A guy like Tauss gets charged and has to fear a trial. But Ursula von der Leyen, also know as “Zensursula” (because of that censorship law she and by now others want), showed pictures of CP in publicy and someone pressed charges against her – and they were dropped. She used these kids to get us to agree with her. Isn’t that just as bad?

I can’t trust something like that…

ust because a party enters a parliament doesn’t necessarily mean it controls it! It just means that it is a representation of the ideals of the people, and if the people want to have filesharing, then so be it. Also, banning violent games? That didn’t just happen in Europe. It happened in Australia, in the US, everywhere where this “copyright” thing seems to be somewhat enforced; it’s merely trend following to gather more votes from the same kind of people that voted for the British National Party.

Still, it shows that their political system considers theft to be a valid advocacy issue. In the states, if there was a political party that went “Hey, guys, let’s all try to get the government to legalize theft!” they would never have half a chance. The fact that the pirate agenda has been allowed to merge with the European political scene says so much about the code of ethics and moral standards they live by.

Giving in to hundreds of greedy pirates, you say. Giving in indeed. They are giving in to what the people want….and if you don’t want to give in to that, well, you just don’t want democracy. And isn’t that precisely what you’re supposedly trying to defend?

I want a a politcal party founded on rape! Or.. maybe bank robberies!.. How about money laundering!

Also “Freedom of speech” doesn’t exist in Germany. In Germany you only have “Freedom of harmless babble” but not more. There are even well-known, verifiable facts you’re not allowed to lie about. If you do so in public, you’ll be punished as harsh as a rapist or worse.

I suppose you’re trying to convince me and others to vote for a PP. If so I gotta tell you that insulting people rarely works.
You don’t even seem to read my posts from start to finish before you go on these semi-trolling rants. I’m not from the US, and even if I were I don’t see why nationality matters. The fact that I read Danish newspapers should make you wonder if I perhaps was from Denmark, and yes Denmark is a European country.

Both the green parties and the social democrats were spawned from already established ideologies. Ideologies that have an opinion on just about all political issues and subjects relevant at the time. Piracy is hardly an ideology, it’s a part of one – actually it’s a part of many.

I’m not suggesting the PP politicians are idiots, what I’m pointing out is that they’ll spend most of their time in parliament voting on issues their electors never heard their opinion on. I don’t know if the member(s) that’ll represent the local PP in parliament are social democrats, Christian democrats, republicans, communists or conservative and quite frankly that bothers me.
I don’t see any chance that the PP’s will ever develop into a full fledged parties, their members and voters seem to disagree on just about every issue besides copyright and privacy.

Yes I have read most PP’s programs. And just to make sure I wasn’t wrong, I just visited the Swedish PP’s homepage. The homepage doesn’t explain their views on anything but patent, copyright, copyright related monopolies, privacy and the freedom of speech.

The PP’s are merely protest parties, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but I don’t believe the copyright issue alone is important enough to warrant my vote atm. I share your fear of censorship, but at least hear in Denmark I have plenty of candidates and parties to choose from that I know will represent my view on that subject.

No matter what fancy insult you cook up next you’re not going to make me vote for any of the PP’s. I am however working on getting our views out there and making some the established politicians/parties change their minds.
You might think that’s futile and every politician not in a PP is a puppet, but I believe “lobbying” is the way to go.

You shouldn’t have to choose whether or not you’re a socialist, a conservative etc. OR a pirate, you should have the option to be a socialist pirate or whatever strikes you’re fancy. None of us want to have the army turned into a bunch of buccaneers.

I don’t see a long term future for the PP’s in modern politics while you clearly do. I suppose time will tell who’s “right”.