I don’t think you have thought that very much.

What the video implies is that civilization(community building) is bad.

[Traducción adaptada] "Muchos de los mayores sitios de BitTorrent incluídos Mininova, The Pirate Bay e isoHunt se han unido en una coalición de socios de intercambio de ficheros con el ambicioso proyecto de ayudar a directores de cine independi…

Repeat after me:

Serf…
Wage slave…
Debt slave

Oct 14, 2009 at 05:30 by Anonymous
The RIAA and the MPAA charge millions in managment fees today.
If the P2P community could do it for thousands we could see them morph into the new billionaires of the music and film industries.

“Don’t spend it all in one place.” ;)

Don’t see the problem as long nobody comes here and say what I can share or not with others why should I bother if people want to give him money or not?

http://www.frostclick.com/wp/index.php/2009/10/14/us-now-a-film-about-mass-collaboration-featured-on-frostwire/

We’re hoping to get about 50,000 downloads and some 1500 seeds by next week.

For example, when Hollywood stars (who’re apparently not quite on top of the salary pyramid) can buy entire islands (“private property: Keep off!”) for no more work than your average local nurse or whomever have you, something’s wrong.

Thought it was actually crystal clear what I posted. For starters, I said property is theft, not the sharing of it. Meaning, being able to own and say how intellectual property should be used is ridiculous.

Paying for intellectual goods whether by an stated fee or being begged for donations ala Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails is a load of shite. It should be free, end of story.

Some people posting seem to think that the financially motivated massive film studio is the problem but the also financially motivated but small film maker isn’t. This just doesn’t make sense.

It has to be moneyless P2P or nothing.

support creativity but also:

share-
it’s faire

Jasper100

The problem isn’t the scale of the business, it’s the fact it’s a business at all.

All property, even the independent type, is theft.

It is easy to do so follow my rules.
1.Stop buying any movies new
2.Buy used movies from a local store so you can help out your local economy while ruining Hollywood’s
3.Buy only your fave TV Shows new so you can continue to support the shows you love.
4.do the same for all bigwig music from corporate labels.
5.Fight the rich

http://1000wordsforsale.com/blog/

J.

Make sure that the content providers are able to sell merchandise as well as take donations. Ie T Shirts, Posters etc.

Part of what #19 said:
don’t even have an impact on todays artists incomes and I can prove it, can you prove your statements with solid data?

Like it or not it’s been proven to be *true*
You “Anti” pirate trolls are beating a very dead horse…

@22
I would imagine it has to do with image, slightly, yes…but I do not believe thats all its about…
I really think the majority of the reasoning for doing it is to honestly help these people get their work posted, so I suppose that would be “the point”

The article is stupid to imply the only alternative to bittorrent is “offline”.

I’m sure you can also donate to scene groups or Hollywood studios! Or George Clooney personally to support his career…

If the P2P community could do it for thousands we could see them morph into the new billionaires of the music and film industries. With a more decentralized form of management and distribution that will not endanger economies if one part of the link breaks down.

Nor does the current system that is why they are called ventures like in adventure, you could gain or more likely you could loose.

And that is why I used the term “cut it” and not “guarantee sales”.

By the way P2P have no moral flaws, people have moral flaws but sharing is not one of them and it don’t even have an impact on todays artists incomes and I can prove it, can you prove your statements with solid data?

Why? it doesn’t affect any amateur music or film maker ability to make money, why should people stop sharing?

That’s the fundamental _quality_ of P2P my friend.

If you can’t put food on your table by making films people recognize as valuable contributions to their lives and are willing to support, maybe you should be doing something else.

Business should support the people that run it only if what they do is valuable to somebody. Bad business should vanish, and that’s exactly what does not happen today.

What is flawed is the current content delivery system where you’re expected to pay beforehand to watch crap chosen by people who only want to make you more stupid so you’ll buy more crap without knowing what it is.

I, and many others, would love to give to the makers of the films I love much more than the price of a movie ticket. After all, they’re not only giving me a product, they’re creating the culture I live in and, to some extent, my own personality.

And I don’t like that I have to pay a costly fee to watch some crappy movie from whose makers I would much rather subtract money from, but only having the chance to find out how awful they are after I’ve paid for it.

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Hopefully with time, the content will reach beyond “documentary’s” into other genera’s to interest a wider audience…

But I apologize as I am still stuck with “Old School” belief’s, for example, I dont believe it’s wrong to share what you have with other people, but then Vodo takes care of that as well…

The thing that caught my eye was the statment that a $15 bucks subscription is a kind of cap on what you could make. Instead using cheap $1 dollar or less approach people spend more then $15 dollars a month and the business is supported by the buzz that the great free majority make about your product LoL

Now of course the MAFIAA wouldn’t understand this concept and can only see anything free as blasphemy that should be contained at any cost not realizing that they are only shooting themselves in the foot in the long run and opening themselves to fierce competition from others not counting the fertile ground they are fertilizing with rancor that leads to dissatisfaction, that will turn costumers to other places by the thousands. Basically they are committing suicide and don’t even realize LoL

- Donate.
- Finance.
- View with advertisement.
- Advertise with the creator.
- Got to store.
- More products from this creator.
- Nah view anyways LoL

To bad I’m lazy.

But VODO could make an API so programmer could use it as a base for a plugin that would go to their page and get all the content they want.

Some more ideas to be implemented in the future:

- Micro-investment model. To fund new films and music. Could be like Kiva that is a microfinance system and it works not to mention slicethepie and sellaband that work on the same principals.
http://www.kiva.org/

- Online store. The biggest problem for small artists is a place to sell their goods that have a good infra structure sure they can use e-bay or amazon but it wouldn’t be great to have your products sell along side your movies or music?
Look how the Durian project functions, they not only have a donation button, but also have a store and accept sponsors about the sponsors this is my next suggestion.

- Easy button for sponsor to apply and get their names on the project and contact the creator. Put a button there with all the info necessary to be able to give money and get your name on the product.

Single solutions don’t work anymore, multiple solutions for collecting money is key for the future.

But this iniciative is very good. This will scare a lot of people LoL

Several features of the protocol were designed with this in mind (things like a centralized tracker, the client telling the tracker about the download progress, and even the original user interface which mimicked an Internet Explorer file download dialog).

Good luck, VODO!

:))

The next step is a worldwide foundation which provide support against anti-p2p by means of legal help, massive protests, massive boycotts, etc.