Poll: Will the X-Men Leak Hurt the Movie’s Success?
Written by Ernesto on April 05, 2009Earlier this week an unfinished copy of the highly anticipated “X-Men Origins: Wolverine” movie leaked online. Fox is expecting a financial disaster and has called in the FBI to find out where the leak originated. We’re wondering if the leak will actually hurt the film’s success, or might the opposite be true?
The various leaked X-Men copies that found their way onto various file-sharing networks are not quite finished. All the available ‘workprint’ versions of the film are missing special effects, but that didn’t stop most people from taking a sneak peak at this upcoming blockbuster release. The film is due for an official release on May 1, but at least 900,000 BitTorrent users already know how it’s going to end.
20th Century Fox wasn’t happy with this global sneak preview and asked the FBI and MPAA to investigate the case. On Friday it was rumored that an FBI investigation led to a raid on a Dallas data center, but this turned out not to be true. The leak has already cost one Fox news reporter his job. He posted a review of the downloaded movie online and although he loved it, Fox didn’t and he was fired.
What we want to find out with this week’s regular Sunday poll is whether you feel the leak will end up hurting the success of the movie in the long run – or not. It will, if those who have downloaded the film don’t end up seeing it in the movie theater or on DVD, having originally planned to do so. The flip side is that the leak and the associated widespread press coverage could be serving as a useful promotional tool. Those who’ve seen it might become even more curious about the final product, recommended it to others or even take a few friends along to the theater with them.
We’d like to know what you think. How would you respond, IF you had downloaded a copy?
Will the X-Men Leak Hurt the Movie's Success?
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139 Responses
First? Wow.
I would have pirated this before I purchased it anyway.
The movie is so bad i would never go to see it in theater anyway…
It mostly depends on whether or not it is good. That’s not the only thing by far, but it’s a major thing, and IMDB doesn’t yet have an average for it so I don’t know if it is good or not.
downloaded it. loved it. watching it.
simple as.
LOL the movie sucked…
Since all of it’s predcessors sucked, I would neither dowloaded nor watched it in the theatre. Otherwise, if it were a movie i was interested in, i would download it and not watch it in the theater. I’ve never purchased nor rent a dvd in my life, so that option falls away completely.
To sum it up, if somethings available on the pirate bay, i sure wont ever pay for it.
it’s selling like hot cakes along the sidewalk…
Well, since I heard that it didn’t have any special effects or anything I didn’t bother to dl it, but than again I don’t plan on seeing it in theatres, either. I’ll just wait till it’s released by aXXo in a few months :)
if anyhting makes me not want to see it is what they did to deadpool.
but what really makes me not want to see it is the fact that fucking movie sucked dick. so much is wrong with it.. i mean seriously did any of them even read a single comic book?? or even watch the fucking cartoon at lest!.. i forgave them when they made iceman a teen in the x-men movie.. bahhh im going to go all fanboy here so im just going to stop…
but anyways yes im still gonna go to theaters to see it(altho its fucking 10.50 by my house!)
It is especially ridiculous to consider each transfer a lost sale especially when it is… unfinished.
Wasn’t going to watch it at first… but after seeing the leak, I’m definitely gonna watch it.
I haven’t downloaded it (it’s a big-budget action movie. seeing it without the effects is like watching Transformers without the CGI) but from the early reviews and clips of what they’ve done to Deadpool, I won’t be watching it.
People should also bear in mind the workprint is from the version of the movie befoe the extensive reshoots began.
This is something that cinephiles must love, to get a workprint of a still unreleased movie.
Haven’t downloaded it, and don’t plan on doing so. But the chances are that even if I did it’d only make me want to see the final version more as you have no idea what will be done to it from that point on. But in all honesty, if I had downloaded it, I’d totally compensate with a visit to the theater for it. I still plan on seeing it there.
This is a great chance to see a movie in the making. It will be awesome to go to the theater and see how all the effects and renders look when FINALLY completed! Especially that last fight sequence, cause you know there was a poop load missing in that bad boy. Good flick for a leak! This is going to break box office records. And the sad thing is, FOX will still be a**holes about it.
Downloaded it and WILL go see it in the cinema. Without a doubt.
Seeing all the work in progress CGI just makes me want to see it even more.
As long as the MAFIAA is harrassing innocent people and people that share culture I’m not supporting them anymore by going to the cinema or buy a cd/dvd.
I’ve been boycotting theaters recently just because of the attitude they take with their customers, who spends 5 dollars on 1 box of candy? But after checking out the unfinished product and how they went with the story on this xmen, i think ill check it out in theaters.
I hope it does well. A lot of people put a lot of effort into making that movie. But then, I always hope a movie does well. Kind of like the Superbowl — I always feel bad for the sad losing team :-(
I have seen the “workprint” and I liked it very much.
And the movie in the theaters is quite different, more action and violence (I have heard), so I go the the theater to see this movie.
I have gone last years more to the theater then ever before, because I could have seen a preview.
I would have seen it in the theaters to begin with, absolutely loved it, and I’m looking forward to the final product still. I’m interested to see what they reshot, what the special effects will look like, and how the story will play out when all is said and done..
i have been thinking about this for a while… the leak could be because they want to create more hype than there already was.
“but that didn’t stop most people from taking a sneak peak at this upcoming blockbuster release”
Most? Really? MOST?!?! Are you trying to discredit yourselves or did that just slip through the copy?
And how about the option of “No, I won’t watch the leak and will wait to see the movie in theaters when it’s complete” on your poll?
Q: Will the X-Men Leak Hurt the Movie’s Success?
Answer: No. People will still flock to the theaters in droves, not to mention purchasing copies for their ongoing movie collections. It is on record that 2008 was a record year for profits for the MPAA.
Downloaded it,
watched it,
soon as it’s out, i’ll go to theaters to see it ‘big’
and probably will buy it once it’s out on dvd too.
And btw, i liked the movie
Just remember this was the version of the movies that made the director go back and do those 2 -3 weeks of re-shoots at the start of the year!! So the final version should be different.
Since this version would never usually see the light of day, I’ll download it so I can compare it with the final version. :D:D
“It is especially ridiculous to consider each transfer a lost sale especially when it is… unfinished.”
How DO you sell something that’s unfinished, anyway?
I like the unfinished version, I’m curios as to what will be in theaters and on DVD even though I downloaded the leak it isn’t going to stop me from seeing the next movie in a franchise I enjoy.
I love how people lie to excuse their behavior on these things.
Even if the new X men movie will make more money then Titanic they will still complain and dream about how it would have made even more if it hadn’t been pirated, even tho that would probably not be true…
I think if the movie is good it will have great success if the movie sucks not so much then only wolverine fans will go and maybe action fans…
I’d pirate it anyway, but I do still go to the cinema on a regular basis, so I might well see it there first.
But I haven’t downloaded the workprint, nor do I download anything until it gets to DVDrip quality.
No true pirate will leave there home… maybe for pizza. but def not to go to the movies… When i see a movie theater, i cant stop laughing. This workprint, even though incomplete, looks like it was made by dozens of China babies with lead paint. and is about that interesting as spoon feeding pudding from a dude anal.
I’m going to LOL when the movie comes out and makes box office opening sales history. That will pretty much blow any argument of piracy hurts sales out of the water.
I wasn’t going to watch it on the big screen.
still might not, but not quite as certain now as I was before.
The leak would’ve helped them if it was a good movie – I’d have to watch it again in the theater on principle, and probably take other people to see it with me.
However, it wasn’t a good movie – poor writing, poor acting, a few disappointments in terms of faithfulness to the original wolverine story… so instead of going to see it in the theater and taking friends with me, I’m staying home, and advising my friends to do the same.
This movies target audience is under 18, hence the weak story and American ending. Young adults will still see this in the theater, as they are there for the action and graphics.
If ‘they’ have any sense they’ll call the actors back and change a few things and the ending before they officially release it–so that the downloaded movie will mean squat to anyone who saw it early. (It’s usually in the actors contracts to have to do these extras…)
But, didn’t see it–and still not going to.
I don’t watch anything unless it is HD, so I’ll wait for the Blu-ray.
Since I wasnt a big fan of any of the other ones I’ll wait a little for the price to drop.
Well, if we consider this to be an extended teaser, its success depends entirely on its worth as portrayed by its pre-release. Therefore if its crap, it will tank, if its good it will rake in bags of gold. Definitely better for movies to be judged on merit instead of hype.
If its a good movie, this kind of thing is great and helps generate buzz and is great.
If its not and its POS, it just lets everyone know thats exactly what it is. A piece of crap.
Simple as that.
Waited a long time for this one…
SNIKT!
Enjoyed the workprint (despite the differences from the comic books…)
Needed something to take my mind off X-men 3… D’oh!
Will definately buy on blue-ray.
MUTIES RULE!
http://torrentfreak.com/poll-will-the-x-men-leak-hurt-the-movies-success-090405/#comment-546575
I agree. This movie was sooooo bad. I was going to watch it in theaters, but now that I know just how cliche and tripe it is, there’s no way in hell I’d spend $10 just to watch it with more flash.
I got it/AND IT SUCKED!
i seen it/AND IT SUCKED!
HopeIT could be Great/AND IT SUCKED!
So in the End, the movie> IT SUCKED!
PLEASE! after May 1st ALL will say
waste of $$ AND……. IT SUCKED!
“As long as the MAFIAA is harrassing innocent people and people that share culture I’m not supporting them…”
they are not innocent if they consume without compensation.
i actually enjoyed this movie so yes i will defo be going to watch it at the movies and yes i will be buying it on dvd as i have the others on dvd as well so i dont think it will hurt the movies success all u ppl saying its crap your so wrong, cos i think its the best 1 they have done.
I’m not into X-Men and I think prequels are lame in general.
I mean, you know Wolverine’s never gonna be in any real danger right from the start, because there he is safe and sound in X-Men 1. It sucks the fun away, damnit.
So I won’t be watching it in the first place, but the leak won’t effect the movie’s success, either. Here’s something that might effect its success, though: Fox firing one of their own reporters for giving it a favourable review(WHAT!? HOW DARE HE!). After that BS, even if I was planning to see it in theaters and buy the DVD, I’d change my plans real quick to only just downloading it.
I wouldn’t go see a movie if I knew it was going to be bad. This sucked and no amount of re-shoots or added special effects are going to change that. This continues the tradition of the big dumb badly written special effects laden action movie that’s geared to the demographic. I liked the first two X-Men movies the third was a big disappointment and Wolverine just furthers the decline of the franchise.
ALWAYS THE SAME DIRECTIVE, “find them , find them , pirats ” Asshole from MPAA and move director… When you produced good movies, we should go in yr cinema.
Hey, TF! What will be if list of users’ IP who answered “Yes, I will download it and won’t watch it in theater/on DVD.” will leaked to hands of FBI or MPAA? :-/
@Anonymous
“they are not innocent if they consume without compensation.”
Your comment is consuming my disk space, bandwidth, and CPU cycles.
So how are you compensating me for it? Oh, you aren’t?
Well, then according to your logic, that means I’ve got a liscense to harass you. In that case, I demand $500 in damages, and if you don’t pay up, I’ll take you to court for $50,000 and you’ll get jail time for sure! You scum! I can destroy your whole future, so you better do what I say!*
*Uh oh… I hope the MAFIAA doesn’t sue me for taking a page out of their playbook. :(
“Your comment is consuming my disk space, bandwidth, and CPU cycles.”
which you agreed to have happen by clicking on this commented-upon topic.
analogy fail.
try again.
Just the opposite, I probably WILL go and see it now… i wasn’t really caring to much about this movie but now that I’ve seen the behind the scenes work on it, it will get me interested in the technical side of the effects and it lets me understand how they do those effects. But i want to see the final work of these effects, and whats the best way to see them besides on the big screen?
Not interested in Hollywood crap. I’ve been boycotting both RIAA and MPAA since 2000. If your going to boycott, boycott and don’t download their crap. When they notice the numbers dropping in downloads, theatre attendance and CD/DVD sales, they will get the message loud and clear. It’s just the same rehashed/remade/recycled industry hyped bullshit. The pricks deserve to go bankrupt.
Hmm… why isn’t there a 5th option for “No I didn’t download it because I’d rather watch a complete and correct version”?
@Anonymous:
“which you agreed to have happen by clicking on this commented-upon topic.
analogy fail.
try again.”
He didn’t click, he scrolled down and then had to be forced to see your comment because it was the next in line.
Hugh Jackman tosses Billy Ray Cyrus’s salad.
“It is especially ridiculous to consider each transfer a lost sale especially when it is… unfinished.”
“How DO you sell something that’s unfinished, anyway?”
Ask MICROSOFT, they have the expertise! :-)))
And this Wolverine movie is so lame. Terrible. Is like a episode of SMALLVILLE plus COMMANDO. And that´s not a good thing.
Admittedly I was kind of ‘meh’ about seeing it, even with decent trailers. But watching the film has me wanting to see it in theaters for the full effect.
AND put to rest that big WTF moment of why they’d put out such a weird Deadpool figure in the movie’s toyline.
I thought it was cool to watch with the staging points for FX. But watch it in the theatre? $12 a ticket and $10 bucket of popcorn with a pop? Nope, why should we have to pay the same price we paid for theatre tickets when everything else, including the price of my home has almost been cut in half. I think it’s time that the movie industry and the movie house industry that they are also part of the greed machine that effecting this economy. They leaked it, now we watch it for free, their problem, not ours. Next time maybe they’ll do their job right.
Exactly, screw Fox, screw Marvel, screw Stan Lee and screw you. I downloaded it and now I’m seeding it on 100mb connection for all to enjoy. It’s Fox’s fault, not ours. If they weren’t such greedy bastages in the first place then places like Piratebay wouldn’t ever exist. But to pay an actor $30 million for sitting on his ass in his trailer and then making the public pony up the money to pay his salary, to heck with it. Screw the entire entertainment industry, they are worst than our gov’t.
If it flops, it will be “because” of piracy.
If it succeeds, it will be “in spite” of it.
Piracy can’t win either way, so this poll is pointless.
Didn’t do the survey, none of the choices worked. Here’s my prediction though:
If the movie is good then the pirated copies will generate buzz and will help box office sales.
If the movie sucks then the pirated copies will generate negative buzz and muffle the impact of the release — the film will suffer at the box office.
What will not happen: There will be NO meaningful loss of box office revenue because people watched the pirated copy rather than going to the theater.
Hi, I’m from Hollywood.
I just wanted you smart-asses to know, among other things, that we deliberately “leaked” the unfinished film and also got our marketing crew to post positive, pro-purchase film reviews here and on other sites like this.
Do you really think we don’t read sites like these? Come on!
Now, if you’re thinking that this is just some kind of tongue-in-cheek conspiracy-theory-cum-joke posted by a fellow file-sharer, well, maybe that’s true and maybe it isn’t. Maybe it isn’t viral/guerilla marketing or that we in Hollywood are just as stupid as we seem.
Then again, maybe that’s to our advantage.
We doubt that it’s in our best interest to completely shut down the p2p thing, because ultimately, we may be able to use it to our advantage and profit– and perhaps already are.
By putting different forms of pressure on your community and governments, who knows, maybe we can leverage some of that technology that comes about– shake things up and confuse the pirates so to speak.
In any case, we’re bigger than you pirates, and we’ve got far more power, money and influence to prove it.
So STFU and buy our films, such as if you like our unfinished versions.
Oh, and don’t make your own films either, because that would be competition, and we’ll have to do something about that too– like purchase lots of shares in Google’s You Tube.
Where’s the option for ‘now that ive downloaded it, i know how terrible it is, so i wont be wasting money to go see it’
I usually get a moderate quality rip off bittorrent and if I like it I wait for netflix to get the blue-ray so I can watch it on the main system.
If I still like it, I buy the actual movie.
Since the advent of high definition, large screen televisions that are affordable in home, I really haven’t had the urge to go to the movies.
In fact, the only time I’ve gone to the cinema in the last three years has been when I go out on a date.
I think movie theaters aren’t worth the hassle or the expense, and I couldn’t imagine going just to watch a movie. For a date? Sure. But not for the entertainment.
I’m not a fan of super hero movies, so nope, not going to see it regardless.
This might help the movie. You know an unfinished Half-Life2 leaked…
I get movies like this from the Public Library sooner or later.
I’m not interested in the leak other than the story behind it. That is, I wouldn’t download an unfinished film or cam’d film. To me, it’s just a spoiler.
I haven’t been to the theater since Pulp Fiction and I don’t buy new DVD’s. I buy them from the bargain bins later on.
Now, unfinished music, that would be great. Music demos and early versions of great songs are my favorite.
Haven’t even bothered to download the leak. Going to pirate a dvd rip when FXG or aXXo or whoever put it up. Maybe I’ll watch the leak after and compare.
Better question; will the x-men leak hurt the number of peers that download rips/cams?
this movie did suck,
take 1 disgruntled freak show mutant (helps if he is a dumb ass aussie)
take 1 hot chick and have a tragedy, either death from the freak or his brother, or a bad betrayal scene.
take 1 demented sicko relative with a grudge and even more freakish mutant power
add some acetate and a few NASA GPUs and you have a boring obvious predicable formula driven mind vomit.
boring and shit, I woulnt pay money to sit in a cinema and watch this tripe next to some dude eating fast food for 1.5 hours. Sorry hollywood, you desearve to have this ripped and shared.
oh and they didnt even bother rendering some of the special effects and you can see the wires, whats with that (JK ok?)
I posted a review here of the actual workprint. Beside the fact that the workprint sucks without cgi, the movie just plain sucks. How many people will not watch it because they saw how horrible it was in the workprint?
There’s a missing option, “I would of watched it in theater/DVD if it was good enough to pay for.” I watched the pirated version and was disgusted by the lack of accuracy in relation of the other film and the actual comics the movie incorperated. Pathetic for a movie to make stuff up to make the film entertaining. I’m glad I pirated this, it saved me money paying for it. This is coming from soemone who has the first 3 x-men movies on DVD after watching a pirated copy first.
I haven’t seen a movie in at least a decade that I would consider worthy of suffering through the cost and tedium of a theater visit.
If they stop making shitty movies and start releasing good ones on the internet for immediate paid download then I might have a new way to spend money. Until then, the movie industry and me don’t have a future together.
This movie probably doesn’t deserve a record box-office performance, and I sure hope it doesn’t get one.
The only thing that might make this movie worth seeing is the special effects, and I don’t want to cheat myself by watching an unfinished version.
When released, if IMDB gives it >6.5, I’ll probably see it in the theatre, otherwise I’ll wait for xmas when my deadbeat bro will probably think the bargain-bin DVD would make an appropriate gift. If even he is not moved enough to buy it for me, then it’s probably not worth even thinking about it.
None of the above.
I had planned to watch the movie in the theater from the beginning, the leak has no effect on me one way or the other…for this movie.
Other titles I might preview however.
@70 I fully agree movies should be released as an HD download at the same time as in theatres, so I can watch it in my own home theatre. For a price a little cheaper than in the theatre.
But then again, here in Canada our internet is capped too low to download movies (60GB/month for ~$50)
So how are they suppossed to be doing all that US military crap for the Love of their country when they are canadians? This makes no sense. The best part of the movie was seeing the wires and CGI stuff, cause the the movie wasn’t that good.
“Fox … has called in the FBI to find out where the leak originated.”
The FBI? Since when are the Federal cops doing the bidding of a private corporation? Fox makes enough money and can afford to fund its own dang investigation!
This is an outrage — get with it Fox! If you work in the digital world then your stuff is gonna get leaked! (I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more often.) You can’t ask ther government (FBI) to step in and bail you out (investigate the leak)! Do it your own self! Better yet, use this as an opportunity to try out a new marketing idea!
PS: They should be paying everyone who watched the leaked copy and gave it a positive review. Free advertising, as in free beer.
Cry babies, the FBI has grown-up things to deal with.
Hi, I’m from Hollywood, and I have a confession:
We deliberately leaked the upcoming XMen Origins: Wolverine workprint.
This was in order to kill two pirates with one sword. (pardon the pun)
The first was to subtly suggest how a film was made– the kind of work that goes into the process– an inside look so to speak (so that you’d appreciate it more and be more likely to part with your money), and the second was, at the same time, to scare you by lightly suggesting what would happen if a film ran out of money halfway through production, because of piracy and lack of support.
Did you notice the quality of our leak? Well, that’s a glimpse of your future if piracy is not put under tight control and punishable by law. The FBI story was fantasy, but it could have been reality.
The kind of substandard unprofessional productions that you see on You Tube from average people like youselves will be all you’re going to get if you let our industry disappear because of piracy.
Think about it, and make the right choice before you ruin it for yourselves and everyone else.
I thought the movie was OK…IMO the fact it wasn’t finished made it a more interesting watch..and it’s interesting to see what difference the special effects actually make.
@76 – Stfu asshole. your a loser kid in his basement playing Dungeons and Dragons and wacking off to Fantastic Four’s Jessica Alba, get a life.
As for the movie, i will def be seeing it in theatres and downloading the released copy to compare the two, the storyline was dry and irrelevent, but i enjoyed seeing the half finished CGI and stuff.
Although i haven’t downloaded it (don’t really plan to, wanna go see it in the movies with the HUGE FREAKING SCREENS), if a movie were to be ‘accidentally’ leaked onto the interwebs without special effects, they should leave out the ending as to entice viewers :P
@Mike501
It was a joke of course, if based on some of what I’ve been reading online and over at TPB.
Some of your industry-donations might be put toward lawsuits and government lobbying against us folks here, and that concerns me enough to post what I did.
You wrote:
“As for the movie, i will def be seeing it in theatres and downloading the released copy to compare the two”.
And who again did you say, wacks off to Fantastic Four’s Jessica Alba?
I don’t even know what she looks like. :)
@Fantasy and fantasy
“Hi, I’m from Hollywood, and I have a confession:
We deliberately leaked the upcoming XMen Origins: Wolverine workprint.”
So the Fox reporter who got fired for reviewing it, was that all part of the master plan, too?
It wasn’t leaked on purpose, and you aren’t from Hollywood. In the future, please construct your lies a little better.
“It was a joke of course”
I’m not sure I even believe that, since instead of being something even kind of funny, the punchline is just “stop filesharing”. If it’s a joke, then you rode the Deadpan Bus a little too far and forgot to get off at Discernable Sarcasm.
@Anonymous:
The point was to construct them poorly enough to get as a joke, but at the same time to suggest a possible reality in all seriousness.
Did you see the anti-pirating video on this site– the one with the guys in the boat and the Jaws soundtrack– as if to suggest a film with a lower budget?
One might also like to look into any sources that confirms someone actually got fired. I mean, is Fox saying that Fox fired a Fox employee?
I presume you read this:
“On Friday it was rumored that an FBI investigation led to a raid on a Dallas data center, but this turned out not to be true.”
@Anonymous
“If it’s a joke, then you rode the Deadpan Bus a little too far and forgot to get off at Discernable Sarcasm.”
:)
I’m trying not to spoon-feed.
I said it before that I wonder who sent it out
Cost of 30 second add on 1 channel in one country $75K
Cost of releasing unfinished film $0.00
Resulting world wide advertisement on news channels and mass comment $0.00
Resulting stories in the press with follow ups for weeks $0.00 (Including TorrentFreak)
Resulting sales when true film comes out Priceless
Sales will only go up with this as most people will do what they would do normally.
Downloader’s will download
Theatre goers will go to the Theatre
DVD buyers will buy DVD’s
The ones affected will be attracted by the extra press, the more press the more extra sales.
Even if the press is bad it will not put anyone off and just by being there it will draw them in.
So I wonder who sent it out … I think I can guess, can you..?
Apparently, the film leaked on April Fool’s Day if Torrentfreak is to be believed by its April 1st article:
“Here at TorrentFreak we’ve been monitoring this leak and since the movie hit BitTorrent just a few hours ago…”
From the article entitled:
‘Unfinished X-Men Movie a Hit On BitTorrent’
Is your spider-sense tingling yet? ;)
Bobe-On
@Up The Pirates:
Good points.
1. would have pirated anyway
2. was gona watch in theatre anyway
3. was gona buy dvd anyway…(unless i get hd quality pirate version before) and as far as i know all my friends were and are gona watch it in theatre anyway…IT IS GOOD MOVIE WT* ARE THEY CONCERNED ABOUT?
I’ll wait for an R5/Screener with the action bits before I decide whether or not to spend money and buy the thing
If they had any sense when they do the DVD release they’ll stick the pre-released version on the disks as an extra. Lots of fans enjoy seeing the making of things.
For all of those who think they can predict where the film revenues are going to fall, should get a job on Wall Street.
And for that idiot that said he was from “hollywood”, big woop. I’m from NYC. No matter what you think, the fact remains, I saw the film in great quality via free download.
I will never pay a dime to see it in a movie house along with the other millions of American sheep who choose to make that lemmings based decision.
Who cares about everyone else and what they do including you, I once again am $20 bucks ahead of the system (including popcorn, soda, cab ride).
And in regard to you Hollywooders buying stock in Google’s YouTube, well you can’t, you can only buy stock in Google. But wait didn’t Google lose half it’s value in the last few months???
STFU and let us watch you’re movies online for free. It’s our money, not yours.
Why does the Feds have to be involved? Once again our tax dollars at work. Also why does Fox have to investigate ANYONE outside of their own company? They leaked the movie themselves and now they are going to come down on someone from outside their org? Greed, pure and simple. A shining star example of AIG and company. And now they want to blame everyone but themselves.
I agree with 92, Theres a good chance the leak was internal. Any producer with the slightest bit of sense would keep the movie on servers that aren’t connected to the internet (local only) so leaks can’t happen.
I didn’t download it and so far have no plans to go see it in theaters either (unless my father or one of my friends REALLY wants to go). Like certain others here, I will wait until a blu-ray release and download that instead (I don’t have a blu-ray drive/player nor a HD television so downloading and watching on my PC is the only possibly way I can get and enjoy HD movies).
if its as bad as people say then im sure they will loose sales since people know how bad it is before considering seeing it in the cinema
It’s was going to be pirated anyway. I havent been to the cinema for about 5 years. Its cheaper to stay home and get pirated movies.
Will it affect theater release? Of course!
Will it affect theater release in negative way? Of course not.
The main issue is not whether it will hurt the movie showings or not. It’s the fact that the movie companies are still chasing old business models – and while trying to protect those, alienate their customers.
As sad as it must be for them to give up the huge margins that blockbusters get in the box offices – the studios that wake up and start promoting lower margins direct to online distribution for a fair price model will become the new market leaders.
Well , Nothing can be like going to the Cinema and having fun on Weekends … Pirating doesn’t mean people Don’t Support the good movie… I think it’ll be #1 on the box office soon
Will I watch it on theater?
No ( Coz I don’t remember when was the last time actually I went there ! )
Will I then buy it on Blu Ray ?
Hell Yeah! That will do justice to my 50″ plasma and bose speakers.
Maybe the fact that this has made news on the internet can serve as an insentive. Its just like releasing a demo of a band. They release a few tracks and see if people’ll like that or not and hopefully they would improve that on subsequent releases. I would pirate it anyway, and I truly hope it HURTS some pockets because that is ultimately what the industry deserves for ruining artistic careers and lives.
the only weird thing there is the coincidence between the leak and the prosecution of P2P…
have you seen this news yet? A Fox News film critic who pirated the film to review it has lost their job:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/06/1246232
dont have so haven’t seen it. if it is any good, will go to watch it. if it isn’t, reports will soon be posted saying as much, so wont bother. like all so called pirated releases, gives people a chance to watch before wasting hard earned cash on seeing rubbish at the cinema or buying well over priced disks!
they need the FBI to tell them the leak came from someone working on the movie?
first they attack their consumers, now they are attacking themselves
No, because some scenes we missing the completed CGI…bah a spoiler
Haven’t been to a theatre for years, nothing worthwhile from hollywood just regurgitated crap with the same crappy faces on the screen, boring boring boring. HBO’s stuff is much better, fresh faces and originality.
This is going to be interesting.
If the film is a gigantic success, what will Fox say about bit torrent then? How could Hollywood ever again blame bit torrent for box office failure or even down turns? Will courts around the world and governments come to their senses about making file-sharing illegal? It will be indeed interesting to see what precedent this will cause. If X-Men: Origins is a huge success, in spite of its leak, will Hollywood even see a new marketing tool, releasing workprints of all special effects movies before the major release?
This indeed will be very interesting to see.
Much better to watch movies at home where I have the pause, stop, and delete buttons under my thumb, I can also drink alcohol, eat, fart..you get the picture I’m sure. Up Yours Hollywood.
No. I have not downloaded it nor was I planning on going and seeing it.
I’ve seen the leak and I’m more interested in seeing how the final product would turn out… Post-production helps a movie a lot. ;p
Hmmm, I think the “leak” is working. What are you all talking about? Thousands and thousands of peers, hundreds if not millions of downloads. I think the “leak” is worth its weight in free word of mouth marketing.
So, NO download. How is this even Movie making now? Will we have 20 comic book “Serious Business” movies in the next 3 years? Be creative, stop making shitty remakes of classic comics. If there is an Iron Man II (which there will be) I will seriously detonate a Cold Fission Device… in my pants.
How about, we go to the theater, we watch it. After that we mail torrentfreak.com with the scanned copy of the ticket(with the serial visible), and we sign as pirates from all over the world, and thank them.
TorrentFreak then mail it to MPA.
How about that ?
Leaks hurt movies that suck and help movies that are good but are weak in the trailers. IE: BOLT — I know people that saw it online before they went to see it and they still got the DVD and went to the theater to see it.
Studies need to stop talking about what they should have sold. How many of those so called losses are really just people that were never going to buy a ticket in the first place?
Viral marketing at work folks. Helps keep me in a job too. That’s what you call WIN/WIN. Cheers.
Theres like 6 billion people on this planet waiting to see the movie at cinemas
Im pretty sure the movie will be a success
I believe that xmen and especially the character wolverine have great fanboy base. So leaked or not, many people are going to cinemas and/or buying the dvd. Now the thing that is a workprint and unfinished movie, personally i will not bother to see it and i prefer dvdrip release. We wintnessed the creation of a pirated version that is BEFORE CAM verison….what will we see on the future??
Wolverine Let Loose Early Via Piracy
http://www.judiciaryreport.com/wolverine_let_loose_early_via_piracy.htm
I suspect this is going to be a major disaster for MPAA and the studios, but not in the obvious way. Pretty much everyone who’s seen the workprint will be fascinated to see how the finished work will look!
Additionally all the publicity around the movie is probably going to bring in even more people to see it. This has the potential of turning out to be the best case yet to prove downloading does not hurt sales!
After this unprecedented leak and widespread pre-release piracy, if this movie still does well in the box office, the MPAA is going to have a _very_ tough time keeping on claiming how piracy hurts cinema…
Please send this (admittedly unscientific) vote to Fox, they should constantly be reminded of the ignorance of their decisions.
Not worth downloading or watching in theatre.
Forget about bits of the CGI missing, this film has so many plot holes it makes crazy!
Okay, interesting to see exactly how Wolverine got all Adamantiumed after the teasers in the previous films. But otherwise, it’s just painfully contrived rubbish.
I would have been angry if I’d been to see this in the cinema and am grateful that the release saved me money and time.
I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m sure I’m not alone in this. I downloaded this copy, clicked through to make sure it wasn’t an april fools day prank, and have it sitting on my harddrive unwatched.
Once I either see it on the big screen, or the R5/retail hits, I’ll watch it as a personal bonus feature. I’d rather not kill the movie by watching the workprint, which is incomplete in many ways.
I’m also sure there’s a large chunk of people that already watched the workprint, and will be watching either an illegal copy of better quality, or a legit method of viewing.
I don’t see this hurting the movie at all, other than destroying any chance of a secretive plot
Personally, I would of pirated it b4 anything else, but, after seeing that WP, I plan on going to theaters as soon as I can!!!
I just want to let you know that X-Men Origins: Wolverine is being transmited in Tv Channels in Bolivia.
In Bolivia many Tv Channels are used to buy pirated DVDs, and they are now passing this film by Tv.
i really can’t believe people saw it and actually said they liked it! this movie was utter garbage…as though the filmmakers were not trying at all…forget about the special effects, or even deadpool, the entire plot and character involvement is an incoherent mess…they never even thoroughly explain ANYTHING about sabretooth and the other mutant appearances are utterly pointless…o yea…the dialog too…watch out for that
the movie was great, and no i am not going to pay 50 dallors for popcorn to see a movie
Taken was not hurt by its availability on torrent before its release. So , NO!!
I’m surely going to watch it in theathers or go and buy it (I think even both). The last three I found really good. The WP is more for the collection, but also makes me want to see how the end up versoin is going to be.
I rarely go to theaters. i’ll buy the blu-ray. I have no interest in hearing stupid ringtones, chomping popcorn, wittless chatter, seeing black spots flake across screen or sitting in a tiny chair with no place to stand up and stretch for 2 hours, let alone paying $12 to experience such discomfort.
the environment itself of “going” to a movie kills their movie sales. why don’t they just release a movie online in common video formats? home-theatre-like.
First of all i don’t buy that I would never go see this in the first place. Just the suspense that hangs over the film of WHAT WILL THE SPECIAL EFFECTS LOOK LIKE will bring people who love the story of X-men, and who downloaded it out in groves. I happened to know a few people that work for FOX, and I don’t know what they know, but I do know alot of shady things go on behind those doors. This will be the biggest blockbuster ths year second only to Transformers 2. Oh, there will be no leak of that movie…sad. This movie Origins is HOT, FOX little experiment of lets leak this version to see what kind of response we will get, will not backfire on them, because first of all there are millions of people who do not download movies, and they will go see it. I forecast a 40 million opening weekend…who am I…it says BIG T that is all you need to know!!!
One more thing I wanna add…when this movie drops, it will be a success 1-because it already has a built in audience, and when its successful, we the people who download movieswill have more access to “sneak previews” because other studios will start dropping hotly anticipated movies in this manner. It won’t happen to all thei movies, only the ones they know will be cash cows, so yesm you can look for more movies in the future, and remember BIG T said it first, because hey I got the inside scoop, and we the customers who go to the theaters win in the end.
The fact that the leak was unfinished and missing special effects will actually end up helping it’s success.
The people who download the leak, watch it, and like it, will want to go to the theater and watch it again just to see the finished product with special effects.
I say they’re earning too much money anyway,with all the special effects and shit,it’s getting too easy to make a blockbuster without even having a good script…what happened to real movies without any overpriced sfx shit but with an actual plot,interesting characters…fuck hollywood, I’m glad we robbed them of their precious coke money and overpriced designer trinkets,down with the whores of babylon!
“Fox is expecting a financial disaster…”
Wow, must be a really #$@!!% movie. ;-) But of course quality doesn’t matter. All that matters is quantity… of money.
Anyone needs another example of how copyright utterly destroys the true art? Ads make people go and watch #$@! and mediacompanies sell them #$@! every day.
No wonder they’re scared of leaks… :-)
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Im a college student, cant afford to go to the cinema.. Just downloaded it, watching it, and wont go to cinema.. thanks for the free movie :P
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