way alll these Governments are just rolling over and having their tummies tickled by these Industries. Has the world gone completely insane? I mean, Governments are elected or should be elected for the majority of the people- NOT big business! Just how craven are these people!?!

Hopefully the EU will do the right thing and stop the 3 strikes rule as a first step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what else beggars belief? The way alll these Governments are just rolling over and having their tummies tickled by these Industries. Has the world gone completely insane? I mean, Governments are elected or should be elected for the majority of the people- NOT big business! Just how craven are these people!?!</p>
<p>Hopefully the EU will do the right thing and stop the 3 strikes rule as a first step.</p>
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		<title>By: Oinker</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467261</link>
		<dc:creator>Oinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And those limey Brit police have extended Alan Ellis&#039;s bail YET AGAIN!  Now September 10th...  WTF are they trying to do?  

I thought the US was bad with the RIAA/MPAA, but man, the UK seems to be turning into a corporate controlled police state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And those limey Brit police have extended Alan Ellis&#8217;s bail YET AGAIN!  Now September 10th&#8230;  WTF are they trying to do?  </p>
<p>I thought the US was bad with the RIAA/MPAA, but man, the UK seems to be turning into a corporate controlled police state.</p>
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		<title>By: .: :: :-: ::: ::.</title>
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		<dc:creator>.: :: :-: ::: ::.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the fu[k is UP with UK these days.l mean it Really is going to shit quicker than l can keep up ! 

Someone,anyone, SORT IT OUT FOR F SAKE
It really is becoming ridiculous now.
not just regarding this article but every other area in politics.

roads,cameras,cctv,drinking,smoking,workplaces,
everything is a fkin joke here.

god where are the brains gone ! 

someone PLEASE get some COMMONSENSE
BACK HERE ,WE TRULY NEED IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the fu[k is UP with UK these days.l mean it Really is going to shit quicker than l can keep up ! </p>
<p>Someone,anyone, SORT IT OUT FOR F SAKE<br />
It really is becoming ridiculous now.<br />
not just regarding this article but every other area in politics.</p>
<p>roads,cameras,cctv,drinking,smoking,workplaces,<br />
everything is a fkin joke here.</p>
<p>god where are the brains gone ! </p>
<p>someone PLEASE get some COMMONSENSE<br />
BACK HERE ,WE TRULY NEED IT.</p>
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		<title>By: troof</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467224</link>
		<dc:creator>troof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not so much getting a letter from your isp. The problem is not so much that the bpi ability to bore you with legal mumbo jumbo in an attempt to scare you. The problem is not apathy. The problem is most deffinately that the attitude of the majority of non filesharing public is that infringing copyright is illegal. To them you are scum. To them you are a thief. To them there is no justification to downloading shit for free. The problem is also that they are the majority. As long as they feel like agreements like this do not affect them they couldnt give a shit. They will tell you they do not care and it is you who is in the wrong. As long as that remains the caes, no ammount of bitching by the p2p community is going to change anything. You are the minority.

Solution? Kill your neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not so much getting a letter from your isp. The problem is not so much that the bpi ability to bore you with legal mumbo jumbo in an attempt to scare you. The problem is not apathy. The problem is most deffinately that the attitude of the majority of non filesharing public is that infringing copyright is illegal. To them you are scum. To them you are a thief. To them there is no justification to downloading shit for free. The problem is also that they are the majority. As long as they feel like agreements like this do not affect them they couldnt give a shit. They will tell you they do not care and it is you who is in the wrong. As long as that remains the caes, no ammount of bitching by the p2p community is going to change anything. You are the minority.</p>
<p>Solution? Kill your neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467029</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK and mostly get free music from www.jamendo.com, used to get previews of music before buying the CD&#039;s but risk being called a criminal by the BPI.

Since not going to be easy to preview, will have to take the safe step of not buying any more CD&#039;s

Luckily am in a small ISP :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK and mostly get free music from <a href="http://www.jamendo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamendo.com</a>, used to get previews of music before buying the CD&#8217;s but risk being called a criminal by the BPI.</p>
<p>Since not going to be easy to preview, will have to take the safe step of not buying any more CD&#8217;s</p>
<p>Luckily am in a small ISP :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467018</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@85
Well, it&#039;s obvious that the industry watches TorrentFreak as much, if not more, than we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@85<br />
Well, it&#8217;s obvious that the industry watches TorrentFreak as much, if not more, than we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Izumi-sensei</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-467010</link>
		<dc:creator>Izumi-sensei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@85
Well, I think that the best way to spread our views to the masses is first to discuss how we can do this. Obviously the TorrentFreak blog is not the best place to do this. I think that an anonymous message board would be best, because it is most easy to discuss how people can plan to do things in real-life. I have this message board here: 
http://www.28chan.org/fs/

And it can easily be used to discuss principles and means of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@85<br />
Well, I think that the best way to spread our views to the masses is first to discuss how we can do this. Obviously the TorrentFreak blog is not the best place to do this. I think that an anonymous message board would be best, because it is most easy to discuss how people can plan to do things in real-life. I have this message board here:<br />
<a href="http://www.28chan.org/fs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.28chan.org/fs/</a></p>
<p>And it can easily be used to discuss principles and means of action.</p>
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		<title>By: Eldritch</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-466865</link>
		<dc:creator>Eldritch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the defeatists and pessimists could be people from the music/movie industries trying to make people disempower themselves. Our views must be spread to the masses through any and all means possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the defeatists and pessimists could be people from the music/movie industries trying to make people disempower themselves. Our views must be spread to the masses through any and all means possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-466835</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the ISPs acting in this way isn&#039;t technically a monopoly, but it&#039;s anti-competitive behavior. It seems similar to what the music and movie companies due when they sue their listeners and viewers. They&#039;re supposedly competitors, but effectively act as a joint entity when suing their customers. Somehow this is allowed to stand. Seems companies get around the restrictions on monopolies by just becoming sneaky cartels instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the ISPs acting in this way isn&#8217;t technically a monopoly, but it&#8217;s anti-competitive behavior. It seems similar to what the music and movie companies due when they sue their listeners and viewers. They&#8217;re supposedly competitors, but effectively act as a joint entity when suing their customers. Somehow this is allowed to stand. Seems companies get around the restrictions on monopolies by just becoming sneaky cartels instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougster</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/on-file-sharers-080726/#comment-466671</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us all share here....
http://2peer.com/
Anybody interested in sharing their MP3s, contact me at the following address
retroradio64@hotmail.com
Subject your email &quot;FILE SHARE&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us all share here&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://2peer.com/" rel="nofollow">http://2peer.com/</a><br />
Anybody interested in sharing their MP3s, contact me at the following address<br />
<a href="mailto:retroradio64@hotmail.com">retroradio64@hotmail.com</a><br />
Subject your email &#8220;FILE SHARE&#8221;</p>
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