Comments on: Pioneer’s Live Bittorrent Streaming Device

By: Kazelvrx

Kazelvrx — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:18:34 +0000

Hi webmaster!

By: mehearty's

mehearty's — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:21:56 +0000

The P2P-Next project is not open source just a remote port to the API using there servers which will align your content to there business model.

Come on you did not think they would allow you to have access to there source code P2P overlay network did you?…After all the P2P project is backed by media barons.

As for the set-top-box, Thanks Pioneer the boy’s in China will reverse engineer the components for anti-DRPHLEM!

By: BLZeeBoob

BLZeeBoob — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:37:26 +0000

Everything you can find on the internet is already in the public domain, so go get it for free!

Only a wanker or maybe a rich wanker would consider paying for stuff before you’ve even seen it!

Most of what I download is crap, I only find that out AFTER I downloaded it, If I’d paid for it I would be feeling totally ripped off!

It’s really ironic that the BBC would consider using OUR! technology, no doubt for financial gain of their own.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:55:43 +0000

The internet is already a wash with free content that you can download anonymously. The good thing about this is that it is hardware based.

I however prefer fast private downloads using anonymous BT technology like Ning.

Dan
http://filesharing.ning.com

By: Trabb

Trabb — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:54:02 +0000

I agree with post 5.. IF this every takes off (it can’t in alot of countrys, like the UK, our net speeds are slooow compared to most other contrys..), it wil soon claimed that “evil pirates and hackers” are useing it for speading USEFUL files (ie. DRM free).

By: kidTHATthinks

kidTHATthinks — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:07:45 +0000

innovations are always good. and its open source project, so it can be used out of that box, i guess.

By: Meha

Meha — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:14:47 +0000

Nice tech, cheers Pioneer.

Just give us the hardware and we’ll take it from there thanks. No need to spend too much time on the DRM – we’ll have it removed within weeks so that the box will actually be useful.

By: j

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:25:28 +0000

Utter garbage. BitTorrent is not a streaming protocol even with the piece picker hacked. This product will fail.

If you want to replace your cable box then use a protocol built for streaming which carries a QoS payload.

By: oneplusone

oneplusone — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:01:23 +0000

I don’t know, h33t. Perpetrate works fine for me. ;)

By: h33t

h33t — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:48:32 +0000

*perpetuate

By: h33t

h33t — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:39:56 +0000

oops forgot the tag line …

http://www.h33t.com where filesharing means laughing at The Emperor’s New Clothes

By: h33t

h33t — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:37:23 +0000

“Pioneer, nevertheless, made it clear that it will only be possible to access legitimate content with their box”

legitimate content = media cartel content

it is ironic that p2p born out of a necessity created by a media monopoly should be thought of as a vehicle to perpetrate the life of the monopoly

the P2P-Next project is paradoxically designing systems for yesterday’s models. it might appease the sponsors today but they will not receive repeat funding

By: Rekrul

Rekrul — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:33:40 +0000

How exactly do you watch “live, streaming” BitTorrent shows?

Assuming that they can make it download the chunks in order, how are they going to get it to download fast enough to watch it “live”? Half the stuff I download from BT never gets faster than about 50K/s, which isn’t fast enough to deliver a normal-res AVI file in real-time, let alone any kind of hi-def content.

And what happens when there are no seeders and your show gets stuck at 92%?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:45:39 +0000

internet 2 is on the way

By: s2pid

s2pid — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:28:05 +0000

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By: s2pid

s2pid — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:14:00 +0000

One Love People Get Ready.
It’s a bit Moironic to have a company aptly named “Pioneer” to pioneer a technology used mainly by sharing and caring individuals. Fuck it if it it’s a 4th generation implementation of the Bit Torrent protocol.They do a better job of manufacturing Grade A DVD Players.

By: Killer Tree

Killer Tree — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:00:01 +0000

That sounds kind of like my modded xbox…
Great idea though, if they allowed their content to be recieved worldwide and DRM free. I’m sure most people even wouldn’t mind normal commercial breaks as long as they can watch what thay want, when they want it.
The problem I forsee is, right now customers pay for different cable packages for different channels. How will the money work? Do you “subscribe” to different “network” torrent release groups? Do you pay $X.XX per show? Do you pay a flat fee for X hours worth of content a month? Do you simply pay for unit rental?
It will be very interesting to see how this works out, because it is certain that TV as we know it will fade into something “internety”. How was it when people crated pay-per-view? On demand? Is this the next step?

By: http://www.twilightcampaign.net

http://www.twilightcampaign.net — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:44:03 +0000

not really they just want you to use your bandwidth the way they decide…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:38:41 +0000

It’s interesting that television media are working on technologies that will significantly increase their consumers use of bandwidth while internet providers are working on decreasing the amount of bandwidth they allow consumers to use. Considering how many internet providers are also cable providers, this seems like the two directions would conflict with each other.

By: http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/

http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/ — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:35:25 +0000

“Pioneer, nevertheless, made it clear that it will only be possible to access legitimate content with their box “Access to a vast range of on-demand content and broadcast TV in High Definition over the Open Internet is becoming more believable with the integration of 4G P2P technologies into consumer devices,” Mark said.”

It does not matter what they offer – as long as media companies continue their persecution of file-sharers, and as long as they insist on control of what their users can do with it, there is no reason why anyone should support them.