Comments on: One in Three Broadband Subscribers is a Pirate

By: BluRayRWfreaK

BluRayRWfreaK — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:02:43 +0000

I don’t mind to pay $8 to see a movie in the cinema, some movies you just have to see on the big screen.

What I do mind is when i have to pay $4 for a cup of coke filled with 50% ice and $4 for a bucket of popcorn, now that’s called Grand Theft :)

So these days I go to walmart buy myself drinks, candy and popcorn watch a brand new screener while i download at the same time two other new screeners :) or occasionally br/dvd-rips in 1080p

Long Life Broadband and my Philips BR-RW :)

By: BluRayRWfreaK

BluRayRWfreaK — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:50:57 +0000

I’m a Pirate!! I’m a Pirate!! I’m a Pirate!!

And I don’t give a damn.

308 BR-RW and counting :)

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By: Power Shack

Power Shack — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:07:23 +0000

Power Shack…

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By: Watchman

Watchman — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:46:20 +0000

10 in 10 CEOs are crooks.

10 in 10 congressmen are whores.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:30:33 +0000

What’s illegal about file sharing? Somebody bought the file before sharing it.

By: hnb

hnb — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:40:41 +0000

here is another perspective:
the studios dont care who pays them as long as they get their money from SOMEWHERE. consider this. how many times have you watched content that was once available as a movie, later as dvd, then as a paid from cable content, and then via free-to-air TV ? it happens all the time. now if you take the last part, you’ll realize that the free-to-air channels do in fact pay the studios to get the content, but we dont, because the station also broadcasts ads in the hopes to make some money to pay for the content, their expenses and also make some profit. but since they have no mechanism to see who is actually paying (we viewers by buying stuff that they advertise) in reality they give that content to us for FREE. so in reality the studios DO GIVE their content for free, but some one else (the station) paid them. so they dont care since they got their money already. this example clearly shows that the whole mechanism is flawed and needs a new design from the ground up so that everyone can benefit. I used to work for TV and media so we have to admit that companies need to pay their people, so they cant afford to lose money all the time, they need however to find other ways to monetize the content.

By: TerribleTony

TerribleTony — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:08:03 +0000

Hmm, no numbers?

No numbers no believe say I.

By: Copyrighted Filesharing Will Never Die | It May Be Illegal But People Don’t Think It’s Wrong

Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:35:22 +0000

[...] are probably more people sharing copyrighted material online now than ever before. According to TorrentFreak, one in three Broadband subscribers openly admits to flouting the law and doing so. And the survey [...]

By: fafalone

fafalone — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:34:27 +0000

There’s one simple reason why I believe it is absolutely moral, and should be legal, for me to download TV shows and movies:

I pay for cable television and I’m allowed to record the same programs off the TV. And I suspect the vast majority of people that are also DLing from my system have television service too (who has broadband but not basic cable?).

Therefore I do not see it as morally wrong to download and watch these programs when I want on whatever device I want. Why is there not more outrage over the hypocrisy of TiVo being legal but then getting the same stuff from a torrent, and bam you’re in court. It’s bullshit. My friend has hundreds of VHS tapes of movies in his closet, all recorded from TV. I don’t see anything wrong with sourcing them from a computer and storing them on a hard drive instead of his method.

By: Black Matt

Black Matt — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:03:52 +0000

I don’t steal, I don’t rob.
I don’t rape, I don’t kill.
I am not on a ship or an airplane.
I am not in international waters, nor outside the realm of national jurisdictions.

I am not a pirate.

(regardless of how much I desire to emulate your faux-cool)

By: Loganotron » Blog Archive » We’re All Pirates: the RIAA, Broadband Piracy, & Harvard

Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:24:48 +0000

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By: Anomander Rake

Anomander Rake — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:30:22 +0000

copyright is being abused by the industries to leach money from the consumers and the artist. copy right laws were intended for intellectual property not physical property. It protects people from having their ideas or art credited to someone else. I think most people realized the hypocracy of this when vcr’s came out and we used them knowing that it was technically illegal to record shows and movies off television. Selling bootleg copies of something or taking song lyrics and using them in your own song. These are crimes. Filesharing is not.

By: kurye

kurye — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:15:03 +0000

By: Fight_the_Tyranny

Fight_the_Tyranny — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:07:53 +0000

Knowledge is free and without limits, contrary to what the monopolists want us to believe, and therefore they will always fail.

By: slava!

slava! — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:18:59 +0000

“The majority of these downloaders are well aware that their habits are illegal, but it doesn’t play on their conscience.”

Why, should it play on our conscience?! When you borrow class notes from a friend to catch up, do you have to pay him royalties?! And if not, one should feel guilty atleast, right?

By: Belch

Belch — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:28:31 +0000

downloadin 24/7

By: Skunkdogg

Skunkdogg — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:22:47 +0000

man, i don’t care what anyone says, ever since i got my lappy back in June of 08, i’ve pry dled or in this case “pirated” well over a grand in software, movies, videos, music, and games. who cares? what is it to anyone?

By: Free Lunch

Free Lunch — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:34:58 +0000

“As opposed to your multiple accounts?

Pot, kettle.”
—————–

no roze (yes, i know it’s you)

unlike you, i never had multiple accounts, only multiple names in an effort to dodge default post moderation. [Mods note - there is no way changing names would alter moderation standards being applied to yout posts. Same username, different ones - it makes no difference]

“Theft
1. (Law) The act of stealing; specifically, the felonious taking and removing of personal property, with an intent to deprive the rightful owner of the same; larceny.”
————

that’s one definition, here’s another: “the illegal taking of another person’s property without that person’s freely-given consent.” [moderators note - being deprived of the use is one of the two key elements to the definition of theft. Without it, it's not theft]

“FYI, he doesn’t have an income, is unable to work part-time because animation takes up all of his time and just to let you know, Adobe CS4 costs 4000 or so.”
—————-

really? that’s strange. according to adobe’s website, it costs $200 for students…hopefully karma will come through and he will be negatively affected by copyright infringement in his future career.

By: Courtney

Courtney — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:43:05 +0000

I don’t think the problem is so much a matter of a different way to deliver the medium–music/movies/tv shows but rather the cost. I would rather get something for free than pay for it. I’d rather download music illegally then pay to download it on itunes.

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Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:36:31 +0000

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By: Wolfy

Wolfy — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:31:48 +0000

@66 FLB

FYI, he doesn’t have an income, is unable to work part-time because animation takes up all of his time and just to let you know, Adobe CS4 costs 4000 or so. Plus he wouldn’t have the money anyway to pay for a student discount version, which wouldn’t licence him to create commercial content.

By: Fight_the_Tyranny

Fight_the_Tyranny — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:28:22 +0000

“The video trends survey found that nearly one third of the respondents watch illegally downloaded video.”

I digress. Downloading copyrighted material without distribution is not copyright infringement, and thus is not illegal.

Regardless, laws are irrelevant and should be repealed when the majority ignore them. Copyright and patents encourage monopolistic practises and restrict creative liberties. Abolition is inevitable.

By: Uno de cada tres usuarios de banda ancha descarga contenidos “piradas” : Blogografia

Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:57:59 +0000

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By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:45:47 +0000

@Payed MAFIAA shill:
“roze signed himself up for 217 different accounts and the whole thing crashed…”

As opposed to your multiple accounts?

Pot, kettle.

@Payed MAFIAA shill:
“you shall not steal

- God”

Theft
1. (Law) The act of stealing; specifically, the felonious taking and removing of personal property, with an intent to deprive the rightful owner of the same; larceny.

Cop·y
n. pl. cop·ies
1. An imitation or reproduction of an original; a duplicate: a copy of a painting; made two copies of the letter.

- Dictionary

By: Uno de cada tres usuarios de banda ancha descarga contenidos “piradas”

Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:38:01 +0000

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By: ACTA: Auf Kosten von Konsumenten und Künstlern « 11k2

ACTA: Auf Kosten von Konsumenten und Künstlern « 11k2 — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:59:51 +0000

[...] Was wir hier erleben, ist im Grunde aber ein ganz normaler politischer Vorgang: Einzelne Gruppen versuchen, sich per Lobbyarbeit unfaire Vorteile zu verschaffen, und andere politische Kräfte müssen dem entgegenwirken. Wie? Öffentlichkeit und damit verbundener politischer Druck. Wir konnten zusehen, wie die lächerliche Rauchverbotsdiskussion eine süddeutsche Hardliner-Landesregierung zu Fall brachte, die weit wichtigere Frage eines “Kulturverbots” aus kommerziellen Interessen heraus sollte noch mehr bewirken können. Meine Forderungen: Kein Ausverkauf unserer Kultur an einzelne Firmen, Ende der ACTA-Verhandlungen. (via techdirt, michaelgeist, kei, torrentfreak) [...]

By: Anonymous Coward

Anonymous Coward — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:53:14 +0000

No shit the infamous anti-piracy campaign didn’t work.

The only times I got to see those “you wouldn’t steal” ads, was when I had actually paid $12 to see a stupid movie ONCE on a movie theater.

How the hell did they expect shit like that to work if you’re targeting the customers that are feeding you and treating them like criminals.

The funny thing is that I’d sometimes yell very loud on the theater

“Copying is not Stealing!!!”

By: FLB

FLB — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:40:16 +0000

“What would you do if the postman decided to open all your mail and decide whether or not you should receive it?”
———————-

your mail IS opened if it is deemed suspicious. it’s chemically tested (if something is seen to be leaking through)and drug sniffing dogs are brought in if the package is the least bit suspect. depending on the results of such tests, your package is then opened and examined.

so all in all, great analogy…

“And Adobe CS4 for a friend who is unable to afford it but needs it for animation classes.”
—————

he can afford expensive collage courses but can’t afford the requisite software at the student discount price?

“What happened to IntenseDebate ?”

roze signed himself up for 217 different accounts and the whole thing crashed…

” Sharing is a GOOD thing

– God”
—————

“you shall not steal”

– God

By: dandon

dandon — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:03:40 +0000

9 Feb 04, 2009 at 01:14 by Ethereal
lol

You got to love those surveys and statistics. How many people took part? 1500? lol
15000… shakira: lolo lolei lolei

anyways why aren’t we called neo pirates?
YOU ARE PIRATE?!
no…
YOU ARE!
interesting I didn’t know that about me.

14 Feb 04, 2009 at 02:06 by http://www.10ch.org
who cares if the monetize?
What do you think the prices would be like?

By: what?

what? — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:12:47 +0000

downloading is illegal? news to me..

By: dreamhunk

dreamhunk — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:06:08 +0000

So I wonder if the owner of this site is a console fanboy! where is your proof!

It’s funny when nintendo lost 1 billion to pircay alone to pircay.

It’s is funny game devs talk about pircay on the pc when console lose alot more from.

the use game market
trade games
rented games

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Almost-1-Billion-Dollars-Lost-by-Nintendo-in-2007-78918.shtml

pircay is so bad on console as soon as a game goes gols it’s pirated.

you kow how much is 1 billion right pirated on consoles.

pirates on console make a living of console games.

http://kotaku.com/5127249/elspa-celebrates-first-anti+piracy-raid-of-2009

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makin257 - One in Three Broadband Subscribers is a Pirate — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:51:13 +0000

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By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:23:24 +0000

If they come after me for downloading old TV shows, I say Bring It! The stuff I’m downloading is generally so down-sampled (350MB for an hour or less of footage) I could only play it on the computer anyway, and they wouldn’t have the GUTS to try and actually SELL me something like that. So it’s not a “lost sale” by any stretch. In court, I’d try to play the video on an HDTV in front of the judge to prove my point.

By: justav frank

justav frank — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:10:03 +0000

Actually, in hungary 50% of all users cheat the system or are fake, just like http://www.opentopix.com

By: AvangionQ

AvangionQ — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:30:44 +0000

“Most recently, Ovum researchers surveyed a large group of broadband Internet subscribers who also own a TV, and polled their video download habits. The video trends survey found that nearly one third of the respondents watch illegally downloaded video. Because music and software wasn’t included, it is safe to say that the overall piracy rate among broadband subscribers is even higher.” … sounds about right — isn’t it about time to change the law to suit such a large minority …

By: Wolfy

Wolfy — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:44:17 +0000

@49

I know, cds are woeful. Most tragic was when I had Baldur’s Gate 1 on the original 5 discs, I put Disc 5 into my drive, heard a noise, ejected it and the cd was now in four seperate pieces. And this was after it was no longer on the shelves. Another game I have, Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus, refused to play because the installer “forgot” to install Gameguard, the authenticity program. Not only that, but half the time I do get a game that works on my laptop, the cd drive spins so fast that my computer unexpectedly restarts (not to mention it sounds like a jackhammer, drowning out even headphones on full volume).

By: DJ Sketch@1337x.org

DJ Sketch@1337x.org — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:39:56 +0000

AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH MATEY!!

By: ninja

ninja — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:06:23 +0000

Are the other two ninjas?

By: Welshie

Welshie — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:02:13 +0000

The UK government is busy rolling out plans to make sure that EVERY UK household has access to broadband within a few years. This is part of their stategy to ensure that the UK can keep up with the rest of the world when it comes to IT education, so that more of it’s citizens are able to compete for jobs and contribute to the countries recovery.

If this is sucessful, then the UK economy can begin to stabilize over a period of years.

The music industry, etc wants to initialise a ‘three strike’ system, which will see innocent people being prevented from using the internet (this ranges from those wrongly accused, to the families of the accused who may need the internet for studies, etc).

Therefore, the music industry is in direct violation of the UK governments strategy to help the UK out of it’s recession. Maybe if every broadband subscriber told this to their local MP’s…

@7SeVeN7

I really wouldn’t worry about your daughters attitude to filesharing. It’s common for kids to rebel against their parents beliefs. Just let her find her own way in life and eventually she will come around! All the best to you and your family!

@ every other poster here…

Thanks for the entertaining @ informative read. Makes a nice change from all the usual heavy @ off-topic posts…

LONG LIVE TPB… LONG LIVE TF!

;o)

By: ...

... — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:57:12 +0000

@ Wolfy
I remember my Quake 3 disc basicly exploding in the drive ruining it, only time i bought a new drive, was time for the upgrade to dvd anyway ;)
Images is whats done today, i have tons of originals many with scratched CD’s, my Diablo II cd’s are to full of errors for a install.. C&C errors.. most of those old super great games are worn out.. they dont make games like back then anymore!
D2 1.12 has no-cd so i was thankfull for that, now that i dont play it and my CD’s are broken they add legal no-cd lol, why couldnt they do it before? why cd checks?
Cash milkers ruining legit users grr.. no respect from me!
I think they even tried to develop CD’s with limited lifetime once or something like that.. MAFFIA suckers! no wonder CD’s brake, their designed to..

Installing games with many cd’s can be irritating, often causing damages to the CD’s as you switch them around, lay them under a lamp or whatnot.. what is it 9 cd’s for WoW now? SWG was a few aswell i think, and some RPG’s.. oh Baldurs gate! classic! :P new games realy do suck nowadays.. :(

Plastic discs are dead, give us memory sticks instead ;) something usefull! always loose mine lol!
and no fricking mem-stick-failromtrojanbullshitcrap, or starwarsBSODpcdeathvirus or SONYmalwareRING0hacksortrojans..

thx for being sutch great friends, i need to vent sometimes and its great to have a place to go.. ;)

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By: Wolfy

Wolfy — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:38:16 +0000

At the moment I am downloading Sims 2 iso, because the physical cd’s are wrecked. And Adobe CS4 for a friend who is unable to afford it but needs it for animation classes. Not only that, World of Warcraft (I have the original plus BC discs in front of me but not Lich King, because noone stocks it near me). Not only that, but I am also busy making images of every disc that I own in case the discs end up damaged (might as well fill up the 3 Terabytes of space that I have!)

By: Patrizia Broghammer

Patrizia Broghammer — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:31:40 +0000

“One third of all broadband Internet subscribers worldwide admits to having downloaded movies or TV-shows illegally.”
What they do not say is that the fast connection is very sought of mainly for that purpose.
“Most people do not download copyrighted videos on a regular basis though. The survey found that only 4% of the total sample admitted doing so. ”
Well one always wonders that there are so many stupid’s who risk just on the sake of truth.
Luckily the higher percentage belongs to the ones who know how to shut their mouth…
“You wouldn’t steal…” campaign is a prime example of a failed campaign.
Why should you be ashamed to do in a very small scale what most do at a larger scale?
And I am talking of Bankers, Managers, Politicians.
One steals as he can… with his small or big chances…
“The rise of illegal downloading is clearly a signal that customers want something that is unavailable through other channels.”
And especially something that comes for free…
In a marketing world where what mostly sells is the “special offer” “pay one and grab two”, the “pay nothing and grab as much as you like” sounds beautifully.

“So, should sharing copyrighted material be legalized?”

Where would the fun be? And the profits of the high speed internet providers?
Some may object that content IS NOT KING, but in this case is at least “Queen”.

By: Black Beard

Black Beard — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:28:51 +0000

Ahoy Matiess !!!
:D

By: 7SeVeN7

7SeVeN7 — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:12:08 +0000

@41
well i dont know what it is about her but she`s aginst it, she really doesnt watch much TV, an rarely listens to the radio, owns no CD`s (that im aware of, unless her mother got them for(legally))
her school work is the most important to her ATM.

offtopic: im glad that intense debate BS is gone, i was gettng e-mails from ppl i dont even know that do alot of posting here an personally i thought my addy WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CONFIDENTAL!!!!

By: ...

... — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:02:20 +0000

Legalize it!

By: cmd

cmd — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:23:23 +0000

I think highlander is right. One third is definitely lying about it. So that’s two thirds. Seems about right. Still shocked about the 4% regularly stat though. That won’t be enough.

By: Maffioso

Maffioso — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:11:47 +0000

I worry about my daughter.

Hope she’s not going to buy any CD’s or DVD’s. That would just support the suing and destroying lives that RIAA and MPAA are doing.

It’s not easy being a parent these days, and I fear the day when she will come home with a CD bought in the shop…