US Pirate Party Endorses Barack Obama
Written by Ernesto on January 03, 2008The US Pirate Party has no candidate for the upcoming elections, but who do the pirates vote for? Barack Obama, and the party strongly urges all its members to support his campaign, and vote for him in the primaries, and later this year in November.
The Pirate Party just published a press release in which they show their support for Obama, and ask their members to support him as well. Obama is indeed the only candidate who’s even been willing to consider copyright change, the others are more interested in protecting the commercial rights of a few. Other than that, he has a healthy view on how to ensure people’s privacy and he values net neutrality.
Andrew Norton, a spokesperson of the US Pirate Party told TorrentFreak: “We believe in democracy, and progress. Since we are not putting forward a candidate of our own, we stand solidly behind Mr. Obama, as he is the only candidate that seems to realize that personal privacy is a right, not a privilege, and believes that copyright is, as the constitution defines, for progress, rather than profit.”
Mr. Obama clearly understands the important role that the Internet plays in delivering information and communications in general according to the US Pirate Party. A great example of this is the speech he gave at the at the Google campus where he said, “I will take a backseat to no one in my commitment to network neutrality.” He later told TechCrunch: “I will prevent network providers from discriminating in ways that limit the freedom of expression on the Internet.” So, no BitTorrent blocking if it was up to Obama, sorry Comcast.
Don’t want to trust on the Pirate Parties? You can do a votematch here if you’re tired of all the campaign commercials and want to base your decision on what the candidates actually stand for.
Note: all Ron Paul comments will be censored ;)
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186 Responses
NEVER trust politicians! they say a lot of things when they are a candidate for something but right after they achieved what they wanted they forget everything they promised.Any president WILL be forced by the industry to do their bidding.
lol ron paul
I agree with that.
I pity the foo’ who don’t vote for copyright change.
Bill Clinton signed the DMCA. And if you wikipedia more recent laws, they are usually generated by democrats. I’ll admit, they have some republican support, but they were generated by democrats. Voting in Obama, a democrat, AKA a big gov lover is not right.
Republicans are for the free market, wouldn’t that be the obvious choice for pirating concerns and net neturality?
not all democrats have the exact same beliefs as others
[quote comment="254765"]not all democrats have the exact same beliefs as others[/quote]
Not specifically, but almost all are pro-bigger government, government regulates more, etc. The more regulation the less piracy will happen. Is the government going to allow bitorrent if they are allowed to regulate it via the net companies?
Bitorrent is allowed because of a free market, and people will switch providers if an ISP blocks it.
In a democrat world, blocking bitorrent wouldn’t take very long. Nationwide.
dont trust politicians, bet you he wont do shit about it either if he gets elected.
It is better to vote for one candidate than spread all votes to many if this one candidate seems like a good choise and the others just alternatives with the same promotion promises.. ‘n’ shit.
Hard to think that the corruption is going to be any lower.
[quote] Bill Clinton signed the DMCA. And if you wikipedia more recent laws, they are usually generated by democrats. I’ll admit, they have some republican support, but they were generated by democrats. Voting in Obama, a democrat, AKA a big gov lover is not right.
Republicans are for the free market, wouldn’t that be the obvious choice for pirating concerns and net neturality?
[/quote]
You really can’t think of it as “Democrats = big government, republicans = small government”.
Look how it has been under bush - that is definitally NOT a small government.
I just had to point that out - I don’t support either/any party, they’re both/all useless.
The US Pirate Party. A hapless group founded by internet-fame-eager minors.
If I voted Barack would get my vote.
[quote comment="254778"]The US Pirate Party. A hapless group founded by internet-fame-eager minors.[/quote]
Hey.. You’re that copyright supporter again.
Hi.
Vote Ron Paul, if you want the free internet!
Hahaha, it’s so cute how Americans think they will get to choose who governs them. That has already been decided for you, now back to your mindless jobs drones. And don’t question your government, otherwise the terrists guna get’cha!!
[quote comment="254760"]
… free market, wouldn’t that be the obvious choice for pirating concerns and net neturality?[/quote]
Are you really sure about that?
The unregulated free market allows corporations to do whatever they want to turn a profit. The most profitable position to be in is that of a monopoly. Monopolies are about control of their customers. The assault on net neutrality is being perpetrated by companies that hold near-monopolistic market share in several areas of the US.
Laws are necessary to protect net neutrality. Do not think for a moment that “free market” means freedom.
[quote comment="254790"]Hahaha, it’s so cute how Americans think they will get to choose who governs them. That has already been decided for you, now back to your mindless jobs drones. And don’t question your government, otherwise the terrists guna get’cha!![/quote]
See.. that’d be funny if it wasn’t true.
You have no choice. Just obey your leaders.
That’s nice and all, but I still think a “Pirate Party” that says on their homepage “We do not support nor condone any unlawful distribution of copyrighted works.” is utterly misleading BS.
Compare that with the Swedish Pirate Party’s declaration of principles:
“All non-commercial copying and use should be completely free. File sharing and p2p networking should be encouraged rather than criminalized. Culture and knowledge are good things, that increase in value the more they are shared. The Internet could become the greatest public library ever created.”
–http://www.piratpartiet.se/international/english
I completely agree, but the U.S. “Pirate Party” apparently doesn’t. They’re trying to get the goodwill and support of filesharers, who they themselves do not support. Fuck that.
I want a REAL Pirate Party in the U.S., not these wankers. I have no problem with a group with their beliefs existing, but the deceptive name is just low. How about “Ivory Tower Party”?
Who is Ron P aul?
What happened to Pon Raul???!
Clinton should have spent 5 years in prison last time imo, Ubama might be good but.. what happened to pon raul?? :’(
anyways hope you get something else then just a new war after this election..
fuck them. vote ron paul.
[quote comment="254794"]Who is Ron P aul?[/quote]
Google and Youtube are your friends.
I could spam alot about the usa (I am from europe, holland) but just want to say, please vote for a good person, than your current president. What a moran is he.
Ron Paul wants to leave WTO. That would be great for all pirates.
[quote comment="254806"]Ron Paul wants to leave WTO. That would be great for all pirates.[/quote]
Not just to pirates. It would be good for the world economy in general. WTO is fucking useless.
It’s a shame that the only ones who have a rat’s chance of winning aren’t the best ones for the job.
Kucinich by all rights should get the nom because he speaks truth to power more so than anyone of them…even that anti-choicer Ron Paul…blech!
Kucinich is the only decent one of the lot.
Too bad Al Gore didn’t toss his hat in the ring. That’s someone I could get behind as well.
[quote comment="254810"]Too bad Al Gore didn’t toss his hat in the ring.[/quote]
You think that one two devils in a row are not enough?
When’s this election thing all happening for you guys?
Can’t wait to see the last of Bush.
What a twit that guy is.
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[quote comment="254793"]That’s nice and all, but I still think a “Pirate Party” that says on their homepage “We do not support nor condone any unlawful distribution of copyrighted works.” is utterly misleading BS.
Compare that with the Swedish Pirate Party’s declaration of principles:
“All non-commercial copying and use should be completely free. File sharing and p2p networking should be encouraged rather than criminalized. Culture and knowledge are good things, that increase in value the more they are shared. The Internet could become the greatest public library ever created.”
–http://www.piratpartiet.se/international/english
I completely agree, but the U.S. “Pirate Party” apparently doesn’t. They’re trying to get the goodwill and support of filesharers, who they themselves do not support. Fuck that.
I want a REAL Pirate Party in the U.S., not these wankers. I have no problem with a group with their beliefs existing, but the deceptive name is just low. How about “Ivory Tower Party”?[/quote]
This is something we have talked over with the US Pirate Party in the past, and the basic reason is, legally, political parties in the US are not allowed to support or condone any actions which is contrary to US law. So, they could say “yeah do it” like the Swedish party does, and thus be excluded from counting as a political party. They can call for the change of the law, they cannot say ‘break the law’. That is one of the basics of US politics. Remember, as anakata has said many times, Sweden is not the USA
Seriously I wish people would actually read or listen to something about Ron Paul, even though some supporters make him look like a major turnoff.
10th Amendment: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
This seems to be the Amendment that most of Washington seems to forget. If we just get back to the Constitution then all will be well.
One more thing… has there been any corporate “pledged” donations from any media company to the Obama campaign? If so, copyright ain’t going anywhere. (Ron Paul accepts NO corporate pledged donations, private citizens only)
Not to rant ;)
no IRS, no income tax, no federal reserve, no money from air, no more illigal wars, more power to the states instead of government, more power to individuals and restored constitutional rights, you will get to keep your privacy, you will get more money in your pockets, internet will be free as would your life…
I thought it was a done deal? is this a joke? its a joke right.. :)
Pon Raul isnt even on that votematch link in the article either, was he kicked to the nuthouse for wanting to get back to the constitution? lol
why would you censor ron paul?
all this time you talk about not censoring the internet and peoples rights and yet, censoring ron paul is blatant hypocrisy on your part.
for shame tf.
Ehhh…Ron Paul is more for Bittorent community then Barack Obama will ever be. You guys should some do some research before you post any candidate up.
Watch this Youtube video and you will see exactly what i mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JojU8HAVxkE
@die?
;) <– sign of saracsm
just a friendly note.
[quote comment="254825"]no IRS, no income tax, no federal reserve, no money from air, no more illigal wars, more power to the states instead of government, more power to individuals and restored constitutional rights, you will get to keep your privacy, you will get more money in your pockets, internet will be free as would your life…
I thought it was a done deal? is this a joke? its a joke right.. :)
Pon Raul isnt even on that votematch link in the article either, was he kicked to the nuthouse for wanting to get back to the constitution? lol[/quote]
It’s nice rhetoric, thats for certain, but it wouldn’t work like that. You want to change copyright? Sorry, constitution says its there for a limited time, and it is right now. life+70 or 95 years, IS limited. It also says ‘exclusive rights’ bye bye fair use.
You know what else isn’t int he constitution? Monopolies and anticompetative practices. You say internet will be free, yet, ron paul thinks its a good idea to remove any incentive to compete. There will be one provider for all. Network neutrality? not under Ron Paul.
One thing is clear, what he says sounds great in theory, put it into practice, and anyone will even a basic high school diploma can see the horrendous mess that will result. I know the lawyers are all for him - imagine the fun there will be when he abolishes the infrastructure built over the last few years. Its a very ‘actions are great, consequences don’t matter’ attitude, and I’m still shocked and amazed that anyone that is legally competant to vote, and old enough to, and is considering Ron Paul, has made it that far without having killed themselves with the sort of shortsighted actions he stands for.
Read your constitution again, there’s nothing about personal privacy at all, or about regulation of companies. With Ron Paul, every day will be Beacon day, on Facebook.
Im not even American and i want to vote for him (ron paul that is), compilation video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzw69lJQizY
[quote comment="254827"]why would you censor ron paul?
all this time you talk about not censoring the internet and peoples rights and yet, censoring ron paul is blatant hypocrisy on your part.
for shame tf.[/quote]
It was supposed to be a joke ;)
We don’t censor anything over here
Don’t take everything too serious
i support everyting Oprah supports :D
[quote comment="254834"]It’s nice rhetoric, thats for certain, but it wouldn’t work like that. You want to change copyright? Sorry, constitution says its there for a limited time, and it is right now. life+70 or 95 years, IS limited. It also says ‘exclusive rights’ bye bye fair use.
You know what else isn’t int he constitution? Monopolies and anticompetative practices. You say internet will be free, yet, ron paul thinks its a good idea to remove any incentive to compete. There will be one provider for all. Network neutrality? not under Ron Paul.
One thing is clear, what he says sounds great in theory, put it into practice, and anyone will even a basic high school diploma can see the horrendous mess that will result. I know the lawyers are all for him - imagine the fun there will be when he abolishes the infrastructure built over the last few years. Its a very ‘actions are great, consequences don’t matter’ attitude, and I’m still shocked and amazed that anyone that is legally competant to vote, and old enough to, and is considering Ron Paul, has made it that far without having killed themselves with the sort of shortsighted actions he stands for.
Read your constitution again, there’s nothing about personal privacy at all, or about regulation of companies. With Ron Paul, every day will be Beacon day, on Facebook.[/quote]
Nice rhetoric, that’s for sure, but you have absolutely no arguments whatsoever to support any of your claims. By taking away the GOVERNMENT incentive for companies to compete, they will be stuck in what was previously known as the free market. Do your research better. Also, I believe that the USA was far better off before the 1913, before the establishment of new slavery system with the non-gold dollar. Moreover, now I’m certain that the USA pirate party is on a MPAA/RIAA payroll.
Obama get’s my vote in the primaries. I hope Ron Paul gets nominated by the Republicans, that way he can get crushed when this little fad is over. Vote Ron Paul - Let’s remove restrictions on big business so they can monitor our internet and choke bittorrent. Let’s get rid of those little things called rights because I really trust corporations with my privacy and security.
Fuck you. I can’t believe you support freedom of expression, and loose copyright laws and still have the nerve to say “Note: all Ron Paul comments will be censored ;)”
Ernesto, you are a disgrace to the entire filesharing community.
I cannot take them seriously ever again. Democrats want to grow government. This shows that the Pirate party has no clue.
@37 & 38
God, you people are retarded. I hope you get Hillary Clinton, and end up dying in Iran.
The pirate party can go fuck it’s self if they want me to vote for him. There are more important issues then copyright law if you even buy what he says in the first place.
El Diablo, Ron Paul is completely against monitoring and collecting privacy information by companies/CIA and lobbying, unless you agree to it and in national security situations.
@ 38, your an idiot.. seriously..
Paul needs to be Obama’s running mate. The worlds will bow down to them if this happens.
google ron paul
obama / paul would never work out, one is big gov’t the other is small gov’t. that’s what used to be the main difference between repubs and dems
damn dichotomies…
once again, google ron paul
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/
or better yet, get his book
http://www.amazon.com/Mises-Austrian-economics-personal-view/dp/B00071O3BO
i think it should be required reading in highschool economic classes.
[quote comment="254823"]This is something we have talked over with the US Pirate Party in the past, and the basic reason is, legally, political parties in the US are not allowed to support or condone any actions which is contrary to US law. So, they could say “yeah do it” like the Swedish party does, and thus be excluded from counting as a political party. They can call for the change of the law, they cannot say ‘break the law’. That is one of the basics of US politics. Remember, as anakata has said many times, Sweden is not the USA[/quote]
Where do you read “yeah do it” in the following?
“All non-commercial copying and use should be completely free. File sharing and p2p networking should be encouraged rather than criminalized. Culture and knowledge are good things, that increase in value the more they are shared. The Internet could become the greatest public library ever created.”
It doesn’t even say “we encourage you to…”, it says “…should be encouraged”. Are you telling me that that philosophy is illegal for a U.S. party to express? Calling for change in the law is exactly what it’s doing!
Compare the U.S. Pirate Party to the U.S. Marijuana Party (http://www.usmjparty.com/). They don’t say “yeah do it”, but they don’t say “don’t do it, it’s bad” either, and they’re not shy about the fact that the party is for those who do it:
“WE feel it is time for the 12 million Americans who smoke marijuana on a regular basis to stop hiding their love for this plant and unite as one large body of voters to demand an end to the unconstitutional prohibition of marijuana and the drug war.”
How many million Americans infringe copyright law on a regular basis? Almost all of us, even those who have never TOUCHED P2P (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071119/015956.shtml), and probably well over 12 million Americans pirate. Even if we accept the insane idea that a party can’t opine for laws to change, which is all the Swedish declaration does… What the hell law is it that says you have to insult the very people who might support you? “Hey everyone, here’s a link to torrent the latest DVDscreeners” and “Filesharing is bad” are NOT the only options.
The Piratpartiet declaration doesn’t encourage unauthorized sharing of copyright works, either, but neither does it go out of its way to condemn people who do. You say there’s a law that a U.S. party must do the latter? I don’t buy it. The USPP’s condemnation of actual piracy makes them out to be either cynical manipulators or idiots. Either way they’re bad at what they do.
“@ 38, your an idiot.. seriously..”
Your a hypocrite to support loose copyright laws yet at the same time stifle freedom of expression.
Since when was the Economy better in 1913? It was bloated and just on the verge of collapsing…which it did. The Constitution also Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce, ie, pretty much any big business. Granted, the commerce clause is stretched to most retarded things I’ve ever seen (see Wickard v. Filburn) it actually does cover a lot.
they’re ALL horrible, horrible options.
Ron Paul supports net neutrality. He hates big government and big business, which are the one threatening privacy. Obama is questionable, he’s not a consistent voter.(Obama believes in the popular thing right now.) Ron Paul is a consistent voter. Ron Paul believes in leaving people alone and letting them do whatever they want with no government in the way. He wants to pull back our bases out of 120+ countries, which is good for US and the world. There is a reason a lot of people hate the US. We used to promote democracy, and now we’re an imperialist empire. It’s time to go back to how we used to be.
[quote comment="254865"]”
Your a hypocrite to support loose copyright laws yet at the same time stifle freedom of expression.[/quote]
lol? ive done neither u troll ;) ive exercised freedom of expression by calling you an idiot for not noticing the sarcasm.
granted i suck at english so perhaps your comment was some kind of wierd sarcasm in itself.. :P
anyways back to topic, whatever new president u guys get i hope he(or she) will be a good one.
hopefully you wont get new wars, worse economy, less individual privacy and freedom..
@41 Most intelligent comment yet
[quote comment="254834"][quote comment="254825"]no IRS, no income tax, no federal reserve, no money from air, no more illigal wars, more power to the states instead of government, more power to individuals and restored constitutional rights, you will get to keep your privacy, you will get more money in your pockets, internet will be free as would your life…
I thought it was a done deal? is this a joke? its a joke right.. :)
Pon Raul isnt even on that votematch link in the article either, was he kicked to the nuthouse for wanting to get back to the constitution? lol[/quote]
It’s nice rhetoric, thats for certain, but it wouldn’t work like that. You want to change copyright? Sorry, constitution says its there for a limited time, and it is right now. life+70 or 95 years, IS limited. It also says ‘exclusive rights’ bye bye fair use.
You know what else isn’t int he constitution? Monopolies and anticompetative practices. You say internet will be free, yet, ron paul thinks its a good idea to remove any incentive to compete. There will be one provider for all. Network neutrality? not under Ron Paul.
One thing is clear, what he says sounds great in theory, put it into practice, and anyone will even a basic high school diploma can see the horrendous mess that will result. I know the lawyers are all for him - imagine the fun there will be when he abolishes the infrastructure built over the last few years. Its a very ‘actions are great, consequences don’t matter’ attitude, and I’m still shocked and amazed that anyone that is legally competant to vote, and old enough to, and is considering Ron Paul, has made it that far without having killed themselves with the sort of shortsighted actions he stands for.
Read your constitution again, there’s nothing about personal privacy at all, or about regulation of companies. With Ron Paul, every day will be Beacon day, on Facebook.[/quote]
Obviously not just the constitution will be followed. Ron Paul is against monopolies and big business. Government will step in to stop big business domination, but the need to do so is not often. 1 time in 100 years…during Katrina oil companies abused prices.
Privacy laws will always be in effect, and even more so with Ron Paul.
And what the hell do you mean anti competitive? Free Market works by greed and competition. Ron Paul promotes Free Market with making sure no 1 big business has monopoly. He is very against socialist ideas. You are very confused, sir.
Well this shows what a joke this “pirate party” is…
supporting a CFR member and open globalist..
Anyone wonder where Barak Hussein Obama (really) got all his money to buy a senate seat a few years ago, coming out of nowhere?
This guy is another stooge of the corporate/global system of tyranny.
There is only one hope for America: RON PAUL
Fuck Obama. Ron Paul is the way to go.
[quote comment="254892"]Ron Paul supports net neutrality.[/quote]
Ho Voted against it. He also said on G4, quote” I don’t really understand all of these thigns anyway”
He’s all for deregulation, well, that just means whoevers got the most money wins.
however, thanks to all the debate this has generated, stay tuned to hear more from the Pirate Party about why Obama, and why not Paul
Are all you fucks that are suporting this dickwad blind? Did i hear a yes? Then allow me to explain it like you’re a 2 year old (thanks Denzil):
Copyright is the hottest issuse right now. Many fuckin’ asshole candidates wil spout the “well maybe we could look at it again” argument for the sake of the dumb fuckin’ voting public. Sure they will consider it…but only until you’ve voted…then….fuck you….they’ll either say “We looked at the issue and decided we are satisfied with the way things are” or they’ll simply ignore the issue altogether. It’s just one more way for greasy corruption riddled fuckers to get into power. Hey, trust me, if they could get away with saying “Tell you what…you vote for me and i’ll make food, booze and cigarettes free” they’d fuckin’ do it without batting a god damned eyelid. Because my dear blinded friends it would make you all run to the voting stations like lemmings to a fuckin’ cliff. Here endeth the lesson….
I vote for Barack
http://www.postonfire.com
Ernesto, you might want to take out the “All Ron Paul comments will be censored ;)” or add “just kidding”… Even with the smiley, it appears to be too subtle. A lot of people are under the impression (whether right or not) that the U.S. media are suppressing Ron Paul, so I guess you struck a nerve.
Other than that, while I disagree with the USPP (and my second comment on that is “awaiting moderation”, which seems to happen semi-randomly), I continue to appreciate your reporting, so keep it up. :)
[quote comment="254760"]Bill Clinton signed the DMCA. And if you wikipedia more recent laws, they are usually generated by democrats. I’ll admit, they have some republican support, but they were generated by democrats. Voting in Obama, a democrat, AKA a big gov lover is not right.
Republicans are for the free market, wouldn’t that be the obvious choice for pirating concerns and net neutrality?[/quote]
perhaps you are not aware that the monopolies the free market naturally gravitates toward (RIAA, MPAA, AT&T, etc.) are the ones that are doing these things. less regulation would not help that situation.
also the largest government expanses have happened under republican management.
Wrong candidate for the Job. He promises LESS internet freedom then Ron Paul. Don’t believe me, look it up.
barack is part of the CFR….
RP is for small government…
how does this make sense fore a pirate party?
Well all I can say is, I don’t trust ANY democrats anymore. See here:
http://www.equaljusticeproductions.com/servlet/the-1/Hillary-Uncensored-Clinton-Peter/Detail
[quote comment="254940"]Well all I can say is, I don’t trust ANY democrats anymore. See here:
http://www.equaljusticeproductions.com/servlet/the-1/Hillary-Uncensored-Clinton-Peter/Detail/quote
http://www.hillcap.org/default.php?page_id=2
ummm… Too be honest, I’m all for internet freedom and shit, but there are more important issues to vote on, like human rights in America. No matter how much is put against internet pirates, we’ll find a way to beat what’s in front of us, we’re the more intelligent people and can easily (comparatively to in real life) get past anything set up to stop us. I think a more important issue would be the rights of gays, lesbians, trans, etc. because those things can’t really be easily overcome without a revolution, and with all the ultra-conservatist-Christian-nutcases, that’ll be hard to do.
Guys, Ron Paul has mentioned that he would make sure that communications companies should not be able to restrict their customers traffic.
Obama’s vague statements are just more politician-speak. Ron Paul is the only candidate that ALWAYS backs up his words with his voting record.
I contributed to his campaign even though I live in Canada, because right now there is a real chance of the first honest US president in decades and that is good for Canada and the world(and pay no attention to the fact that the Corporate Media is purposefully ignoring him, he has a real good shot this year with mass internet access and people being able to find out the truth for themselves)
If only there was a politician like that so that I could be bothered to go out and vote.
Sigh…….
Ron Paul….
[quote comment="254846"]Nice rhetoric, that’s for sure, but you have absolutely no arguments whatsoever to support any of your claims. By taking away the GOVERNMENT incentive for companies to compete, they will be stuck in what was previously known as the free market. Do your research better. Also, I believe that the USA was far better off before the 1913, before the establishment of new slavery system with the non-gold dollar. Moreover, now I’m certain that the USA pirate party is on a MPAA/RIAA payroll.[/quote]
You are correct. I wish more people would actually do some research.
Ron Paul is pro ‘net neutrality’? How can anyone say that? Do some fucking research. He has stated explicitly that he isn’t. He believes that the internet shouldn’t be regulated by any means. He is consistent in all of his stated beliefs, and his voting record in Congress for 10 terms speaks for itself. No candidate is more honest or forthright than Ron Paul.
RP ‘08
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
Fuck Ron Paul. He’s a racist, neo-nazi coddling, nut-job.
He’s also fiercely pro-forced-childbearing and an evolution denier who believes that the earth is only 6,000 years old.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton accept money from RIAA lobbyists. You want a real president? Vote Dennis Kucinich and bring our troops home.
69: Lies, lies and more lies.
Fuck Piracy! You Are All A Bunch Of Fucking Thieves! And Fuck Voting For Niggers!
VIVA LA GFY.COM
OBAMA JUST WON!!!
OOOOHHH YEEEAAAH!!
Dr. Ron Paul is by far the least heard and best candidate in the running.
dk’s claims are just outright false. Dont you realize that when you present an arguement that you have to have EVIDENCE and FACTS to support your claims, dk?
So, with that being said, where are your EVIDENCE and FACTS that Dr. Ron Paul is a ” racist, neo-nazi coddling, nut-job.” ???
Oh and by the way, Im quite sure his supporters would like to know where you got the idea that ” He’s also fiercely pro-forced-childbearing and an evolution denier who believes that the earth is only 6,000 years old.” seeing as how ABSOLUTELY NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING MEDIA EMPIRE WOULD LET THEM ON THEIR SHOW OR EVEN CONSIDER HIM TO BE MENTIONABLE IF HE EVEN MUTTERED ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES THAT STATEMENT!
You are a fool beyond comparison, dk.
@ ernesto
i guess ill just have to develope a sense of humor then ;)
@ * ( #43)
ill die in Iran right after you lick the saltiest part of my nutsack and wash it down with a nice cold glass of bleach, you whimpering bitch.
Vote for Pon Raul, not Obama.
Press: Obama did you bittorent that movie?
Obama: I did, but I didnt inhale.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Where did the pirates go wrong?!
The obvious pirate choice would be ron paul!
He is the most renegade out of all of the candidates.
por que?!
Oh God.. You guys have to wait until November before you can dump Bush into the ocean?
I think Ron Paul would be awesome from the conservative libertarian (which he is) point of view. I do like his support of deregulation of the internet. But he goes to far when it comes to deregulating everything. He wants to put our country back to where it was before the great depression. I believe that this would both have very positive but also very negative effects. I believe in working with regulation in order to promote growth. Regulation that considers the little guy instead of the rich is what I favor. Ron Paul is sort of the opposite of what the republican party is today. But he does hold up what I like about the republican party. I would vote for him if I was a republican. I welcome the change really.
I think Ron Paul would be best for the states right now.
[quote comment="254940"]Well all I can say is, I don’t trust ANY democrats anymore. See here:
http://www.equaljusticeproductions.com/servlet/the-1/Hillary-Uncensored-Clinton-Peter/Detail/quote
Thats a bunch of hogwash. Politicians are always going to be just that, politicians. If you think any of the candidates were any more innocent then Hillary, then you are deadly mistaken. Just because she is in the public eye more then all the rest combined, does not make her a bad person.
Want to reform the US government and get politicians who aren’t just puppets for the various corporations? Pass a law that special interest groups are no longer allowed to donate to a particular politician’s campaign. Instead, all donations will go into a pool that will be divided eually between all candidates.
Remove the incentive to give corporations everything they ask for and watch how fast the government stops bending over for them.
Of course, such a thing will never happen since the current system is much too corrupt to ever allow any real change.
As for this particular election; It really doesn’t matter who the people vote for, since the American people do NOT actually elect the president. The Electoral College elects the president and although they usually follow the wishes of the people, there’s no guarantee that they will.
The way I see it, history is going to be made this year. The US will either end up with the first black president or the first female one. Anyone who thinks Ron Paul has a chance of winning is delusional.
[quote comment="254760"]
Free Market works by greed and competition. Ron Paul promotes Free Market with making sure no 1 big business has monopoly. He is very against socialist ideas.[/quote]
I don’t know a single thing about Ron Paul (except that voting for him would be akin to not voting at all because your vote will have been wasted on a candidate who has no chance to win). But the truth is that people who destroy monopolies are highly socialist because they seek to nationalize production by taking it out of the hands of a few and putting it into the hands of the many.
Destroying monopolies does not necessarily promote free market; it only promotes the public interest in a market by increasing consumer knowledge.
[quote comment="254782"][quote comment="254778"]The US Pirate Party. A hapless group founded by internet-fame-eager minors.[/quote]
Hey.. You’re that copyright supporter again.
Hi.[/quote]
A different opinion automatically written off as a copyright supporter.
Go see if dinner’s ready. Your mom just called.
[quote comment="254790"]Hahaha, it’s so cute how Americans think they will get to choose who governs them. That has already been decided for you, now back to your mindless jobs drones. And don’t question your government, otherwise the terrists guna get’cha!![/quote]
Banned for life!
[quote comment="255016"][quote comment="254782"][quote comment="254778"]The US Pirate Party. A hapless group founded by internet-fame-eager minors.[/quote]
Hey.. You’re that copyright supporter again.
Hi.[/quote]
A different opinion automatically written off as a copyright supporter.
Go see if dinner’s ready. Your mom just called.[/quote]
Nope.. it’s not ready.
I can keep on typing away on the internet.
Mom thinks you’re funny.
The Pirate Bay made a major mistake by endorsing a candidate.
Don’t get me wrong, I agree with every single one of the reasons Pirate Bay made for endorsing Obama, however, let’s not forget who the media gatekeepers are.
The candidates who Hollywood, the press, and other media outlets like are the ones who get the most favorable timeslots, coverage, and interviews. A Pirate Bay endorsement is enough of a reason for the media outlets to throw a monkey wrench into Obama’s campaign.
So while I agree with them wholeheartedly, I REALLY wish they kept quiet.
[quote comment="254975"]Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton accept money from RIAA lobbyists.[/quote]
There is a difference between money being given, and money being accepted. Check the FEC filings, you’ll see that Obama has returned their money.
Pirate bay? Pirate party is what you mean 85.
[quote comment="255022"][quote comment="254975"]Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton accept money from RIAA lobbyists.[/quote]
There is a difference between money being given, and money being accepted. Check the FEC filings, you’ll see that Obama has returned their money.[/quote]
Why does everybody automatically assume that if you accept a gift that you owe that person a favor. If people gave me money for no reason I would take it. I do not believe to be good you need to be selfless. If you think of an RIAA made media torrent as a gift, then most of us here have already accepted gifts from the RIAA.
And dammit, enough with all the Ron Paul bullshit! He’s not the next Jesus Christ, people!
The only reason why so many blogosphere nutbars support him is because it’s in vogue to do so.
ron paul likes boy butts
Lmao @ all r0n p@ul comments will be censored. Obama ‘08!!!
[quote comment="255041"]ron paul likes boy butts[/quote]
Nothing wrong with liking men, if they’re old enough to consent. But i digress, he’s pretty Christian, and more Christian than most Catholic priests, so I don’t think he likes it up the butt. But that’s why I wouldn’t vote for him. Personally LGBT rights are more important at the moment than destroying the RIAA and what not through politics, we can at least wait another 4 years for that to happen, or let them run out of business in enough time.
get RP out of your heads, he hasnt a shot in hell of winning.
anyways, great article, TF, i’ll be looking into this more. thanks.
[quote comment="254795"]Clinton should have spent 5 years in prison last time [/quote]you ARE aware that this is a different clinton, right?
The last thing we in this FU country of ours is a Muslim portraying himself as a Christian to be running things. Did someone forget what happened 6 years ago? Get your heads out of your asses, there is only one clear choice, Fred Thompson. Right now we need someone that doesn’t screw around and Mr. Thompson is the clear choice. But if your an idiot you go right ahead and make that call.
What’s hilarious is the amount of people on the internet who blindly follow every word Ron Paul says and call everybody who happens to not like Ron Paul an idiot, stupid, etc.
Please continue, this is a good laugh! :D
Ron Paul would make it more safer for torrents to exist freely and without punishment.
I don’t believe the RIAA is good enough for the constitution.
[quote comment="254767"][quote comment="254765"]not all democrats have the exact same beliefs as others[/quote]
Not specifically, but almost all are pro-bigger government, government regulates more, etc. The more regulation the less piracy will happen. Is the government going to allow bitorrent if they are allowed to regulate it via the net companies?
Bitorrent is allowed because of a free market, and people will switch providers if an ISP blocks it.
In a democrat world, blocking bitorrent wouldn’t take very long. Nationwide.[/quote]The republican party isn’t even republican these days. The Bush administration is promoting “bigger government” far more than any previous democractic administration has.
Quite amazing but I think U.S. Pirate PArty have good reason to give support to the Obama. Maybe he will make some good things and really try open U.S. to the other world (when bush is bushing it inside to bush… from back side…)
NO MORE BUSH NO MORE BUSH NO MORE BUSH!!11
HahahHAhHAhHA!
[quote comment="255100"]What’s hilarious is the amount of people on the internet who blindly follow every word Ron Paul says and call everybody who happens to not like Ron Paul an idiot, stupid, etc.
Please continue, this is a good laugh! :D[/quote]
What is wrong with Ron Paul? Seems like you’re blindly saying something negative without anything to back up your claim. Good Job.
[quote comment="254760"]Bill Clinton signed the DMCA. And if you wikipedia more recent laws, they are usually generated by democrats. I’ll admit, they have some republican support, but they were generated by democrats. Voting in Obama, a democrat, AKA a big gov lover is not right.
Republicans are for the free market, wouldn’t that be the obvious choice for pirating concerns and net neturality?[/quote]
Just because they’re democrats doesn’t mean they think and are the same, there isn’t just two kinds of people.
something telse me this guy Barack Obama will do a great job if he is president.
And when i hear bush talk i only hear lies and secrets, but when this guy speaks it feels like he realy wants to change/help america.
I say… Barack Obama For President. !
[quote comment="254892"]Ron Paul supports net neutrality. He hates big government and big business, which are the one threatening privacy. Obama is questionable, he’s not a consistent voter.(Obama believes in the popular thing right now.) Ron Paul is a consistent voter. Ron Paul believes in leaving people alone and letting them do whatever they want with no government in the way. He wants to pull back our bases out of 120+ countries, which is good for US and the world. There is a reason a lot of people hate the US. We used to promote democracy, and now we’re an imperialist empire. It’s time to go back to how we used to be.[/quote]
Did you know the real reason why Osama Bin Laden hates America amnd wants to attack it so bad, because Satan is controlling America now, when the CIA Trained Osama Bin Laden to fight those Russians (used Osama for selfishness) and after that we just left Iraq and never helped rebuild the country.
People need to understand Osama was just angry because Our Evil Empire country used him to stop Russia, we used Saddam too.
Our country keeps harassing and using people all around the world, no wonder why Americas the most hated country in the world.
We need Ron Paul, we need better leadership or else one day America could get nuked because whatever goes around comes around and if America keeps harassing people in other countries who DID NOTHING to Mr Bush, or his country, I bet one day every country and it’s peoples gonna hate us.
The hate keeps going everytime Bush Harasses innocent people, and hurts and kills people.
Stop using people that could become dangerous terrorists.
@TheOneX
Dude, try reading the post about how utterly screwed you guys are. Free elections you say? I’d say you have as much freedom as a rat in a cage.
That said though, Obama is probably your best hope for at least a little change. But don’t go and cry your heart out when he forgets his promises, his tied up to big business just like the others. A pawn in their game.
108:
“but when this guy speaks it feels like he realy wants to change/help america.”
Congrats, you’ve been bamboozled!
obama is much more skilled at lying to your face than shrub err bush.
Ron Paul is a real man, not a puppet like these other scum!
All these years of lying and deceiving by presidential candidates and presidents have made every potential do-gooder a lyer and deceiver too.
Jesus Christ, cynicism alley over here.
Stupid inbred americans, fuck off with parties & politicians, kill’em all
The censorship of comments concerning 1 particular candidate shows the disgusting bias here.Is typical tho of todays status quo of cronyism.
There is ONLY ONE candidate that is for the people and Obama is NOT the one.
Constitution > Government
Can we please get back to they way is should be?
It is time for rEVOLution!
the most heated comments page on TF that i had ever seen :D
In case you haven’t noticed, Republicans are trying to restrict user freedom on the Internet, and give full control of access to the big telecom companies. The Democrats believe (like republicans) that content/intellectual property owners must be protected and compensated for their use. But, only republicans are trying to restrict our freedom to access any server on the Internet. This is fact, not fiction, and no amount of talking-points and spin can conceal this truth.
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The kind of change and unity that Obama is offering is not the kind that this country needs. Everything comes with a price to it, look at his proposed methodology, look at his voting record and look at the stances he’s advertising. Are they good for the county? (Never mind the world is he and what he stands for good for the country? The rest of the world is NOT part of the process)
Any party lending support to a candidate that condones another round of amnesty for illegal aliens or one that ignores the problems caused by the sanctuary cities that have begun to act as city states; have either not looked at the big picture or they have their own agenda. I’m thinking that perhaps these pirate party member are actually Democrats in disguise. Otherwise they would have recognized Ron Paul for his record. Rather than some wet behind the ears not even a completed term under his belt.
As for my personnal selection, it’s neither of the two mentioned.
Dr. Ron Paul says this on Internet regulations:
“I don’t understand all those problems that we face, although the point I make is I have a healthy disregard and fear of the bureaucrats doing it because once you do that, those big companies are going to regulate, they’re going to be the lobbyists and the politicians that regulate the law, and I think you’ll be in worse shape.”
Which is what we already have so he is correct!
I like Kucinich and Obama too, but think we need Ron Paul at this time.
Gov’nt in the US has become bloated and useless!
does anyone else see the irony of an article pretty much talking about freedom and democracy closing with “…comments will be censored”?? lmao
I’m not American but all I can say about your now ongoing elections is don’t vote for Clinton I think she’ll start off a bit better than Bush and then just get a whole lot worse…
If somehow Barack wins then i think it’ll be a stale term with no real change either way….
I also know you have some Religious nut-jobs who get a lot of faith votes and may do ok which is bad as they’ll force or try and force their beliefs into laws…
Also since I use the internet a lot I Know of Ron Paul and FFS vote for him! at least do some research on him/everyone else(real research) Especially since he gets basically ignored.
One last thing it’s people who say something like: “Oh he’ll never win so don’t waste your vote” that’ll help them not win if you all just stuck to your guns and don’t budge the votes go up they’d get recognized and possibly more people would join. …you never know…
SUP WORDFILTERS TO RON PAUL
GO OBAMA!!!
Umm…. In before Umm…. Fail?
Let’s see…
1) Obama admitted to cocaine use
2) Obama wants to step up the drug war, especially in Louisiana.
So.. Obama wants people like himself to be arrested and put in jail?
HYPOCRITE
Lessig backs Obama. Nuff said.
No politician is going to fix our copyright laws. Politicians become corrupted by money from the media companies. Any change that occurs has to occur outside the system.
Wow, I am really disappointed in the Pirate Party. Why would they support this liar who wants bigger government and has said he will not bring our troops home?
The only clear choice for an honest president who will clean up america is Ron Paul.
So much for the pirate party, as others said this really does show they don’t have a clue.
That votematch link you put at the end of the article does not include Ron Paul.
wrong choice
Obama is the right choice.
He was against the Iraq war from the beginning.
On the climate change issue, he just has the right attitude
The Pirate Party supports him, that shows how pirates are smart.
:p
[quote comment="255497"]Obama is the right choice.
He was against the Iraq war from the beginning.
On the climate change issue, he just has the right attitude
The Pirate Party supports him, that shows how pirates are smart.
:p[/quote]
climate change
what a retard. drink Algores koolade if you want. Militant environmentalists are just where the commies went when they were no longer relevant.
[quote] The Bush administration is promoting “bigger government” far more than any previous democractic administration has.[/quote]
I have to agree with you here. He has way out spent democrats too, and the repubs pissed away their majority, and made no real changes. Its all very sad :(
[quote comment="255497"]Obama is the right choice.
He was against the Iraq war from the beginning.
On the climate change issue, he just has the right attitude
The Pirate Party supports him, that shows how pirates are smart.
:p[/quote]
I dont think our economy can withstand a socialist for 4 or 8 years, but Ill take Obama over the hildebeast if it comes down to it.
At least he is honest about how far left he is. I guess thats all we can ask for in dirt bag politicians. Left or right. just be honest about what you believe.
Still, the pirate party are jackasses for backing a big government party. It shows a lack of care for their “party” by not having the slightest clue on the issues. Asshats.
A vote for a democrat or a republican, is a vote for Corporate America. You can’t win no matter the way you choose. The only difference between the two, is how much cheese they choose to hand out the nations poor. They have all been bought and sold to the highest bidder.
I vote to get rid of corporately funded lobbyist. That would be the first small step in the right direction.
Any thinking American should realise that the ONLY voting issue this year should be ending illegal wars that will eventually sink your country for the profit of very few (and possibly another country that shall remain nameless). Anything else is just a distraction.
US Pirate Party just lost all street cred. Obama? WTF!
Obama Bin Laden. LOL!
[quote comment="254756"]I pity the foo’ who don’t vote for copyright change.[/quote]
He sounds like a bomber to me
[quote comment="255390"]Let’s see…
1) Obama admitted to cocaine use
2) Obama wants to step up the drug war, especially in Louisiana.
So.. Obama wants people like himself to be arrested and put in jail?
HYPOCRITE[/quote]
Just because you did coke before, doesn’t mean you’re still (or ever was) addicted. That’s like saying once you light a fire it’ll last forever and ever without help until the end of time and then some.
[quote comment="255456"]Wow, I am really disappointed in the Pirate Party. Why would they support this liar who wants bigger government and has said he will not bring our troops home?[/quote]
Ever hear of the Napoleanic wars? A big reason Napoleon couldn’t win was because he had to leave a buttload of troops in Spain to fight the insurgents so it didn’t become a boiling pot of rebel soldiers that could launch a real attack against him. That’s just like Iraq is the the US. If we just left now nothing positive would EVER come out of it, other than a bunch of countries with a grudge against us, another country ruled by a ridiculous theocracy, and a major threat to the people of America and just about every other Westernized country because extremeist Muslims hate any Westernized country. Anyone who promises to take our troops out now is lying for votes, or is a terrorist themself. I’m against this war and all, but it’s here and just leaving won’t solve the problem.
Anyway, bigger government doesn’t always mean more Big Brother effect. I could make a government that was huge without any stupid survailance on my own people. Plus, completely destroying all of the current offices and committees and what not would put so many people out of a job, and we have enough people trying to live as a McDonald’s frycook, last thing we need is more of that shit popping up all over the country. Next thing you know we’ll have McDonald’s brand filet mingion and BurgerKing brand fish filets in the supermarket…
@BlanK
You’re just stupid, right?
i hope you all know we are all doomed
[quote comment="254752"]NEVER trust politicians![/quote]
totally agree.
As hard as you all try to voice your opinions it doesn’t matter its out of our hands.
Go back to work, drones
It’s never out of your hands. Just don’t put all your hopes with these big business candidates.
Read Noam chomsky or other thinkers who question society of today. You can always make a difference, and the first important step is to realize that we do NOT live in the free world, we have to do things differently and politicians and corporations are not going to help us.
[quote comment="255095"]The last thing we in this FU country of ours is a Muslim portraying himself as a Christian to be running things. Did someone forget what happened 6 years ago? Get your heads out of your asses, there is only one clear choice, Fred Thompson. Right now we need someone that doesn’t screw around and Mr. Thompson is the clear choice. But if your an idiot you go right ahead and make that call.[/quote]
Muslim? where do you get your news from? That guy that lives in the alley across the street isnt a very reliable source. I heard he smoked crack cocaine. You havent been smokin too have you? That Thompson character is interesting but not a ‘clear choice. Stop doin
those drugs.
[quote comment="255514"][quote comment="255497"]Obama is the right choice.
He was against the Iraq war from the beginning.
On the climate change issue, he just has the right attitude
The Pirate Party supports him, that shows how pirates are smart.
:p[/quote]
climate change
what a retard. drink Algores koolade if you want. Militant environmentalists are just where the commies went when they were no longer relevant.[/quote]
Just because you care about your surroundings doesnt make communist, it makes you human. Besides I dont think showing slides to be people is very ‘militant’.
By the way communism is an economical alternative to capitalism. It isnt some sort of religious following or cult. Why do so many fear something that is just an idea? What if you had an idea and everybody thought it was bad? You have to look at it from both angles. Unilateral thinking is what starts wars.
unilateral thinking on the terrorists part caused 9/11
Brainwashed brainwashed, we all have been brainwashed.
Fuck the narrowminded fundamentalistic Christians… I mean republicans. How about keeping religion and government separated. USA is falling more towards medieval times, unless it realizes this.
If I were an USA citizen, I’d vote for Clinton or Obama just for the sake of not having a white male as president for the first time. All the rest are lies anyway. But it won’t happen. USA dug its own grave.
When you really get down to it democrats understand that politicians are naturally corrupt. Republicans are stuck in the idea that every piece of bullshit fed to them is the golden truth. I know there are some democrats and republicans are different in their own respects. But as a whole that is just the way it looks. This new election does show a change to this image. The republicans seem to be starting to reject the shit given to them. The democrats seem to be accepting some. The whole thing is just so confusing. Hopefully it is leading to a moderate presidency. I do like having my cake and eating it too.
Hello everyone, it’s me Osama from A cave, and no one can find this cave hahahahaha,
and let me tell you this, Bush is a lair, Clinton too, and thats why I attacked the Twin Towers, because America is evil and wants to police the world.
Why can’t America stop harassing people, fu** them. Thats why muslims hate him because he thinks he has the global right to harass the world.
I hope he dies of his own Mercury filled Vaccines and Ron Paul becomes president, if that happens maybe Al-Quada will stop attcking America if Ron Paul is elected.
In fact I am a Fan of Ron Paul, even though I hate Americans. He is against big governments, I am tired of hiring suicide bombers, I want America to stop sending troops to Iraq.
Bye Bye Bushy Infidels
and I’m sorry the whole things a parody but the part about why Al-queda attacking America could actually be true, I think if we stop policing the world, and America stops harassing other governments I think AL-Queda would stop bombing America.
Stop harassing the world UN, stop enforcing copyright laws allm over the fu*ken world.
[quote comment="255844"]Hello everyone, it’s me Osama from A cave, and no one can find this cave hahahahaha,
and let me tell you this, Bush is a lair, Clinton too, and thats why I attacked the Twin Towers, because America is evil and wants to police the world.
Why can’t America stop harassing people, fu** them. Thats why muslims hate him because he thinks he has the global right to harass the world.
I hope he dies of his own Mercury filled Vaccines and Ron Paul becomes president, if that happens maybe Al-Quada will stop attcking America if Ron Paul is elected.
In fact I am a Fan of Ron Paul, even though I hate Americans. He is against big governments, I am tired of hiring suicide bombers, I want America to stop sending troops to Iraq.
Bye Bye Bushy Infidels[/quote]
How do you know Ron Paul is not a liar? Just because he says one thing now, what keeps him from doing another later. Do not give me the whole “actions speak louder then words bullshit”. Politicians are all liars. Heck I bet Osama bin laden has lied his fair share of lies. When will you learn humans are complex. Perfection is an illusion. Instead of killing people who may think different then you, ask why. We all have skeletons in our closets. It’s just human nature.
[quote comment="255801"]Brainwashed brainwashed, we all have been brainwashed.
Fuck the narrowminded fundamentalistic Christians… I mean republicans. How about keeping religion and government separated. USA is falling more towards medieval times, unless it realizes this.
If I were an USA citizen, I’d vote for Clinton or Obama just for the sake of not having a white male as president for the first time. All the rest are lies anyway. But it won’t happen. USA dug its own grave.[/quote]
Its a good thing people like you who live in the USA are too lazy to vote.
lol medieval times…. retard.
[quote comment="255655"]@BlanK
You’re just stupid, right?[/quote]
It’s comments like that that lead to idiots becoming president or any government office… Believe it or not the only thing that happens is you make yourself seem like a retarded 12 year old when you leave that kind of comment. Next time try saying what’s wrong with the way I saw something.
[quote]Any thinking American should realise that the ONLY voting issue this year should be ending illegal wars that will eventually sink your country for the profit of very few (and possibly another country that shall remain nameless). Anything else is just a distraction.[/quote]
I see where your getting at, and agree to some extent, but I can’t help laugh at the term “illegal war”.
I do understand the the U.S. is supposed to fall in line with the United Abominations rules, but really, why should a country back down just because a bunch of cowards didn’t want to join in? To say a war is illegal, or even legal, is just silly at best.
I even find it funny that we try to set rules for war. What a joke. War is Hell, and in Hell, there are no rules.
Don’t think I pro war by saying this either, I’m just saying.
Will the powers that be, allow there to be a black president, regardless of his policies?
Or will he be gunned down by a Clansman, before the RIAA/MPAA can get to him?
Just a question.
your going to censor me because i follow the fact that RP > BO?
Just now did i reliaze that ron paul (rp) stands for roleplay and BO (barack obama) stands for body odor…. i think i prefer roleplay
You know all I hear about is “Ron Paul this and Ron Paul that” I don’t know much about him and I don’t WANT to know much about him considering it’s like the biggest internet fad going on right now.
lol I also love the fact that no republicans have been mentioned at all. Yay!
ron paul is a republican. And I think someone mention that guy from law and order. He’s also a republican. I like to here about both sides.
[quote comment="254753"]lol ron paul[/quote]
gotta agree here… I can’t understand how people get so psyched about *any* politicians… The simple fact that he got that far means that Obama’s got to be as corrupt as everyone else, or else they’d have gotten rid of him long ago, with a bullet in the head if necessary…
But the guy can talk, he’d be definitely better than the monkey pausing in the office right now…
So I guess I’d agree to vote for Obama, plus it’ll be fun to look at the faces of racists who have a black president :P
quoted the wrong text there… always do that… I meant the 1st comment… sorry bout that
Do you really think anyone with even half of a brain would actually vote for a person who will not even pledge allegence to the very country he is running for president. come on get real open your eyes it`s ignorant people like you that is bringing this country down.The best advise you can be given is do your homework on who you vote for.
Its amazing how a bunch of twats can join together and try to make some governing format for piracy. Its cut throat here. The only thing people care about here is getting handouts. Politicians are all snakes, and this is a shameless promotion for the democrats by abunch of fucking tools who nobody cares about anyhow. Fuck the pirate party. All anyone cares about is saving themselves money on music,movies,software, and games. Thats all its ever really been about. We’ve just found ways to justify it to ourselves over the years.
also…. If you don’t like Ron Paul its because you’re a stupid dumb bastard who has never taken the time to really observe all the candidates, what they stand for and how they holdup those values when being debated on them. You can “lol” all you want but Ron Paul stands up for what he believes in and there are only really two candidates who do that in this election so perhaps they will get to run vs each other and may the best choice win regardless of party.
radiers:
“I do understand the the U.S. is supposed to fall in line with the United Abominations rules, but really, why should a country back down just because a bunch of cowards didn’t want to join in? To say a war is illegal, or even legal, is just silly at best.”
Get educated. The USA Constitution requires a Bill of War to be presented to both houses of congress, and upon passage a signature by the president. No Bill of War was ever presented to congress, the actions taken by this white house are in clear violation of the Constituion. The “war” is illegal and unlawful as it is not a true war but an executive action of force.
Anyone who is still caught up in the