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		<title>By: Ya Yo</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-30681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ya Yo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This page looked like it needed something real.

Most movies I download will be on my digital cable within a few months.  I download several movies each month.  Over time these movies may be watched several times within my household.  Digital cable uses bandwidth too.  That is why using p2p gives a net savings in bandwidth.  It actually costs everyone else less if I download the movie with p2p.  

Why are you people (who don&#039;t use p2p) paying for high bandwidth?  Is it for video?  If you do then you are using the same bandwidth that the p2p users are using.  In p2p you must give back as much as you download or the system collapses.  In other words, you can only download as fast as you can upload.  For a 4.4 gig DVD it takes about 24 hours with an 86 kbps upload limit.  You must also limit the upload stream to about 85 to 90 percent of your capacity for the p2p application to function properly.  

My Comcast digital cable bill is over $174.00 a month.  I pay over $56.00 a month to &quot;Comcast&quot; for my 86kb upstream limit.  I pay more than $2088.00 per year just to Comcast for digital cable and internet.  That does not include going to movies or buying CDs or renting movies at blockbuster video or whatever else.  Rightfully, if I downloaded videos full time they would still owe me money back.  

You should think before you participate in demonizing a group of people because the government and large corporations want you to.  Do you think I am paying my share to the movie industry?  The cable industry?  The Government?  The recording industry?  They all get paid by me so if I want to download &quot;ICE AGE II&quot; over the internet instead of paying extra for it then it is my right.  A right that I have already paid for, even if you don&#039;t know it and even if they don&#039;t admit it because of the industries greed.  

Billion dollar corporations use mind shaping technologies to shape sheeple&#039;s opinions. They give the weak susceptible sheeples a common delusion.  Emboldened by their common delusion this weak minded group of sheeples then impress the delusion on the rest of the sheeples through intimidation, ridicule and other common social pressures.  Believing they are alone, and tired of being assaulted and offended by social pressures, the Sheeple will usually conform.  That&#039;s how they keep the Sheeple working for them and against themselves.  This page is an example of this type of mind control at work.  Only a foolish sheeple would stick up for these very large corporations who are raping the world&#039;s people of resources and deluding them.  All for the love of money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This page looked like it needed something real.</p>
<p>Most movies I download will be on my digital cable within a few months.  I download several movies each month.  Over time these movies may be watched several times within my household.  Digital cable uses bandwidth too.  That is why using p2p gives a net savings in bandwidth.  It actually costs everyone else less if I download the movie with p2p.  </p>
<p>Why are you people (who don&#8217;t use p2p) paying for high bandwidth?  Is it for video?  If you do then you are using the same bandwidth that the p2p users are using.  In p2p you must give back as much as you download or the system collapses.  In other words, you can only download as fast as you can upload.  For a 4.4 gig DVD it takes about 24 hours with an 86 kbps upload limit.  You must also limit the upload stream to about 85 to 90 percent of your capacity for the p2p application to function properly.  </p>
<p>My Comcast digital cable bill is over $174.00 a month.  I pay over $56.00 a month to &#8220;Comcast&#8221; for my 86kb upstream limit.  I pay more than $2088.00 per year just to Comcast for digital cable and internet.  That does not include going to movies or buying CDs or renting movies at blockbuster video or whatever else.  Rightfully, if I downloaded videos full time they would still owe me money back.  </p>
<p>You should think before you participate in demonizing a group of people because the government and large corporations want you to.  Do you think I am paying my share to the movie industry?  The cable industry?  The Government?  The recording industry?  They all get paid by me so if I want to download &#8220;ICE AGE II&#8221; over the internet instead of paying extra for it then it is my right.  A right that I have already paid for, even if you don&#8217;t know it and even if they don&#8217;t admit it because of the industries greed.  </p>
<p>Billion dollar corporations use mind shaping technologies to shape sheeple&#8217;s opinions. They give the weak susceptible sheeples a common delusion.  Emboldened by their common delusion this weak minded group of sheeples then impress the delusion on the rest of the sheeples through intimidation, ridicule and other common social pressures.  Believing they are alone, and tired of being assaulted and offended by social pressures, the Sheeple will usually conform.  That&#8217;s how they keep the Sheeple working for them and against themselves.  This page is an example of this type of mind control at work.  Only a foolish sheeple would stick up for these very large corporations who are raping the world&#8217;s people of resources and deluding them.  All for the love of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ya Yo</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-30676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ya Yo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why they spend millions of dollars to brainwash you instead of shutting p2p down.  They have already been to court and lost.  Now they must change your minds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why they spend millions of dollars to brainwash you instead of shutting p2p down.  They have already been to court and lost.  Now they must change your minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Blogger &#187; Archive &#187; P2P Speeds Cut in Half by Australian ISP</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-20574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aussie Blogger &#187; Archive &#187; P2P Speeds Cut in Half by Australian ISP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Australian ISP Exetel has decided to cut bandwidth for P2P traffic in half from noon to midnight. This move will save Exetel about $45,000 per month, while it only takes $75,000 to implement the bandwidth throttling mechanisms.read more&#160;&#124;&#160;digg story     Posted by Matt Emery in Miscellaneous  &#160;&#160;&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Australian ISP Exetel has decided to cut bandwidth for P2P traffic in half from noon to midnight. This move will save Exetel about $45,000 per month, while it only takes $75,000 to implement the bandwidth throttling mechanisms.read more&nbsp;|&nbsp;digg story     Posted by Matt Emery in Miscellaneous  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HessunKahvila #33 - SpeakersCorner #14 at HessunKahvila</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HessunKahvila #33 - SpeakersCorner #14 at HessunKahvila]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Epistola Uudet MacBook Prot tulivat, mikÃ¤ fiiuwis? SMC FanControl Intel Macceihin iPhone tulossa, vai onko? iPod 5 vuotta MacBook joukkokanteet lainehtii USA:ssa Onko Applen uusi taktiikka &#8220;asiakas testaa&#8221;? Muuttiko Intel Applen hardiksen romuksi? Miksi ihmiset valitsevat Applen? Design, toimivuus, what? Suuri muoti ja design keskustelu Snobit muoti-ilmiÃ¶iden Ã¤Ã¤rellÃ¤ hiplaamassa alumiinia?? Office vs. Open Office iPod (uskonto), Creative ja muut Litteytetty ClickWheel Vertaiset verkot ja Finreaktor Australialainen ISP pudottaa torrenttikaistaleen puoleen Second Life ja Wikipedia ryÃ¶ppÃ¤yksessÃ¤ Suomen virkamiehet vÃ¤syivÃ¤t SinÃ¤Putken siivoukseen YmpÃ¤rÃ¶ikÃ¶ Nokiaa vaikenemisen muuri? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Epistola Uudet MacBook Prot tulivat, mikÃ¤ fiiuwis? SMC FanControl Intel Macceihin iPhone tulossa, vai onko? iPod 5 vuotta MacBook joukkokanteet lainehtii USA:ssa Onko Applen uusi taktiikka &#8220;asiakas testaa&#8221;? Muuttiko Intel Applen hardiksen romuksi? Miksi ihmiset valitsevat Applen? Design, toimivuus, what? Suuri muoti ja design keskustelu Snobit muoti-ilmiÃ¶iden Ã¤Ã¤rellÃ¤ hiplaamassa alumiinia?? Office vs. Open Office iPod (uskonto), Creative ja muut Litteytetty ClickWheel Vertaiset verkot ja Finreaktor Australialainen ISP pudottaa torrenttikaistaleen puoleen Second Life ja Wikipedia ryÃ¶ppÃ¤yksessÃ¤ Suomen virkamiehet vÃ¤syivÃ¤t SinÃ¤Putken siivoukseen YmpÃ¤rÃ¶ikÃ¶ Nokiaa vaikenemisen muuri? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Southanuk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Southanuk Podcast 6</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-16327</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Southanuk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Southanuk Podcast 6]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] P2P Speeds Cut in Half by Australian ISP [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dr Glamm</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-15720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Glamm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um...2 thirds which answered yes I should have said above :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;2 thirds which answered yes I should have said above :P</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Glamm</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-15719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Glamm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is silly - how would 65% of their customers want to change their ISP when probably less than a third uses P2P.&quot;

Actually the article said that 65% of the Exetel customers that took their poll, not 65% of Exetel customers. Market research stats can be very misleading. This was a poll on a forum asking:  &#039;P2P Shaping - Will you leave Exetel?&#039; Well, people who were upset would have responded immediately and that is what you got. 311 people responding, a third of which answered yes.

What really needed to be done here was a random sampling of say 500 to 1000 Exetel customers and pose the question there, albeit wording in a less leading manner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is silly &#8211; how would 65% of their customers want to change their ISP when probably less than a third uses P2P.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually the article said that 65% of the Exetel customers that took their poll, not 65% of Exetel customers. Market research stats can be very misleading. This was a poll on a forum asking:  &#8216;P2P Shaping &#8211; Will you leave Exetel?&#8217; Well, people who were upset would have responded immediately and that is what you got. 311 people responding, a third of which answered yes.</p>
<p>What really needed to be done here was a random sampling of say 500 to 1000 Exetel customers and pose the question there, albeit wording in a less leading manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Then Beginning of the End of P2P?? at yazeez</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-15647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Then Beginning of the End of P2P?? at yazeez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Continue reading here. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jon Doe</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-15605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silly, you sound alot like Ted Stevens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly, you sound alot like Ted Stevens.</p>
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		<title>By: jakamo</title>
		<link>/p2p-speeds-cut-in-half-by-australian-isp/#comment-15568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jakamo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you should get what you pay for .... you buy high speed then you obviously should be able to transfer bigger  files easily! if you dont want to then switch to a slow isp

jeeese you guys need to read economics for dummies...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should get what you pay for &#8230;. you buy high speed then you obviously should be able to transfer bigger  files easily! if you dont want to then switch to a slow isp</p>
<p>jeeese you guys need to read economics for dummies&#8230;</p>
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