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		<title>By: Lphanter</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-540952</link>
		<dc:creator>Lphanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, there.

I&#039;m a long-time Lphant user and still continue using Lphant because...

Even if you are lured to download Discordia&#039;s Lphant 4.0 --and it deletes your temp folders-- you can always uninstall Lphant 4.0 and re-install Lphant 3.51 and keep doing your P2P business as usual.

Nobody forces you to install Lphant 4 and stop using Lphant 3.51, they can *lure* you, *trick* you, *deceive* you... but not force you.

Lphant 4 uses the Discordian DRM-ed network, whereas Lphant 3.51 keeps using the eDonkey network, Kad and bittorrent, the same server list, the same trackers... Everything is still the same with Lphant 3.51.

The banners in Lphant tell you to download Lphant 4.0, but now you know they come from the Discordites, so you just ignore them.

Lphant.com has been taken over, but Lphant 3.51 survives at lphant.com.es and many other download sites.

If you like Lphant, you can still use Lphant 3.51, no problem, just as you can keep using the real Shareazaa.

If the original Lphant is no longer developed and becomes outdated in the future, there are lots of freeware alternatives waiting for you to discover them.

http://www.lphant.com.es/
http://savelphant.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a long-time Lphant user and still continue using Lphant because&#8230;</p>
<p>Even if you are lured to download Discordia&#8217;s Lphant 4.0 &#8211;and it deletes your temp folders&#8211; you can always uninstall Lphant 4.0 and re-install Lphant 3.51 and keep doing your P2P business as usual.</p>
<p>Nobody forces you to install Lphant 4 and stop using Lphant 3.51, they can *lure* you, *trick* you, *deceive* you&#8230; but not force you.</p>
<p>Lphant 4 uses the Discordian DRM-ed network, whereas Lphant 3.51 keeps using the eDonkey network, Kad and bittorrent, the same server list, the same trackers&#8230; Everything is still the same with Lphant 3.51.</p>
<p>The banners in Lphant tell you to download Lphant 4.0, but now you know they come from the Discordites, so you just ignore them.</p>
<p>Lphant.com has been taken over, but Lphant 3.51 survives at lphant.com.es and many other download sites.</p>
<p>If you like Lphant, you can still use Lphant 3.51, no problem, just as you can keep using the real Shareazaa.</p>
<p>If the original Lphant is no longer developed and becomes outdated in the future, there are lots of freeware alternatives waiting for you to discover them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lphant.com.es/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lphant.com.es/</a><br />
<a href="http://savelphant.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://savelphant.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Briggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why you use open-source clients. They&#039;re more reliable and not liable to castration simply because the source code is out there, and people will have copies of the original.

And stealing &quot;for the win&quot; if it means doing what&#039;s right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why you use open-source clients. They&#8217;re more reliable and not liable to castration simply because the source code is out there, and people will have copies of the original.</p>
<p>And stealing &#8220;for the win&#8221; if it means doing what&#8217;s right.</p>
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		<title>By: aaarrr!!!</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-540104</link>
		<dc:creator>aaarrr!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if ever there is a holding co. that needs to be net bombed to no ends.
Discordia Ltd 
ranks high on my list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if ever there is a holding co. that needs to be net bombed to no ends.<br />
Discordia Ltd<br />
ranks high on my list.</p>
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		<title>By: bill174</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-539954</link>
		<dc:creator>bill174</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - Let&#039;s go boost some Twinkies from 7-11 - if those pigs try to stop us, we&#039;ll yell about how they&#039;ve been co-opted by &quot;big food.&quot;

Get a life.  Pay for what you use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; Let&#8217;s go boost some Twinkies from 7-11 &#8211; if those pigs try to stop us, we&#8217;ll yell about how they&#8217;ve been co-opted by &#8220;big food.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get a life.  Pay for what you use.</p>
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		<title>By: Narpy</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-539911</link>
		<dc:creator>Narpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 40 -- &quot;How do you see musicians being able to feed, clothe, shelter themselves, and create more music if no one pays them to do it?&quot;

The same way artists make the majority of their money: touring.  Don&#039;t tell me that they get a ton of money from making albums, I&#039;ve worked at a bar in a hotel and talked to several main stream artists, including Metallica and AC/DC.  The majority of the money they make is from touring.  Record companies make way more off their music than the bands, and the bands rarely see anything from lawsuits.

I fucking steal music all the time.  But I buy CD&#039;s from the ones I like.  Of course, only at their shows or the sites they tell me to, but I still buy them.

Sorry for getting around you as much as possible, middle man.

Also, if they don&#039;t run out of money soon, most bands are producing and distributing their music themselves, anyways.  That means one way or another, the companies are fucked.

Rejoice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 40 &#8212; &#8220;How do you see musicians being able to feed, clothe, shelter themselves, and create more music if no one pays them to do it?&#8221;</p>
<p>The same way artists make the majority of their money: touring.  Don&#8217;t tell me that they get a ton of money from making albums, I&#8217;ve worked at a bar in a hotel and talked to several main stream artists, including Metallica and AC/DC.  The majority of the money they make is from touring.  Record companies make way more off their music than the bands, and the bands rarely see anything from lawsuits.</p>
<p>I fucking steal music all the time.  But I buy CD&#8217;s from the ones I like.  Of course, only at their shows or the sites they tell me to, but I still buy them.</p>
<p>Sorry for getting around you as much as possible, middle man.</p>
<p>Also, if they don&#8217;t run out of money soon, most bands are producing and distributing their music themselves, anyways.  That means one way or another, the companies are fucked.</p>
<p>Rejoice!</p>
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		<title>By: Cyko_01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyko_01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHAREAZA WAS NOT KILLED OFF!

it is alive and flourishing at sourceforge.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHAREAZA WAS NOT KILLED OFF!</p>
<p>it is alive and flourishing at sourceforge.net</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>out of interest, have there been any efforts to spoof p2p downloading from prominent celebrities or politicians?  One sure fire way to cause some absolute carnage would be to get Oprah Winfrey spoofed downloading hannah montana &amp; lost 4 million times - the media shitstorm would be incredible!

obviously that would be illegal. SO DON&#039;T DO IT KIDS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>out of interest, have there been any efforts to spoof p2p downloading from prominent celebrities or politicians?  One sure fire way to cause some absolute carnage would be to get Oprah Winfrey spoofed downloading hannah montana &amp; lost 4 million times &#8211; the media shitstorm would be incredible!</p>
<p>obviously that would be illegal. SO DON&#8217;T DO IT KIDS</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 40 

Who says nobody pays them? There is a rule that most serious fileshareers follow, if you like it buy it .

Bittorrent is simply what would happen If all the people in the world who had CD&#039;s came into one room and started shareing each others music.

Like 41 said barely 10% goes to musicans, I&#039;d prefer if each of the songs was sold indivudaly and recorded by the artist himself and none of the money was going to tose greedy talentless middlemen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 40 </p>
<p>Who says nobody pays them? There is a rule that most serious fileshareers follow, if you like it buy it .</p>
<p>Bittorrent is simply what would happen If all the people in the world who had CD&#8217;s came into one room and started shareing each others music.</p>
<p>Like 41 said barely 10% goes to musicans, I&#8217;d prefer if each of the songs was sold indivudaly and recorded by the artist himself and none of the money was going to tose greedy talentless middlemen</p>
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		<title>By: Quartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@40

It&#039;s great that you think so much of the artists when the fact is they are lucky to get 10% of any revenue, most artists where making music prior to joining a label and most continue after leaving a label, obviously many times wiser although lighter in pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@40</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that you think so much of the artists when the fact is they are lucky to get 10% of any revenue, most artists where making music prior to joining a label and most continue after leaving a label, obviously many times wiser although lighter in pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: musician</title>
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		<dc:creator>musician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you see musicians being able to feed, clothe, shelter themselves, and create more music if no one pays them to do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you see musicians being able to feed, clothe, shelter themselves, and create more music if no one pays them to do it?</p>
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		<title>By: RST101</title>
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		<dc:creator>RST101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 word &quot;UTORRENT&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 word &#8220;UTORRENT&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-539696</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23: Quit fscking lying silorts, you Discordia shill.

It is pretty obvious that is what you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23: Quit fscking lying silorts, you Discordia shill.</p>
<p>It is pretty obvious that is what you are.</p>
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		<title>By: promoting</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-539688</link>
		<dc:creator>promoting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>documentary about copyright

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oar9glUCL0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>documentary about copyright</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oar9glUCL0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oar9glUCL0</a></p>
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		<title>By: thejollyrocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>thejollyrocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a moderated forum, pfft, seems my views were too realistic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a moderated forum, pfft, seems my views were too realistic</p>
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		<title>By: FraNk</title>
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		<dc:creator>FraNk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21

Nice, even have the MS CEO here at TF. Sitting in his ivory tower and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s hard to see the little people from that height. 

STEVE when is enough ENOUGH. Start pricing your sh_t fair so everyone can afford it. And the funny thing is you wonder why the absolute monopoly you run gets targeted. Greed Greed Greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21</p>
<p>Nice, even have the MS CEO here at TF. Sitting in his ivory tower and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s hard to see the little people from that height. </p>
<p>STEVE when is enough ENOUGH. Start pricing your sh_t fair so everyone can afford it. And the funny thing is you wonder why the absolute monopoly you run gets targeted. Greed Greed Greed.</p>
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		<title>By: phishybongwaters</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/p2p-client-does-a-deal-with-the-devil-090310/#comment-539682</link>
		<dc:creator>phishybongwaters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if piracy is so bad for their business then WHY THE F### do they have seemingly limitless funds to do half this nonsense.&quot;

Easy, because all of the funds they get from the lawsuits go right back to the anti piracy outfits, not a single dime goes to the artists.

They are making up for lost income by suing customers, and now, entrapping them, and the money from the lawsuits, the money those poor starving artists lost, goes back to the company suing the customers, and isolating them.

It&#039;s a never ending cycle, and will bring on the end of the music and film industry as we know it today, which is good.  They are digging their own grave, lets give em a hand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if piracy is so bad for their business then WHY THE F### do they have seemingly limitless funds to do half this nonsense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Easy, because all of the funds they get from the lawsuits go right back to the anti piracy outfits, not a single dime goes to the artists.</p>
<p>They are making up for lost income by suing customers, and now, entrapping them, and the money from the lawsuits, the money those poor starving artists lost, goes back to the company suing the customers, and isolating them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a never ending cycle, and will bring on the end of the music and film industry as we know it today, which is good.  They are digging their own grave, lets give em a hand</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the safer choice is always to use an open-source client to connect to PSP2 networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the safer choice is always to use an open-source client to connect to PSP2 networks.</p>
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		<title>By: ista</title>
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		<dc:creator>ista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The source code of the last Lphant version that was released under the GNU GPL (version 1.01) is available on http://uploaded.to/?id=reprp5 (an alternate place for the same file: http://ur1.ca/2azm ). If talented hackers would like to piss off Discordia by continuing from where the initial developer left off, feel free... 

Also, as Matthew Wright told, the real, open source Shareaza still exists at http://www.pantheraproject.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The source code of the last Lphant version that was released under the GNU GPL (version 1.01) is available on <a href="http://uploaded.to/?id=reprp5" rel="nofollow">http://uploaded.to/?id=reprp5</a> (an alternate place for the same file: <a href="http://ur1.ca/2azm" rel="nofollow">http://ur1.ca/2azm</a> ). If talented hackers would like to piss off Discordia by continuing from where the initial developer left off, feel free&#8230; </p>
<p>Also, as Matthew Wright told, the real, open source Shareaza still exists at <a href="http://www.pantheraproject.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pantheraproject.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just don&#039;t use closed source software and you should be fine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just don&#8217;t use closed source software and you should be fine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fuckup</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuckup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hail Eris!
All Hail Discordia!


Eris appeared before me, and spake, saying &quot;At the end of all time,
all the peoples of Earth will descend into the fiery pit of hell.&quot;

And I asked, &quot;Will following your commandments prevent this?&quot; And
Eris spake again, saying &quot;No.&quot;

And I didst weep, for I knew then that I was doomed.

And Eris spake again, saying &quot;Only kidding! I made that up.&quot; I didst
say, &quot;What?&quot;

But Eris was gone, and I drunk from the Tequila bottle once again. 

Fnord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hail Eris!<br />
All Hail Discordia!</p>
<p>Eris appeared before me, and spake, saying &#8220;At the end of all time,<br />
all the peoples of Earth will descend into the fiery pit of hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I asked, &#8220;Will following your commandments prevent this?&#8221; And<br />
Eris spake again, saying &#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I didst weep, for I knew then that I was doomed.</p>
<p>And Eris spake again, saying &#8220;Only kidding! I made that up.&#8221; I didst<br />
say, &#8220;What?&#8221;</p>
<p>But Eris was gone, and I drunk from the Tequila bottle once again. </p>
<p>Fnord.</p>
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