Comments on: Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes

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Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:08:23 +0000

[...] Parliamentary Comms Group Says ‘No’ to UK 3-Strikes An increasing death-knell is sounding for Lord Mandelson’s proposals for 3-strikes Internet disconnections. The latest blow comes from the All Party Parliamentary Communications Group. After a consultation earlier this year, they have now published their response, and it’s not one favorable to ‘Darth Mandy’ and his plans. [...]

By: Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) 's status on Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 16:36:51 UTC - Identi.ca

Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:35:10 +0000

[...] http://torrentfreak.com/parliamentary-comms-group-says-no-to-uk-3-strikes-091017/ a few seconds ago from kdemicroblog [...]

By: max davis

max davis — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:28:19 +0000

recent quote…….. “So, it is the government that should help fix this mess on behalf of creators of copyrighted materials which is protected by the Constitution of the U.S. Although our government may have missed this opportunity via the “first edition” Internet they can get it right this time with the “second edition” Internet – Mobile Networks. After all, in time there will be many more Internet transactions done via mobile networks and devices than tethered Internet transactions. Now’s the time to put these measures in place. Can we get some help? DataRevenue.Org has been unsupported in these efforts and its about time we reached out for help from those that are about actions beyond words. Can you hear us now?”

By: UK Parliamentary Group Blames Entertainment Industry For File Sharing Problem, Opposes Kicking People Off The Internet | The-Informer

Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:42:22 +0000

[...] Communications Group — a non-partisan group of UK MPs and Lords — has come out with quite a report damning the idea. It doesn’t just bash the idea of such “three strikes” plans to kick people off [...]

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Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:48:22 +0000

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By: GG

GG — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:00:09 +0000

at the moment the UK electorate have their politicians by the proveriable bollocks over their expenses scandal and bailing out the Banking bastards, they are all up for re-election in an a general election soon, there is no way they are going to alienate the public any further, but wait until after the next GE, especially if the conservatives get in (which is widely expected)and we’ll see if it remains so, the party of business, the tory’s, will bend over for IP protection

By: Today’s headlines, October 19 | fyimusic.ca

Today’s headlines, October 19 | fyimusic.ca — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:01:17 +0000

[...] Parliamentary committee says no to proposed UK three-strike rule [...]

By: fight_the_tyranny

fight_the_tyranny — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:50:05 +0000

While I applause the conclusions of this consultation, it’s unlikely the government will even acknowledge it. Most of the top politicians across all parties are involved in systematic bribery with the big media cartels (especially mandelson). Britain needs a revolution to rid itself of these anachronistic and endemically corrupt systems of governance.

By: Ufa (ufa) 's status on Sunday, 18-Oct-09 22:48:22 UTC - Identi.ca

Ufa (ufa) 's status on Sunday, 18-Oct-09 22:48:22 UTC - Identi.ca — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:46:41 +0000

[...] http://torrentfreak.com/parliamentary-comms-group-says-no-to-uk-3-strikes-091017/ a few seconds ago from web [...]

By: Encore666

Encore666 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:41:32 +0000

@23 you took the words right out of my mouth dude!

Let’s see RIAAsoned mind and his pal neo.shite wiggle their way out of this one! You douchebags are on the loosing side of Monkey Island!

When the revolution comes, you’ll be first up against the wall! Bwahaha!

Aaaarh! Avast mateys, all together now we be singing a shanty for our wee scurvy trolls: “Yo-Ho Yo-Ho And Pirate Life For Thee!”

By: Ninja

Ninja — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:40:27 +0000

Please, copy that everywhere. Print it on your T-shirts, send letters to MAFIAA with that..

“58. We conclude that much of the problem with illegal sharing of copyrighted material has been caused by the rightsholders, and the music industry in particular, being far too slow in getting their act together and making popular legal alternatives available.”

The industry, MAFIAA and merry friends FAIL. And now it is officially recognized they FAIL.

ROFL

By: Cordelia

Cordelia — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:07:21 +0000

The best possible outcome was if the European parliament could pass some legislation that makes it illegal to spy on peoples online habits without a court order and suspicious of a serious crime.

That would essentially legalise torrenting across Europe since no evidence of copyright infringement could stand up in court.

By: Bobe-On (Posting too fast)

Bobe-On (Posting too fast) — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:20:51 +0000

…”Pontius Pilate came to our town
Up to the dockyards to see the
picket line
We asked him to help but he just
turned around
He’s the leader of the union now
Leader of the union
All of our questions he ignored
He washed his hands and he
dreamed of his reward
A seat in the House of Lords…”

From One by One,
by Chumbawamba

By: Bobe-On (Pomped)

Bobe-On (Pomped) — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:14:36 +0000

Our ex-Canadian “communications lord” is in prison.
Doing the pompous ceremonial waggle dance for all the hard-on prisoners perhaps.

Remember him? The guy that ostensibly renounced his Canadian citizenship to waggle in some country club, and then wanted his citizenship back? WTF?

What’s this lord crap anyway? Some kind of members-only pomp and ceremony-fetishists country club?

By: TorrentzBeak

TorrentzBeak — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:04:06 +0000

Just wait til Cameron and his Lord Snooty colleagues get in, Draconian wont even enter into it. If you think Mandy is sucking up, Cameron & Osbourne will be in bed with Big Business against the little Guy. Fines and prison will be in order, no just ACS:Law and three strikes. It’ll be one strike and banned permanently, 6 months prison and about £5,000 fine

By: Cordelia

Cordelia — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:30:52 +0000

Nice one, “All Party Parliamentary Communications Group”

The “three strikes” policy was totally unworthy of a country that is too sensitive to even have a national ID card (you practically never need to show an ID in the UK).

By: Reasoned Revolutionary

Reasoned Revolutionary — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:59:02 +0000

“Lord” Mandelson? who the fuck is this Lord anyway? we peasants should feed him and his enterprise (and the ones of his peers, too)?

By: outlaw

outlaw — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:24:14 +0000

but what will David Camron &co do ???. Join the UK Pirate Party

By: Viktor Huliganov

Viktor Huliganov — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:19:56 +0000

A Britfag would be a cigarette, but all he smokes is coq au vin, or in the back of a car, he’s not fussy.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:02:53 +0000

@FrostyC

“Not a Britfag, but I must say, this is very win.”

Just a fag then.

By: FrostyC

FrostyC — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 05:22:51 +0000

Not a Britfag, but I must say, this is very win.

By: Viktor Huliganov

Viktor Huliganov — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:35:35 +0000

The problem is that Lord Mandy sees himself as precisely that – a feudal lord. He has no serfs, though, so he takes it out on surfERs, instead! He allegedly likes coq, and so he is trying to put us all into penile surfitude.

By: Lothor The Evil

Lothor The Evil — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:18:28 +0000

Darth Mandy? That figures. The anti-pirates are Sith Lords working for the Dark Side.

By: Afficianado

Afficianado — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:44:01 +0000

sorry, @13; M-RES I meant to agree with your well written riposte, you are correct the government decides a stance, commission’s an expensive survey and if it doesn’t fit in with their politic, sidelines it.

By: Afficianado

Afficianado — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:26:59 +0000

@9 “What, you mean like in the way the UK government listened to their drug advisors?”

Add to that – you mean like in the way the UK government listened to the vast majority of their populace over invading Iraq?

Bit different, the populace was not an elected body, the ACMD was, and despite their academically qualified findings, the government chose to ignore the report in order to further it’s own agenda.

By: ahaha

ahaha — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:56:11 +0000

Screw you Mandy. How many times did u leave office & “Return”?

You & Brown were never elected so shove it up ya arse.

You are whats wrong with politicians, you are one corrupt mofo.

U Fail… Just like Labour.

/sry 4 rant.

By: Bobe-On (TF Adverts)

Bobe-On (TF Adverts) — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:14:22 +0000

To the TF advertisers:

-I usually prefer the ‘before’ pictures. ;)

-Nice logos.

-Cute blond t-shirt chick with funny expressions on face

On topic:

Yay!
Hey!
Go Uk!
Net Neutrality
All The Way!

(shrug)
It’s a slow opinion day.

*finds pizza crust on floor, picks up, sniffs, takes a bite*

By: Simplex

Simplex — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:49:05 +0000

great to hear. Now lets see them carry through with some of these recommendations. ;)

By: a signifigantly more reasoned mind

a signifigantly more reasoned mind — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:05:28 +0000

in your face reasoned mind

*throws a pizza crust at reasoned mind*

By: Anon again

Anon again — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:28:16 +0000

But this guy is an elected politician.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson

By: Anon

Anon — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:26:44 +0000

#20

AFAIK the UK democracy features both publicly chosen politicians and some other ones that are not chosen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_England#England_in_the_Parliament_of_the_United_Kingdom

By: Pook

Pook — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:52:42 +0000

Could someone explain to me how Peter Mandelson is in a position of power that enables him to try to pass laws without being elected? From the wiki it seems he is a cabinet minister but not an MP how is that even possible…did they do away with that old fashioned democracy thing after all?

By: Zush

Zush — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0000

Here comes the sun.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:22:43 +0000

good now its time for maderson to be charged with crimes aginst humanity and lock up for the rest of his greed life.

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:59:46 +0000

“If they’re forced to drop it for now, you can be sure it’ll surface again and again in the future”

True mate, they’ll keep pushing till they get what they want.
Still, its good to see people in the government that are doing there jobs for once :D

By: Toysoldier

Toysoldier — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:56:23 +0000

Well … David Geffen is the man who was suing Neil Young for making “deliberately uncommercial” albums. I guess that says it all. No wonder he want’s everyone off the internet so he can control distribution and more or less charge what he wants.

NO .. I’m not a Neil Young fan in any way, shape or form !!!!!

By: DDM1355

DDM1355 — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:55:03 +0000

It’s a shame that commitees like this have absolutely no power in the UK. They can offer “suggestions” that the Government isn’t obliged to follow in any way. They can just completely ignore what is suggested.

What fun it is to live in the UK!

By: anonymouse

anonymouse — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:38:37 +0000

this is very encouraging news for the uk, particularly the point raised that ‘the rightsholders, and the music industry in particular, being far too slow in getting their act together and making popular legal alternatives available’. i still think, however, that what will happen next is going to depend on the amount of money the ‘industries’ are prepared to offer to the necessary number of people to be able to get minds changed. it will also depend on whether the government decides to disregard the report and the views of the ordinary people and do what the hell they like anyway! keeping fingers etc crossed that common sense does prevail!

By: M-RES

M-RES — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:23:38 +0000

@9 “What, you mean like in the way the UK government listened to their drug advisors?”

Add to that – you mean like in the way the UK government listened to the vast majority of their populace over invading Iraq?

You’re spot on of course. They don’t give a toss what ‘advisers’ tell them if it’s not what’s already been decided as policy. Mandy’s ‘dodgy dossier’ on p2p will already have been written. If they’re forced to drop it for now, you can be sure it’ll surface again and again in the future in much the same way as ID cards have done.

By: Miau

Miau — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:24:53 +0000

Perfect! Seconding what #4 said: if you’re reading this, thank you.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:14:50 +0000

Adding to ( comment. Like the goverment really listening to there commander in Afgan?

UK Government is a joke right now!

By: Xcel

Xcel — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:54:00 +0000

Looks like some of them are starting to get a clue…now if only Hollywood did, perhaps they can buy one from Vanna white??

By: Afficianado

Afficianado — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:52:08 +0000

An extremely well-educated and technologically literate group making these recommendations should help carry some weight.

What, you mean like in the way the UK government listened to their drug advisors?

By: SplishSplash

SplishSplash — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:48:58 +0000

Good to hear this! Also, very pleasing to see Ofcom being told to keep advertisers from suggesting speeds that aren’t even possible for some customers.

By: weblamer

weblamer — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:47:36 +0000

I LOVE the remark #58!

Hooray Britain! Lucky you are :)

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:46:59 +0000

“…and we recommend that this approach to dealing with illegal file-sharing should not be further considered.”

Perfect, and to the point.

By: Sendaii

Sendaii — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:09:19 +0000

@Tom Drake: Just about everyone in our government is a dodgy f**ker who should be watched at every turn. Glad to see that at least some of them have sense though.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:52:30 +0000

It is great to see policiticans speaking positively about the net from within the government. If you are reading this, thank you. You each carry a small but valuable pebble to build the road to a socially unified human society.

By: Loonytoad Quack

Loonytoad Quack — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:50:56 +0000

Hear, Hear.

By: Tom Drake

Tom Drake — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:37:36 +0000

…this from a guy that was kicked out of Government what 3 times?

Mandelson is a right dodgy f**ker who should be watched at every turn.