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		<title>By: Jon Rawlinson Productions &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kuroshio Sea - stats, press and comments:</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a million times on YouTube since July 15 and nearly 600,000 times on Vimeo. The band Barcelona was so taken with the clip that they posted their own video response to it. And while they wouldn&#8217;t disclose any hard [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a million times on YouTube since July 15 and nearly 600,000 times on Vimeo. The band Barcelona was so taken with the clip that they posted their own video response to it. And while they wouldn&#8217;t disclose any hard [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will Viral Video Kill the Music Video?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Viral Video Kill the Music Video?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a million times on YouTube since July 15, and nearly 600,000 times on Vimeo. The band Barcelona was so taken with the clip that they posted their own video response to it. And though they wouldn&#8217;t disclose any hard [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a million times on YouTube since July 15, and nearly 600,000 times on Vimeo. The band Barcelona was so taken with the clip that they posted their own video response to it. And though they wouldn&#8217;t disclose any hard [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lulz</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I download when I hear a good song on a video, not buy unless they need the money.

 - Never Pirate Games -]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I download when I hear a good song on a video, not buy unless they need the money.</p>
<p> &#8211; Never Pirate Games -</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Briggs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@67: The point is, it &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; just for people with fat wallets. Nowadays, you can get good music on &lt;i&gt;Newgrounds&lt;/i&gt;. That&#039;s saying something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@67: The point is, it <i>isn&#8217;t</i> just for people with fat wallets. Nowadays, you can get good music on <i>Newgrounds</i>. That&#8217;s saying something.</p>
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		<title>By: plasticpimp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Art shouldn&#039;t only be for those with a fat wallet. Throw some concerts and we will show up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art shouldn&#8217;t only be for those with a fat wallet. Throw some concerts and we will show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Briggs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@64: Thanks for the response - I hope this will actually get somewhere. Perhaps the pirates (including me for the time being, sadly) will actually come up with a reason like you specified.

But I&#039;ve been thinking about how to make my response a little better, and here&#039;s a point that was lurking in my mind but completely unrelated to your response to my post.



I think my definition of &quot;the industry&quot; is skewed - I don&#039;t take musicians to be part of the industry nearly as much as, say, game developers in the game industry. But that&#039;s only because I have a skewed mind - I believe the industry is everybody that&#039;s in it for the money.

I think the MAFIAA (yeah, I&#039;m talking both the Music and Film Industry Association of America and the Members Against Freedom of Information Association of America) is going in completely the wrong direction with their advertising against piracy, and you bring up why they are.

You bring up a very strong point that it&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; the musicians who suffer from piracy, but &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; the people in the industry itself - but, I&#039;d have to amend this to say that it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; the musicians who suffer, but &lt;i&gt;mainly&lt;/i&gt; the industry people. Like I explained before, I don&#039;t count musicians as part of the industry because they&#039;re not in it chiefly for the money. (If they are, tell me.) So the claim that &quot;musicians won&#039;t make music if you keep on pirating&quot; is false. They may stop distributing it as widely because the industry people are losing their money, but I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any major example of a musician that refused to keep on making music because his sales were being hurt.

So if you want to get the real message across of why piracy hurts the music industry, you need to stop citing musicians as a principal victim. Musicians don&#039;t suffer because of piracy - the industry does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@64: Thanks for the response &#8211; I hope this will actually get somewhere. Perhaps the pirates (including me for the time being, sadly) will actually come up with a reason like you specified.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve been thinking about how to make my response a little better, and here&#8217;s a point that was lurking in my mind but completely unrelated to your response to my post.</p>
<p>I think my definition of &#8220;the industry&#8221; is skewed &#8211; I don&#8217;t take musicians to be part of the industry nearly as much as, say, game developers in the game industry. But that&#8217;s only because I have a skewed mind &#8211; I believe the industry is everybody that&#8217;s in it for the money.</p>
<p>I think the MAFIAA (yeah, I&#8217;m talking both the Music and Film Industry Association of America and the Members Against Freedom of Information Association of America) is going in completely the wrong direction with their advertising against piracy, and you bring up why they are.</p>
<p>You bring up a very strong point that it&#8217;s not <i>just</i> the musicians who suffer from piracy, but <i>also</i> the people in the industry itself &#8211; but, I&#8217;d have to amend this to say that it&#8217;s <i>not</i> the musicians who suffer, but <i>mainly</i> the industry people. Like I explained before, I don&#8217;t count musicians as part of the industry because they&#8217;re not in it chiefly for the money. (If they are, tell me.) So the claim that &#8220;musicians won&#8217;t make music if you keep on pirating&#8221; is false. They may stop distributing it as widely because the industry people are losing their money, but I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any major example of a musician that refused to keep on making music because his sales were being hurt.</p>
<p>So if you want to get the real message across of why piracy hurts the music industry, you need to stop citing musicians as a principal victim. Musicians don&#8217;t suffer because of piracy &#8211; the industry does.</p>
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		<title>By: Xile</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to be getting more common for artists to have opposing views to those of the people who brand themselves as only acting in their best interests.

it&#039;s a shame they have no right to be angry when they have signed away all of their rights to everything they have created as a band [and the sale and distribution thereof] to their record label / distributor etc for the benefit of being publicised and making a royalty, with this kind of set up surely it is possible for the artist them self to be punished for burning his own music and giving it to a friend?

i know a few small artists none of them are rich, most of them have quite a few fans [relatively ;)], all of them are just happy to make music

how many people that you know, your self included, legally own enough music to fill up your mp3 player?

things just aren&#039;t right :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to be getting more common for artists to have opposing views to those of the people who brand themselves as only acting in their best interests.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a shame they have no right to be angry when they have signed away all of their rights to everything they have created as a band [and the sale and distribution thereof] to their record label / distributor etc for the benefit of being publicised and making a royalty, with this kind of set up surely it is possible for the artist them self to be punished for burning his own music and giving it to a friend?</p>
<p>i know a few small artists none of them are rich, most of them have quite a few fans [relatively ;)], all of them are just happy to make music</p>
<p>how many people that you know, your self included, legally own enough music to fill up your mp3 player?</p>
<p>things just aren&#8217;t right :(</p>
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		<title>By: Reasoned Mind</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Briggs, you explain piracy as an illegal attempt to make possession a right, but payment an option. Were this applied evenly across the board, we&#039;d have justice because then the mailman would no longer be salaried but live on the tips we leave for him in our mailboxes. The farmer would just HOPE to gather some income somehow. The mechanic would have to give repair away and hope someone pays him (for some reason) now and then. Applied evenly to all goods and services, it might be radical, but it would still be fair.

Everyone has a product or service they sell for their living. You probably do, too. To make payment only at the discretion of the taker of goods and services, we&#039;d also require a workable paradigm for everyone, and good reason why this is better. Pirates didn&#039;t target the arts because of some grand free speech free information ideology, Mr. Briggs. Pirates targeted digital merchandise simply because it became large-scale possible. If cars could be cloned we&#039;d be hearing the same specious justifications. We all know this is very true.

But this movement gathers none of the respect of the American revolution because it is not across the board nor conceived in courage; it is narrowly contained to digital only where theft is quick and easy and secrecy is the way. 

We can also likely agree that more and more product and service will move to digital in time. When a thoughtful and irrefutable explanation can be advanced why only digital product and service--but not anything else-- should suffer this institutionalized gutting of fairearned revenue while the damage to the families is perhaps sad but still proper, respect will follow. Until then pirates are just old fashioned crooks with a technical assist in a new exciting medium, and a just culture will do what it must.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Briggs, you explain piracy as an illegal attempt to make possession a right, but payment an option. Were this applied evenly across the board, we&#8217;d have justice because then the mailman would no longer be salaried but live on the tips we leave for him in our mailboxes. The farmer would just HOPE to gather some income somehow. The mechanic would have to give repair away and hope someone pays him (for some reason) now and then. Applied evenly to all goods and services, it might be radical, but it would still be fair.</p>
<p>Everyone has a product or service they sell for their living. You probably do, too. To make payment only at the discretion of the taker of goods and services, we&#8217;d also require a workable paradigm for everyone, and good reason why this is better. Pirates didn&#8217;t target the arts because of some grand free speech free information ideology, Mr. Briggs. Pirates targeted digital merchandise simply because it became large-scale possible. If cars could be cloned we&#8217;d be hearing the same specious justifications. We all know this is very true.</p>
<p>But this movement gathers none of the respect of the American revolution because it is not across the board nor conceived in courage; it is narrowly contained to digital only where theft is quick and easy and secrecy is the way. </p>
<p>We can also likely agree that more and more product and service will move to digital in time. When a thoughtful and irrefutable explanation can be advanced why only digital product and service&#8211;but not anything else&#8211; should suffer this institutionalized gutting of fairearned revenue while the damage to the families is perhaps sad but still proper, respect will follow. Until then pirates are just old fashioned crooks with a technical assist in a new exciting medium, and a just culture will do what it must.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t some of the indie music band realized that if their music is not picked up by a major indie, like MUTE, it is because their music is DERIVATIVE, MUDDY and UNINSPIRED crap that sounds like any other more established artists out there.

If you&#039;re not popular because you basically suck, FIX YOUR SOUND before blaming others for your problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t some of the indie music band realized that if their music is not picked up by a major indie, like MUTE, it is because their music is DERIVATIVE, MUDDY and UNINSPIRED crap that sounds like any other more established artists out there.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not popular because you basically suck, FIX YOUR SOUND before blaming others for your problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Älymystö &#187; In an Age of Piracy, The Music Industry is Thriving</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Älymystö &#187; In an Age of Piracy, The Music Industry is Thriving]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] so on. The same applies on YouTube with its numerous fan videos, which is in excellent way to get free publicity. Make no mistake; the live music industry grew in 2008. More events, more bands, more tickets and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so on. The same applies on YouTube with its numerous fan videos, which is in excellent way to get free publicity. Make no mistake; the live music industry grew in 2008. More events, more bands, more tickets and [...]</p>
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