Peer to peer is a much more powerful platform than record labels, when it comes to giving artists exposure.

What’s next? Dismantling the military industrial complex and open the borders? Meybe allowing homosexual couples to breed? XD

When was the last time you did see a politician make anything besides talk?

So Mr. Jerk, if she never have had a label she would be a poor lady right? Because she couldn’t possibly make a tour without a label right?

How about the Arctic Monkeys who achieved fame and success thru the internet and fans then? are they a figment of our collective imagination?

Please GTFO LoL

uh yeah retard, that is exactly what i’m saying. 99% of her career has been with big labels.

if you find it so hard to believe show me ONE artist whose achieved her success without ever being signed to a label.

otherwise, GTFO.

So what did she(Madonna) or did she not make millions without selling a single CD?

It is not prove that is possible to do it or the millions are imaginary?

Or you are saying that she would never find success by any other mean without labels? which I find hard to believe.

Here here as soon as the small minded old people die off to make way for the future and future technology they better

hows that bro???? theres a new business model for ya….i call it the stop crying and start dying model….

“Hey #3, read this: http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/jason-rohrer/freeDistribution.html

It is possible to make money off of the creation of information without using intellectual property laws.”
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LOL, same horsesh*t ideas the freetards keeps peddling. at least this guy is honest in that all of these “business models” will yield marginal revenues at the very best.

Go Spain!

Of course that’s a trick(y) question for some people, ‘specially for those in the content distribution business.

Here’s a thought though: how about one that follows a common denominator in this thing we call the free market. Supply and demand tends to work you know. Perhaps you’ve heard about bittorrent.

‘Finally all the people realize they could get everything for free and stop paying paying for the content(s) at all.’

And yet people buy air in tin cans.

- slicethepie.
- sellaband.

I think sellaband is german and slicethepie is british but the slicethepie is more focused on digital sales and distribuition.

If they fight for P2P? probably not but it’s a new model never the less.

The new(old) model is touring and working hard, just ask Madonna if it didn’t work LoL

Ask Madonna how she got paid millions without selling a single CD LoL

Those artists and companies that are betting on CD as a model will starve.

I know, your only viable solution would be that you could download and upload everything for free. But, tell me exactly how’s this a better business model? Finally all the people realize they could get everything for free and stop paying paying for the content(s) at all. And the fanbase of some product is minority (like when you want all that trivia buying some collector’s edition). They don’t pay up the production cost.

That is not true, if it was, recorders and VCRs would have wipped out the industry a long time ago.
- You can’t download physical goods like boxes, posters, t-shirts.
- You can’t download live shows before they happen or the experience of a live concert.
- You can’t download bar gigs.
- you can’t download the artist.

Wanna know a model ask Madonna how she made millions without selling one single CD. If the artists depends completely on CD sales that artists will starve.

17 Jun 03, 2009 at 14:43 by to Rabbit80

Now compare Red Hat to Microsoft. Which is more powerful, productive and rich enterprise? And please don’t give me that socialism bullshit here. You’d take million dollars like a puppy when given.

Gosh, people, we live in a capitalistic world. Everyone fights for themself, and the ones making loads of money are completely entitled to it.

Open Source model is just something for fans and communists. One who like messing with source codes, and the others who think everything should be shared even (the stupid ones).

So IBM, Intel, Oracle are all communists? Who could have known LoL
Microsoft it’s more powerfull that’s true, but productive I don’t think so, they didn’t find a way to battle Google, linux is incresing it’s market share, opensource is buitl in, in motherboards, fridges, microwaves, routers(Cisco love linux) and MySQL have a healthy commercial version and nobody holds the rights to the tecnologie you see you can profit from it but you cannot prohibit others from trying this it’s not socialism this is pure capitalism without monopolies LoL
You have to work HARD, very, very, HARD to do things and it will promote only the best ones and not let people get lazy in the industry they say “Create or die!”, opensource create local markets, with local people that will help others in any country of the world in a personal manner, big business cannot offer that personal touch. opensource ERPs are great for small business, opensource music software produced by musicians it’s great to cut costs(traverso-daw.org or Rosegarden) they are like studios you can do the remastering right there on your pentium III PC.
What opensource do is decentralize the wealth it does not say anywhere that you cannot profit from it just that you don’t have the right to negate knowledge to others.

It is possible to make money off of the creation of information without using intellectual property laws.

On the other side is the “Socialist Workers” party guy (currently in power), who wants to implement the “3 strikes” Hadopi style, made by the French right wing no less; in order to protect the sacred interest of American corporations… But before any of this can happen, they must change the IP law to make it illegal to copy files with non profit intent, which they are trying or about to do…

Forgive me if I’m highly skeptical about these, the main established parties in Spain (PSOE/PP) are scum and i would only trust someone from a radically different background, such as the Pirate or Communist parties.

This is most likely a bluff to attract voters with hollow promises. Young generations are advised to stay away and concentrate your efforts in people who want real CHANGE, you know, like the people who want to end the Monarchy and establish a Republic.

“Now compare Red Hat to Microsoft. Which is more powerful, productive and rich enterprise?”

Comparing Red Hat to M$ is like comparing your local newsagents to Tesco.. in terms of size there is no comparison! And you completely missed the point!

The point is that Red Hat ARE competing with FREE software directly (unlike M$) and still have a business model that makes a good profit!

Because heaven forbid that they talk to the millions of users who fileshare and take us seriously. FFS!

Give me a service that is not limited to US residents but is instead accessible to everyone.

I tried to purchase few songs and both itunes and amazon gave me “For US residents only” message.

And for TV-Shows I can either download them illegally one day after they air in the US or wait few years before they show them locally here and sometimes they never arrive.

I would still wait for first episode of Stargate Atlantis.

Get creative!
Ups, sry u can’t, you have no fantasy.

And even if you could come up with a new business model, chances are someone already owns the copyright on it.
Karma I guess…

European politicians should start growing a backbone, fast.
The US represents the interests (if they really do) of 200milion ppl, Europe stand for the interests of 500million (even more including Canada & maybe Australia)
The interests of the masses should outweigh the interests of the few (its still a democracy, right?)

the corporations are trying to become rulers of the planet..

we will destroy them.

At the end of the day, i work as a chef, im not rich, and music industries aside, if i was an artist, id be very happy to have a house to live in, a nice car on my driveway, and food on the table, not to mention a job that I love doing – even if i didnt have millions in the bank =P

Dude, have a look at what the best selling book in the world is – it’s proof that copying and sharing can only increase something’s value.

And you know what the funny thing about it is? You can download the entire book and read it for free. Don’t like downloading? Then head to the nearest to get a copy for free.

Cheers.

What? Open source projects are often significantly better in terms of efficiency than close sourced projects. Just like the scientific community, peer review makes things better.

Your reference to linux/vs windows is irrelevant. Red Hat is largely for servers. Many people have windows because it’s what they are used to, and most people are afraid to change anything with computers. Windows is dominant because it was dominant early on.

Try Deezer and Lastfm, they may be pointing, if not in the right direction, at least somewhere…

WTF? muuh-gnu said it best in #9:
“…if there is no business model at all, it is not our job to artificially create it by fiercely enforcing a worldwide filesharing prohibition. If there is a business model in the real world, you try to make a buck, or else you simply die like hundreds of other industries during the past centuries.”

What’s happening to the recording industry is no different to what’s happening to GM. People don’t want shitty cars/music shoved down their throats.

Go ask NOFX about how to do it if you really have no idea. They’ve sold 6 million records worldwide _independently_ on the strength of the music rather than paying commercial radio stations to play their stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOFX

The sooner the big 4 die and stop spreading the noise pollution of the talentless britney spears’s of this world the better.

Gosh, people, we live in a capitalistic world. Everyone fights for themself, and the ones making loads of money are completely entitled to it.

Open Source model is just something for fans and communists. One who like messing with source codes, and the others who think everything should be shared even (the stupid ones).

More openness and freedom. So what people share, it’s human nature to share, taxing it is just wrong. The plastic disks need to go, embrace the internet. There is so much opportunity online, but they are just too afraid.

The few, big companies share a monopoly that doesn’t do much good. The model of several over-promoted artists, and the rest forgatten on the side line, will die with the online community.