Comments on: P2P-Next Introduces Live BitTorrent Streaming

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:35:01 +0000

How do i get free songs

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:12:42 +0000

What ever happened to Joost?

By: Bardahten

Bardahten — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:09:23 +0000

next to Future

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:00:20 +0000

summer intresting

By: I found that if you feed it a conventional .torrent file (renamed to .tstream) it does stream the content straight from a vanilla BitTorrent swarm. Only problem was my 1 mbit connection wasn't capable of maintaining the required bitrate without buffering

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:21:57 +0000

Anonymous

By: Justin Wiper

Justin Wiper — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:51:49 +0000

Dude that is too cool man, Free P2P.

JT
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

By: John Peckerhead

John Peckerhead — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:48:52 +0000

The BBC had multicast running a short while ago and it worked quite well. Even the participatory ISPs configured their ends to run it, then the BBC… afaik… decided to stop/drop the trial and instead shifted everything towards their iPlayer (which I’ve never used and am just not as interested in). They didn’t even give any notice to trial particpants about its cessation as far as I know which just left everyone scratching their heads. Cu***.

I’d be surprised if this Tribler thing could match multicast for efficiency. Isn’t there already a huge address space (224/3) set out specifically for this kind of usage?

BTW I did try this client, worked OK I guess but consumed a lot of bandwidth for what it was. I could see it getting real expensive if ever used by any significant number of people for any length of time.

By: kupcake_kid

kupcake_kid — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:58:28 +0000

I tried this software out and even on my slow connection there were no pauses for buffering that i normally see on downloading from the BBC servers. The quality wasnt exactly amazing but it was the same as what BBC normally stream. There were only 20 seeds on the system when i downloaded but despite this it was a smooth download. Popular files like new films will have far more seeds than that, so the technology could be used. Also the key factor is that there is backward functionality on the .tstream files (it worked on utorrent), so people could choose whether to watch it now or later.

By: yadayada

yadayada — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:09:23 +0000

Multicast beats torrents hands down for streaming…in theory.
One single stream could serve thousands of subscribers at the bandwidth cost of one subscriber (of course the stream would duplicate at multicast routers as appropriate). IPTV for example runs exclusively over multicast, but only over local networks.

The problem is that multicast in ipv4 networks simply doesn’t work on a large scale such as the internet.

By: k3nt

k3nt — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:36:04 +0000

Sadly it will never be possible to stream at the bitrate of BT until major ISPs choose to upgrade their networks instead of pocket all of the profits. But hey charging 1+ dollars for a gig when it costs about 1-2 bucks to send the average persons monthly bandwidth across the net.

It seems only Verizon cares about advancing their network well most others only care about throttling and charging per gig instead of progressing their networks to advance into the digital age.

Yay for the duopoly system for it is about as effective towards advancement as the USA’s 2 party system of corruption is.(which is why north America is not number one when it comes to the internetz)

By: h33t

h33t — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:29:29 +0000

significantly we see another good reason why networks cannot throttle the protocol

http://www.h33t.com

By: trustt

trustt — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:04:16 +0000

Umm Sopcast PPStream and all of those apps have been up for years… Nothing new here.
http://www.myp2p.eu

By: lol streaming

lol streaming — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:00:58 +0000

streaming ? who cares about streaming ?

I want the files on my hdd, downloaded from my fellow users, and certainly not to give away any kind of marketing data to any company whatsoever.

Privacy istheshit !streaming !

And what next, f’kin’ “targeted” adds in the middle of the shows like on tv ? to hell with that cr4p !

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:35:58 +0000

If the media companies start using this to distribute TV shows, they can save on bandwidth and stop harassing us with ads!

…..Right.

By: Wildclaw

Wildclaw — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:38:53 +0000

“this is actually incredibly wasteful compared to multicast.”

How wasteful? I keep hearing this, and it is understandable if we are dealing with a swarm of 1000000 people.

However, take a more common example, a medium size swarm with say 1000-10000 people spread out over the size of the UK. How efficent is it to use multicasting then? Especially as you still have to deal with the disadvantages such as UDP/packet loss.

By: R

Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:36:13 +0000

I’m all for BT, but this is actually incredibly wasteful compared to multicast. Ironically, ISPs who disabled multicast are now going to be hit with even more data, since there will be packets for individual people, as opposed to packets received by many people.

By: hmm

hmm — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:21:02 +0000

This is just the beginning of what you can do with bittorrent technology, when the world finally embraces it, we will see leaps in technology. Its basically the true dream of networking, everything talking to each other (hopefully securely) and sharing information instantly across the world.

Think about how incredible that is..

By: Jasper van Weerd

Jasper van Weerd — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:51:48 +0000

very positive

By: PoacheR2k

PoacheR2k — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:44:14 +0000

Well, #3, Good old new torrent technology* ^^

This seems very nice, looking forward to it…

*hungers for video quality*

By: Aemony

Aemony — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:53:08 +0000

This seems cool. I want to see this feature in Vuze in the near future.