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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And it&#039;s going to happen here in Canada, too, because the US has pressured our government to go along with it all.  We&#039;ve even had police departments suggesting a tax on our phone bills to pay for them to spy on us.  Bah!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s going to happen here in Canada, too, because the US has pressured our government to go along with it all.  We&#8217;ve even had police departments suggesting a tax on our phone bills to pay for them to spy on us.  Bah!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, you might make a related case here that there is, in fact, a lot of pushed-for legislation which actually DOES provide the ISP liability to monitor the traffic of their customers. The EU data retention directive, for instance, demands this.

It&#039;s actually understandable that people are by now a bit confused as to which &lt;b&gt;specific&lt;/b&gt; method of mass surveillance is being debated. Or who will carry it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you might make a related case here that there is, in fact, a lot of pushed-for legislation which actually DOES provide the ISP liability to monitor the traffic of their customers. The EU data retention directive, for instance, demands this.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually understandable that people are by now a bit confused as to which <b>specific</b> method of mass surveillance is being debated. Or who will carry it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because both companies are NOT driven by the MPAA?

The &quot;adversary&quot; when it comes to filesharing can be quite clearly defines as a very narrow range of interests - ones who spend more lobbying money in congress than most other tech companies have ever found necessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because both companies are NOT driven by the MPAA?</p>
<p>The &#8220;adversary&#8221; when it comes to filesharing can be quite clearly defines as a very narrow range of interests &#8211; ones who spend more lobbying money in congress than most other tech companies have ever found necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Toonice

Which is why tunneling is the bread and butter for filesharing. That, or onion routing protocols. Given that the attacker is a peer in the swarm you need to ensure that neither the query nor the file transfer can be certified as coming from the client whose ip you see on the host list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Toonice</p>
<p>Which is why tunneling is the bread and butter for filesharing. That, or onion routing protocols. Given that the attacker is a peer in the swarm you need to ensure that neither the query nor the file transfer can be certified as coming from the client whose ip you see on the host list.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/planned-bittorrent-pirate-punishments-spark-protest-120323/#comment-905874</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you mean the methods where they ask the local soothsayer or the one where they try to track down downloaders due to ip? I&#039;m a bit confused as both seem to have generally the same degree of accuracy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean the methods where they ask the local soothsayer or the one where they try to track down downloaders due to ip? I&#8217;m a bit confused as both seem to have generally the same degree of accuracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, not quite. In France the reaction to HADOPI was a 3% rise in filesharing immediately. Generally speaking the french don&#039;t argue much with their government. They just quietly disregard it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not quite. In France the reaction to HADOPI was a 3% rise in filesharing immediately. Generally speaking the french don&#8217;t argue much with their government. They just quietly disregard it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has made waves in other countries as well. However, in many other countries people are already used to heavy-handed abuses of power and have their own way of dealing with it.

HADOPI in France passed with nary a hitch, for instance. The response by the french citizenry was predictable. Filesharing rose 3% immediately as many ordinary french citizens sought out pirates in order to learn how to fileshare just to spite their government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has made waves in other countries as well. However, in many other countries people are already used to heavy-handed abuses of power and have their own way of dealing with it.</p>
<p>HADOPI in France passed with nary a hitch, for instance. The response by the french citizenry was predictable. Filesharing rose 3% immediately as many ordinary french citizens sought out pirates in order to learn how to fileshare just to spite their government.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get a default VPN solution. i.e. either tell your computer to use the vpn proxy by default - or if you are less savvy, use a vpn with a client which refuses chosen applications internet access save by the tunnel. Ivacy uses this but there are other VPNs with the same idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a default VPN solution. i.e. either tell your computer to use the vpn proxy by default &#8211; or if you are less savvy, use a vpn with a client which refuses chosen applications internet access save by the tunnel. Ivacy uses this but there are other VPNs with the same idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concur. This, right here...

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The RIAA’s current partner DtecNet also has shortcomings as they fail to understand how BitTorrent works.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

...tells me most about anything. A big bunch of scammers with little knowledge of law and even less in technology? And they&#039;ll mass-mail out to dead people, pets, people who don&#039;t own a computer...and possibly the odd filesharer. Demanding protection money or an expensive lawsuit over the flimsiest premise they think they can get away with.

As long as there is no law on the books severely penalizing false claims, the &quot;mass-mail extortion model&quot; will continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concur. This, right here&#8230;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The RIAA’s current partner DtecNet also has shortcomings as they fail to understand how BitTorrent works.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8230;tells me most about anything. A big bunch of scammers with little knowledge of law and even less in technology? And they&#8217;ll mass-mail out to dead people, pets, people who don&#8217;t own a computer&#8230;and possibly the odd filesharer. Demanding protection money or an expensive lawsuit over the flimsiest premise they think they can get away with.</p>
<p>As long as there is no law on the books severely penalizing false claims, the &#8220;mass-mail extortion model&#8221; will continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Koolbigkat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose that one way to protest innocence is, when the ISPs start their action, the subscribers, being the other partner in a commercial contract of service with the ISP, can sue the ISP for failure to provide said service, and demand that the ISPs provide proof of the so-called infringements. And when the ISPs cannot, then the subscriber can sue the asses off the ISPs. That will serve them right to play subscribers out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that one way to protest innocence is, when the ISPs start their action, the subscribers, being the other partner in a commercial contract of service with the ISP, can sue the ISP for failure to provide said service, and demand that the ISPs provide proof of the so-called infringements. And when the ISPs cannot, then the subscriber can sue the asses off the ISPs. That will serve them right to play subscribers out.</p>
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