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	<title>Comments on: Popular Torrents Start to Disappear From Mininova</title>
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		<title>By: tedjones</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-563079</link>
		<dc:creator>tedjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i downloaded a game using a popular bittorrent client to check it out. i clicked on the finished file and got notified there was a virus and a trojan detected, i deleted the whole file and that was that.
i received a letter from my isp one week later threatening me. it took two days to remove the trojan that got in but the virus was blocked by FREE software....i may have even bought the game to try, but because of the letter i received, there&#039;s no chance of that, and any other gameing software i may have purchased that is represented by the entertainment software association ...the entity that reported. i will just play free games or games not associated with esa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i downloaded a game using a popular bittorrent client to check it out. i clicked on the finished file and got notified there was a virus and a trojan detected, i deleted the whole file and that was that.<br />
i received a letter from my isp one week later threatening me. it took two days to remove the trojan that got in but the virus was blocked by FREE software&#8230;.i may have even bought the game to try, but because of the letter i received, there&#8217;s no chance of that, and any other gameing software i may have purchased that is represented by the entertainment software association &#8230;the entity that reported. i will just play free games or games not associated with esa.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-562935</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an alternative site, I found this:- http://www.genesis-sp.org/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an alternative site, I found this:- <a href="http://www.genesis-sp.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.genesis-sp.org/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: blogg &#124; animadverto corporate blog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-562909</link>
		<dc:creator>blogg &#124; animadverto corporate blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mininova Court Trial Postponed Until June &#124; InstantIdiocy</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-562154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mininova Court Trial Postponed Until June &#124; InstantIdiocy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] world&#8217;s largest BitTorrent index. As a consequence, thousands of popular movie and TV titles disappeared from the site [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mininova telif hakk?na boyun e?di - Sorbize.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561990</link>
		<dc:creator>mininova telif hakk?na boyun e?di - Sorbize.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Tech Town &#187; Mininova Court Trial Postponed Until June</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561956</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tech Town &#187; Mininova Court Trial Postponed Until June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] world&#8217;s largest BitTorrent index. As a consequence, thousands of popular movie and TV titles disappeared from the site [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tech Whiz Underground &#187; Mininova Court Trial Postponed Until June</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561923</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Whiz Underground &#187; Mininova Court Trial Postponed Until June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] world&#8217;s largest BitTorrent index. As a consequence, thousands of popular movie and TV titles disappeared from the site [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mininova telif hakk?na boyun e?di &#171; Blog Katalog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561913</link>
		<dc:creator>mininova telif hakk?na boyun e?di &#171; Blog Katalog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mininova telif hakk?na boyun e?di &#124; Kodkaynak.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561736</link>
		<dc:creator>mininova telif hakk?na boyun e?di &#124; Kodkaynak.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 04:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] açt??? bu davada kendilerine avantaj sa?lamak için davan?n hemen öncesinde siteye yeni bir sistem eklemi?ler. bu &#8220;hizmete&#8221; göre tv yap?mc?s? diledi?i takdirde ilgili tüm torrentler siteden [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Towler</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561376</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Towler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 04:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mininova fails again - back to The Pirate Bay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mininova fails again &#8211; back to The Pirate Bay.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-561240</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People people people...wake up and smell the coffee...piracy is now, and has EVER been, an UNDERGROUND activity...it cannot survive in the light of the industry, and it cannot EVER be a mainstream thing to do. The bottom line, that nobody wants to face is that piracy IS illegal and has been for years. I hate to be the bearer of the Devil&#039;s news, but if you want change in the copyright scene, you are going to have to FIGHT for it..on LEGAL grounds, in courtrooms, and in Parlimentary and Congressional arenas. The ONLY way ANYTHING is going to change is to have the Copyright Act either overturned, or overhauled to reflect current day. And by reflect current day, I mean include language that outlaws the usual methods that are used by the media industries when dealing with artists. If this fight is TRULY over artists and customers rights, then y&#039;all are going at it the wrong way. The path to change lays down the legislative route. Without doing it the legal way, you&#039;re never going to see the change you want. So...lawyers that are reading this..you might want to get busy. Those of you who have access to lawmakers..I&#039;d give some thought to encouraging them to review the Copyright laws...in depth and at length. It&#039;s time to put the corporate pricks in their place, and do it the only way that works..by force of government. The law is the only weapon that works against big industry..I think that is...as the age old word goes..self evident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People people people&#8230;wake up and smell the coffee&#8230;piracy is now, and has EVER been, an UNDERGROUND activity&#8230;it cannot survive in the light of the industry, and it cannot EVER be a mainstream thing to do. The bottom line, that nobody wants to face is that piracy IS illegal and has been for years. I hate to be the bearer of the Devil&#8217;s news, but if you want change in the copyright scene, you are going to have to FIGHT for it..on LEGAL grounds, in courtrooms, and in Parlimentary and Congressional arenas. The ONLY way ANYTHING is going to change is to have the Copyright Act either overturned, or overhauled to reflect current day. And by reflect current day, I mean include language that outlaws the usual methods that are used by the media industries when dealing with artists. If this fight is TRULY over artists and customers rights, then y&#8217;all are going at it the wrong way. The path to change lays down the legislative route. Without doing it the legal way, you&#8217;re never going to see the change you want. So&#8230;lawyers that are reading this..you might want to get busy. Those of you who have access to lawmakers..I&#8217;d give some thought to encouraging them to review the Copyright laws&#8230;in depth and at length. It&#8217;s time to put the corporate pricks in their place, and do it the only way that works..by force of government. The law is the only weapon that works against big industry..I think that is&#8230;as the age old word goes..self evident.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560978</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“In a few words, these guys (TF) have been playing with our emotions for convenience.”

LOL.

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@174

I assume that you are cynic for getting fun from a serious situation, or maybe you are retarded for not getting the message...

Dingo said it right. TF on purpose allows the intrusion of trolls from entertainment industry cartels, who sabotage the discussions and advertise misinformation and lies about filesharing.

Now; why does TF &quot;allegedly&quot; being a pro-filesharing site allow something so destructive for the filesharing movement?

That is obviously a big contradiction... don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In a few words, these guys (TF) have been playing with our emotions for convenience.”</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
@174</p>
<p>I assume that you are cynic for getting fun from a serious situation, or maybe you are retarded for not getting the message&#8230;</p>
<p>Dingo said it right. TF on purpose allows the intrusion of trolls from entertainment industry cartels, who sabotage the discussions and advertise misinformation and lies about filesharing.</p>
<p>Now; why does TF &#8220;allegedly&#8221; being a pro-filesharing site allow something so destructive for the filesharing movement?</p>
<p>That is obviously a big contradiction&#8230; don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560933</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sure, as email addresses cannot be created anonymously or simply faked.&quot;

-----------

That a stupid comment.

Email addresses CAN be created anonymously. Get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sure, as email addresses cannot be created anonymously or simply faked.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>That a stupid comment.</p>
<p>Email addresses CAN be created anonymously. Get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Whooooo</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560877</link>
		<dc:creator>Whooooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every one Better start Downloading (and seeding) like crazy before it becomes impossible</description>
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		<title>By: Ya funciona el filtrado en Mininova &#124; Antorcha Planet Servicios</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ya funciona el filtrado en Mininova &#124; Antorcha Planet Servicios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía &#124; TorrentFreak. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560834</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why people dont go underground with ddl hosters, usenet, and private trackers is beyond me.&quot;

Why people have this delusion about private trackers somehow being underground is beoynd me. Get it through your elitist thick heads that you are still broadcasting your IP address all over the Internet, no matter what tracker you use: it&#039;s simply how the protocol works!

&quot;In a few words, these guys (TF) have been playing with our emotions for convenience.&quot;

LOL.

&quot;Is there no way to link email addresses to the names we use to post, to ensure the fakes are caught before publishing?&quot;

Sure, as email addresses cannot be created anonymously or simply faked. What a brilliant idea again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why people dont go underground with ddl hosters, usenet, and private trackers is beyond me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why people have this delusion about private trackers somehow being underground is beoynd me. Get it through your elitist thick heads that you are still broadcasting your IP address all over the Internet, no matter what tracker you use: it&#8217;s simply how the protocol works!</p>
<p>&#8220;In a few words, these guys (TF) have been playing with our emotions for convenience.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is there no way to link email addresses to the names we use to post, to ensure the fakes are caught before publishing?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, as email addresses cannot be created anonymously or simply faked. What a brilliant idea again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mininova running scared-TorrentFreak &#171; FACT &#8211; Freedom Against Censorship Thailand</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560815</link>
		<dc:creator>Mininova running scared-TorrentFreak &#171; FACT &#8211; Freedom Against Censorship Thailand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: vxl's status on Thursday, 14-May-09 13:03:43 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>vxl's status on Thursday, 14-May-09 13:03:43 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Submit Links, Add Upload Submit, Funny Game Movie TV Links, Heroes &#124; Linkheroes.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Submit Links, Add Upload Submit, Funny Game Movie TV Links, Heroes &#124; Linkheroes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 04:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New breed of LOL Cat Internet:       Popular Torrents Start to Disappear From Mininova Funny:          Volcano Boarding Games:         Why BioShock 2 is a terrible idea [...]</description>
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		<title>By: lyecdevf</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyecdevf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always used mininova and never even bothered to download stuff at pirate bay but it seems like I am going to have to start using the pirate bay from now on.  Bye mininova...thanks for the memories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always used mininova and never even bothered to download stuff at pirate bay but it seems like I am going to have to start using the pirate bay from now on.  Bye mininova&#8230;thanks for the memories!</p>
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		<title>By: lyecdevf</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyecdevf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always used mininova and never even bothered to download stuff at pirate bay but it seems like I am going to have to start using the pirate bay from now on.  By mininova...thanks for the memories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always used mininova and never even bothered to download stuff at pirate bay but it seems like I am going to have to start using the pirate bay from now on.  By mininova&#8230;thanks for the memories!</p>
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		<title>By: Think about it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think about it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it, can anyone provide proof that downloading copyrighted material for personal use is illegal? Or is it just a troll lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it, can anyone provide proof that downloading copyrighted material for personal use is illegal? Or is it just a troll lie?</p>
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		<title>By: Think about it</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560704</link>
		<dc:creator>Think about it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 141 May 12, 2009 at 19:49 by Reasoned Mind

None of the aspects you alluded to are even mentioned in that article. So once again I ask that you prove your statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 141 May 12, 2009 at 19:49 by Reasoned Mind</p>
<p>None of the aspects you alluded to are even mentioned in that article. So once again I ask that you prove your statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Lns</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560646</link>
		<dc:creator>Lns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://unitedpirate.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://unitedpirate.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://unitedpirate.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: FeedMyTorrents - P2Pfreak.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560572</link>
		<dc:creator>FeedMyTorrents - P2Pfreak.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] goes nowhere and the most recent torrents I got from it were the .txt files from EZTV as per the Torrentfreak article  I hope they&#039;re just redirecting the feeds as it would suck if it was gone for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] goes nowhere and the most recent torrents I got from it were the .txt files from EZTV as per the Torrentfreak article  I hope they&#8217;re just redirecting the feeds as it would suck if it was gone for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Popular Torrents Start to Disappear From Mininova - UB:UK</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560427</link>
		<dc:creator>Popular Torrents Start to Disappear From Mininova - UB:UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the popular TV-show releases and blockbuster movies have been removed and put on a ban list.    Popular Torrents Start to Disappear From Mininova &#124; TorrentFreak   __________________ i HATE man utd  now leave it alone [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the popular TV-show releases and blockbuster movies have been removed and put on a ban list.    Popular Torrents Start to Disappear From Mininova | TorrentFreak   __________________ i HATE man utd  now leave it alone [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560422</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeik: Yeah right. There&#039;s nothing like FLAC files encoded from a tape, with lots of juicy noise and screwed pitch. All that just to get the latest trash from Fail Spears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeik: Yeah right. There&#8217;s nothing like FLAC files encoded from a tape, with lots of juicy noise and screwed pitch. All that just to get the latest trash from Fail Spears.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeik</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560361</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so effective than the Youtube removal of copyrighted audio.

That can be bypassed by those steps using Audacity to insert 5% pitch to the audio, and then reupload the same content...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecE6Y1cMooU

Way to go, MPAA! You will be defeated again! HAHAHA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so effective than the Youtube removal of copyrighted audio.</p>
<p>That can be bypassed by those steps using Audacity to insert 5% pitch to the audio, and then reupload the same content&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecE6Y1cMooU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecE6Y1cMooU</a></p>
<p>Way to go, MPAA! You will be defeated again! HAHAHA!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560316</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;12 weeks is a very long time&quot;

Grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;12 weeks is a very long time&#8221;</p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate Freedom</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560308</link>
		<dc:creator>Pirate Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to remind people.

Copyright was created to secure a &quot;limited&quot; time for the creator of something to explore it commercially not to guarantee pension for him, his family let alone stream revenue for corporations.

It was based on the principle that the creator should have a brief time to explore and gain something from it and pass that creation to be explored by society to better all humans. With 95 years of copyright and loopholes in patents anyone in society benefits how from a body of growing knowledge?

Copyright never was meant to give ownership of knowledge or arts but it&#039;s exactly what some in the industry want you to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to remind people.</p>
<p>Copyright was created to secure a &#8220;limited&#8221; time for the creator of something to explore it commercially not to guarantee pension for him, his family let alone stream revenue for corporations.</p>
<p>It was based on the principle that the creator should have a brief time to explore and gain something from it and pass that creation to be explored by society to better all humans. With 95 years of copyright and loopholes in patents anyone in society benefits how from a body of growing knowledge?</p>
<p>Copyright never was meant to give ownership of knowledge or arts but it&#8217;s exactly what some in the industry want you to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Pirate</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560297</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Pirates have always been selfish and very shortsighted...&quot;

Correction:

Humanity not a subgroup of it. We are learning as we go and we all are selfish and shortsighted that is why we search for answers, no?

&quot;Who cry about Freedom while they hack and steal and impersonate through fraud and destroy everything good about the internet. Except in the direst form of dictatorship, there are processes to hear grievance and opportunities to change laws, and your modest influence in no way justifies your civil disobedience.&quot;

The people who don&#039;t feel that sharing is pirating, people who otherwise would be excluded from knowledge if nobody shared anything, people who don&#039;t wanna see laws like the french one where everyone needs to be an expert in networks and security when even professionals have a hard time with it doubt? please try and set up 2 serves one to store the signatures os hash algorithms and one to compare the two to see if anything is wrong it&#039;s not trivial and could be compromised, people that buys cassetes and have to buy it again in CDs or DVDs forms because they aparently don&#039;t own what they paid for and on that note if a paid for something am I not entitled to make what I want with it? fine line here.

ps: I didn&#039;t even mentioned other things like receiving phone calls from people telling them that the waiting song is copyrighted or having people come to your place of work asking for money because your sound system in the office plays copyrighted material that are the faces of pirates everywhere we all are pirates and who thinks otherwise never bother to try and look up the body of laws in his or her country. There is no way that a citizen today could follow all that and still be productive in society.

As for the means to make grievances heard I don&#039;t think that&#039;s true see ACTA where no input what so ever from the public is beeing put forth. So no I don&#039;t think this people want to hear about it or let alone discuss it even when it is so clear that they have no real power to stop what is happening and are manipulating laws trying to do it wich they can do it because they&#039;re more organized than the people and I do feel that this time around there is no going back to the old ways, people will not stop sharing(pirating) it is what people do they see something they like it and want to share with as many as they can, they want to be cool or they want to enrich other peoples life and of course there are alternatives but they really are not in an stage that is palatable to the great public yet but are improving here and there opensource movie making started to appear(Buck&#039;s Bunny), maybe in the future people will donate first to get the movie done and than this could be distributed all over after all people who done it have already been paid the rest is greed like have a copyright law the permits 95 years of protection after the death of the creator which means the cultural heritage of society is being robbed off them.

Life is balance and it&#039;s clear for a growing number of people that this balance is broken and the consequences of doing nothing is the total lost of the peoples freedom and without this freedom the capacity to better ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Pirates have always been selfish and very shortsighted&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Correction:</p>
<p>Humanity not a subgroup of it. We are learning as we go and we all are selfish and shortsighted that is why we search for answers, no?</p>
<p>&#8220;Who cry about Freedom while they hack and steal and impersonate through fraud and destroy everything good about the internet. Except in the direst form of dictatorship, there are processes to hear grievance and opportunities to change laws, and your modest influence in no way justifies your civil disobedience.&#8221;</p>
<p>The people who don&#8217;t feel that sharing is pirating, people who otherwise would be excluded from knowledge if nobody shared anything, people who don&#8217;t wanna see laws like the french one where everyone needs to be an expert in networks and security when even professionals have a hard time with it doubt? please try and set up 2 serves one to store the signatures os hash algorithms and one to compare the two to see if anything is wrong it&#8217;s not trivial and could be compromised, people that buys cassetes and have to buy it again in CDs or DVDs forms because they aparently don&#8217;t own what they paid for and on that note if a paid for something am I not entitled to make what I want with it? fine line here.</p>
<p>ps: I didn&#8217;t even mentioned other things like receiving phone calls from people telling them that the waiting song is copyrighted or having people come to your place of work asking for money because your sound system in the office plays copyrighted material that are the faces of pirates everywhere we all are pirates and who thinks otherwise never bother to try and look up the body of laws in his or her country. There is no way that a citizen today could follow all that and still be productive in society.</p>
<p>As for the means to make grievances heard I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s true see ACTA where no input what so ever from the public is beeing put forth. So no I don&#8217;t think this people want to hear about it or let alone discuss it even when it is so clear that they have no real power to stop what is happening and are manipulating laws trying to do it wich they can do it because they&#8217;re more organized than the people and I do feel that this time around there is no going back to the old ways, people will not stop sharing(pirating) it is what people do they see something they like it and want to share with as many as they can, they want to be cool or they want to enrich other peoples life and of course there are alternatives but they really are not in an stage that is palatable to the great public yet but are improving here and there opensource movie making started to appear(Buck&#8217;s Bunny), maybe in the future people will donate first to get the movie done and than this could be distributed all over after all people who done it have already been paid the rest is greed like have a copyright law the permits 95 years of protection after the death of the creator which means the cultural heritage of society is being robbed off them.</p>
<p>Life is balance and it&#8217;s clear for a growing number of people that this balance is broken and the consequences of doing nothing is the total lost of the peoples freedom and without this freedom the capacity to better ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: icecream</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560293</link>
		<dc:creator>icecream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CasualT;

People like you will bring an end to BT.

Neik van der Maas is hypocritical. First he comments that filtering has nothing to do with court case, second he states it is only for a very limited period of time and for selected torrents. Now, 12 weeks is a very long time, and AFAIK all illegal content is filtered out. 

So CasualT, you are just an immature kid, that feels loyal to Mininova, because you could download all those My Little Pony episodes, and you will say and do anything because in your undeveloped mind it feels like a good thing to do, to stand up for the weak. Thing is, Mininova is not the victim here, users are. 

If you want to stand up for something and do the right thing, but The Pirate Bay T-Shirt, send them some money - they were fighting for a long time, and didn&#039;t give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CasualT;</p>
<p>People like you will bring an end to BT.</p>
<p>Neik van der Maas is hypocritical. First he comments that filtering has nothing to do with court case, second he states it is only for a very limited period of time and for selected torrents. Now, 12 weeks is a very long time, and AFAIK all illegal content is filtered out. </p>
<p>So CasualT, you are just an immature kid, that feels loyal to Mininova, because you could download all those My Little Pony episodes, and you will say and do anything because in your undeveloped mind it feels like a good thing to do, to stand up for the weak. Thing is, Mininova is not the victim here, users are. </p>
<p>If you want to stand up for something and do the right thing, but The Pirate Bay T-Shirt, send them some money &#8211; they were fighting for a long time, and didn&#8217;t give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560281</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about searching for a real tv release group instead of a torrent uploader and renamer such as &quot;EZTV&quot; the past three episodes were release by a group known as &quot;LOL.&quot;  Remove eztv from your search and you might get decent results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about searching for a real tv release group instead of a torrent uploader and renamer such as &#8220;EZTV&#8221; the past three episodes were release by a group known as &#8220;LOL.&#8221;  Remove eztv from your search and you might get decent results.</p>
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		<title>By: Dante.Xaiver</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560261</link>
		<dc:creator>Dante.Xaiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think of Hollywood and Mininova i start to think about the titanic they all are going under</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of Hollywood and Mininova i start to think about the titanic they all are going under</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for their so-called filters - EZTV, aXXo and the other torrent release groups have merely found ways around them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for their so-called filters &#8211; EZTV, aXXo and the other torrent release groups have merely found ways around them.</p>
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		<title>By: sr</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560248</link>
		<dc:creator>sr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://sharereactor.com excellent system for tv shows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sharereactor.com" rel="nofollow">http://sharereactor.com</a> excellent system for tv shows</p>
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		<title>By: Preparen guillotinas: ni liberté ni interné &#171; rebr0/.</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560212</link>
		<dc:creator>Preparen guillotinas: ni liberté ni interné &#171; rebr0/.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lost, Prison Break o Heroes, las más descargadas con diferencia. El miedo a un juicio está ahí y el contenido con copyright está desapareciendo de las búsquedas, pero distintos grupos de la scene, como EZTV, responsable de las releases de muchas de las series [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lost, Prison Break o Heroes, las más descargadas con diferencia. El miedo a un juicio está ahí y el contenido con copyright está desapareciendo de las búsquedas, pero distintos grupos de la scene, como EZTV, responsable de las releases de muchas de las series [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560208</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.I.P. public trackers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.I.P. public trackers.</p>
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		<title>By: Me but not You</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560202</link>
		<dc:creator>Me but not You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank the gods for private trackers that don&#039;t resort to such matters ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank the gods for private trackers that don&#8217;t resort to such matters ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560189</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, TPB is better, at least they have the balls for fighting the MAFIAA and not yield. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, TPB is better, at least they have the balls for fighting the MAFIAA and not yield. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Briggs</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560174</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you guys all liked TPB better...</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560169</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@153,

true... just look in these 3 releasers:

EZTV:
http://www.mininova.org/user/eztv

Dingo_RG:
http://www.mininova.org/user/dingo_rg

AXXO:
http://www.mininova.org/user/axxo

All seems to be there (i believe) ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@153,</p>
<p>true&#8230; just look in these 3 releasers:</p>
<p>EZTV:<br />
<a href="http://www.mininova.org/user/eztv" rel="nofollow">http://www.mininova.org/user/eztv</a></p>
<p>Dingo_RG:<br />
<a href="http://www.mininova.org/user/dingo_rg" rel="nofollow">http://www.mininova.org/user/dingo_rg</a></p>
<p>AXXO:<br />
<a href="http://www.mininova.org/user/axxo" rel="nofollow">http://www.mininova.org/user/axxo</a></p>
<p>All seems to be there (i believe) ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560168</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still see torrents and all the popular shows are there.  Nothing&#039;s really disappeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still see torrents and all the popular shows are there.  Nothing&#8217;s really disappeared.</p>
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		<title>By: wonderwhy-er</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560165</link>
		<dc:creator>wonderwhy-er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@144 Reasoned Mind
Seems you become irritated... Do not insult me I haven&#039;t insulted you and not intending to do so. It just makes it look as if I hit some painful spot. 

As for &quot;majority does not steal&quot; for digital stuff it is not like that. At least here. Basically it depends on people but stuff like TV shows is &quot;pirated&quot; and is &quot;theft&quot;  by terminology of entertainment industry very widely in countries that content was not made and is almost not available trough legal means. I would agree there are types of content(same TV shows in US for example) is not pirated but there are cases when it is very widely pirated. Last example I heard was one new game that was out. It seems they allowed pirates to play online on official servers or something and by their statistics pirates outnumbered legitimate users 6 to 1. So this your position does not stand that majority won&#039;t pirate if they can do so easily and as I said before it seems that it will always be easier to copy information then protect it from coping.

Now I already told that technically precise surveillance on digital transfers is almost impossible because of encryption algorithms. Or how do you think Internet baking and paypal still works if it was not possible. So that part does not stand too. Actually funny here that algorithms banks and government develop to protect their privacy and secrets also allows to make copyright infringement a secret if needed.

As for examples I am still waiting. Haven&#039;t seen any that changed my point of view here so far in mm 10 years or so when industry started to see it as a problem. Yeah there were cases when software companies were closed, sites were closed etc etc but over the years problem become only bigger with newer and newer technologies coming out. So I am still watching to see some examples that actually work.

As for being poorly informed then I am finishing my Master degree in software development(computer graphics, web development, games, immitational simulations are fields of my interests) and am interested in this conflict for at least 4 years discussing it with different people(mostly programmers and people from university tough + blogs).

Also here you missed the point. As I said if you remove human feelings and morals from IP you would see that information can not be truly owned. Sadly it is too much to write all parts of view on a question in generalized form.

Then again I agree that it is in human nature to be greedy and egoistic and that&#039;s from where all this conflict comes as both sides suffer from this human nature... One side is wrong with IP laws that give them monopoly over something that is not truly theirs in first place (instead of giving exposure/money for finding/inventing/sharing something novel) and another side(pirates as it is preferred to call them) being greedy in other way around and often not truly respecting authors and giving them appropriate reward for their efforts.

So my position here is that both sides are wrong actually and if Industries only aim is to tighten the laws all they will succeed on will be be raising resistance from free culture, opensource movements and now pirate parties. And hopefully when those movements will gain as much support(probably even more) then industry lobbies hopefully some real solutions will be found...

P.S Care to share what&#039;s your professional position and also sources of your information on the question of IP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@144 Reasoned Mind<br />
Seems you become irritated&#8230; Do not insult me I haven&#8217;t insulted you and not intending to do so. It just makes it look as if I hit some painful spot. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;majority does not steal&#8221; for digital stuff it is not like that. At least here. Basically it depends on people but stuff like TV shows is &#8220;pirated&#8221; and is &#8220;theft&#8221;  by terminology of entertainment industry very widely in countries that content was not made and is almost not available trough legal means. I would agree there are types of content(same TV shows in US for example) is not pirated but there are cases when it is very widely pirated. Last example I heard was one new game that was out. It seems they allowed pirates to play online on official servers or something and by their statistics pirates outnumbered legitimate users 6 to 1. So this your position does not stand that majority won&#8217;t pirate if they can do so easily and as I said before it seems that it will always be easier to copy information then protect it from coping.</p>
<p>Now I already told that technically precise surveillance on digital transfers is almost impossible because of encryption algorithms. Or how do you think Internet baking and paypal still works if it was not possible. So that part does not stand too. Actually funny here that algorithms banks and government develop to protect their privacy and secrets also allows to make copyright infringement a secret if needed.</p>
<p>As for examples I am still waiting. Haven&#8217;t seen any that changed my point of view here so far in mm 10 years or so when industry started to see it as a problem. Yeah there were cases when software companies were closed, sites were closed etc etc but over the years problem become only bigger with newer and newer technologies coming out. So I am still watching to see some examples that actually work.</p>
<p>As for being poorly informed then I am finishing my Master degree in software development(computer graphics, web development, games, immitational simulations are fields of my interests) and am interested in this conflict for at least 4 years discussing it with different people(mostly programmers and people from university tough + blogs).</p>
<p>Also here you missed the point. As I said if you remove human feelings and morals from IP you would see that information can not be truly owned. Sadly it is too much to write all parts of view on a question in generalized form.</p>
<p>Then again I agree that it is in human nature to be greedy and egoistic and that&#8217;s from where all this conflict comes as both sides suffer from this human nature&#8230; One side is wrong with IP laws that give them monopoly over something that is not truly theirs in first place (instead of giving exposure/money for finding/inventing/sharing something novel) and another side(pirates as it is preferred to call them) being greedy in other way around and often not truly respecting authors and giving them appropriate reward for their efforts.</p>
<p>So my position here is that both sides are wrong actually and if Industries only aim is to tighten the laws all they will succeed on will be be raising resistance from free culture, opensource movements and now pirate parties. And hopefully when those movements will gain as much support(probably even more) then industry lobbies hopefully some real solutions will be found&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S Care to share what&#8217;s your professional position and also sources of your information on the question of IP?</p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560164</link>
		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The issue most of TF’s readers don’t understand, or perhaps, more accurately, choose NOT to understand, is that even an innocuous trespass like unauthorized subtitles is still the wrong way to go about this, we simply have no right, none, no right whatever to step into someone else’s work, to force their hand to release schedule, content, translation, price.&quot;

And what right did the corporations have to basically dstroy the entire concept of &quot;public domain&quot; by bribing the government into extending copyrights to ridiciulous lengths? Not to mention conducting an &quot;education&quot; campaign that has virtually wiped the very idea of any type of IP being free from the minds of anyone under the age of 30.

What right did the movie industry have to prevent legally purchased DVDs from being played in other countries through the imposition of region codes? Before you try and argue that they were necessary for protecting theater releases, as the studios claim, be prepared to explain why region codes are still used on releases that are 10+ years.

What right did they have to make it a crime to circumvent DRM, even if it&#039;s necessary to actually make use of the media?

Why does Sony have the right to sell a &quot;DVD&quot; that won&#039;t play in all DVD players and then claim it&#039;s not their fault if it doesn&#039;t work, even if the reason it won&#039;t is that they messed with the DVD structure in a useless effort to prevent it from being copied?

As for Mininova, I predict they&#039;ll go the way of that torrent meta-search site that was popular last year. Remember the one that received rave reviews and then announced that they were only going to include legal content? Yeah, I don&#039;t remember what it was called either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The issue most of TF’s readers don’t understand, or perhaps, more accurately, choose NOT to understand, is that even an innocuous trespass like unauthorized subtitles is still the wrong way to go about this, we simply have no right, none, no right whatever to step into someone else’s work, to force their hand to release schedule, content, translation, price.&#8221;</p>
<p>And what right did the corporations have to basically dstroy the entire concept of &#8220;public domain&#8221; by bribing the government into extending copyrights to ridiciulous lengths? Not to mention conducting an &#8220;education&#8221; campaign that has virtually wiped the very idea of any type of IP being free from the minds of anyone under the age of 30.</p>
<p>What right did the movie industry have to prevent legally purchased DVDs from being played in other countries through the imposition of region codes? Before you try and argue that they were necessary for protecting theater releases, as the studios claim, be prepared to explain why region codes are still used on releases that are 10+ years.</p>
<p>What right did they have to make it a crime to circumvent DRM, even if it&#8217;s necessary to actually make use of the media?</p>
<p>Why does Sony have the right to sell a &#8220;DVD&#8221; that won&#8217;t play in all DVD players and then claim it&#8217;s not their fault if it doesn&#8217;t work, even if the reason it won&#8217;t is that they messed with the DVD structure in a useless effort to prevent it from being copied?</p>
<p>As for Mininova, I predict they&#8217;ll go the way of that torrent meta-search site that was popular last year. Remember the one that received rave reviews and then announced that they were only going to include legal content? Yeah, I don&#8217;t remember what it was called either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560157</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@reasoned troll;

But; which is the problem then? :-)

If we, the filesharers are (according to your words) a minority; I don&#039;t see anything bad and we are not a real problem...

You see, reasoned troll, the lies always are discovered... a compulsive liar as you don&#039;t have any credibility because people as you claim at a given moment that we are a minority, and in another moment the same copyright people say that the majority of traffic on the internet is p2p... :-)

You see... it&#039;s very difficult to believe to compulsive liars as you.

Are you a corrupt person? just curious... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@reasoned troll;</p>
<p>But; which is the problem then? :-)</p>
<p>If we, the filesharers are (according to your words) a minority; I don&#8217;t see anything bad and we are not a real problem&#8230;</p>
<p>You see, reasoned troll, the lies always are discovered&#8230; a compulsive liar as you don&#8217;t have any credibility because people as you claim at a given moment that we are a minority, and in another moment the same copyright people say that the majority of traffic on the internet is p2p&#8230; :-)</p>
<p>You see&#8230; it&#8217;s very difficult to believe to compulsive liars as you.</p>
<p>Are you a corrupt person? just curious&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560151</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben Jones
&quot;reasoned mind is not a troll.&quot;

Bullshit. His &quot;viewpoint&quot; isn&#039;t occasionally contrary, it&#039;s perpetually detatched from reality. From his willful ignorance of the fact that filesharing isn&#039;t theft despite being corrected ad nauseum, to his upsidedown and backwards blame-the-victim philosophy that states it&#039;s entirely the fault of filesharers that the entertainment industry is attempting to turn the Internet into a draconian police state(the logic of this is in par with claiming that Jews were to blame for the whole Nazi mess), to his doomsday propaganda that the days of filesharing are coming to a close as the law cracks down on P2P - when in reality the few laws designed to crack down on P2P that manage to get signed into action quickly fall apart soon thereafter, to his escapades masquerading as multiple user names... Reasoned Mind is a mouthpiece for the copyright lobbyists groups and the epitome of a troll. 

Now here comes the part where he pretends he&#039;s unjustly accused of being a hired plant because he represents an &quot;opposing morality&quot;, when it&#039;s plainly obvious to anybody that the little choad&#039;s paychecks are signed by the industry, opposing viewpoints be damned.

Oh, and speaking of his adventures posing under different user names, it&#039;s likely that you, &quot;Ben Jones&quot;, are actually Reasoned Mind giving himself a blowjob since your comments lack the fancy green background used by Torrent Freak staff members. 

And you can get away with it, too, since TF&#039;s moderators seem to either be asleep at the wheel or a little too hands-off for their own good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben Jones<br />
&#8220;reasoned mind is not a troll.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bullshit. His &#8220;viewpoint&#8221; isn&#8217;t occasionally contrary, it&#8217;s perpetually detatched from reality. From his willful ignorance of the fact that filesharing isn&#8217;t theft despite being corrected ad nauseum, to his upsidedown and backwards blame-the-victim philosophy that states it&#8217;s entirely the fault of filesharers that the entertainment industry is attempting to turn the Internet into a draconian police state(the logic of this is in par with claiming that Jews were to blame for the whole Nazi mess), to his doomsday propaganda that the days of filesharing are coming to a close as the law cracks down on P2P &#8211; when in reality the few laws designed to crack down on P2P that manage to get signed into action quickly fall apart soon thereafter, to his escapades masquerading as multiple user names&#8230; Reasoned Mind is a mouthpiece for the copyright lobbyists groups and the epitome of a troll. </p>
<p>Now here comes the part where he pretends he&#8217;s unjustly accused of being a hired plant because he represents an &#8220;opposing morality&#8221;, when it&#8217;s plainly obvious to anybody that the little choad&#8217;s paychecks are signed by the industry, opposing viewpoints be damned.</p>
<p>Oh, and speaking of his adventures posing under different user names, it&#8217;s likely that you, &#8220;Ben Jones&#8221;, are actually Reasoned Mind giving himself a blowjob since your comments lack the fancy green background used by Torrent Freak staff members. </p>
<p>And you can get away with it, too, since TF&#8217;s moderators seem to either be asleep at the wheel or a little too hands-off for their own good.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasoned Mind</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560148</link>
		<dc:creator>Reasoned Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@145
There is still not one study through any isp in any country in the world today that shows online piracy to be anything other than a distinct minority of people, always less than half, often 20% or less. The PEW study shows that in America.

&quot;Millions&quot; sounds about right.
In a population measured in billions.
Get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@145<br />
There is still not one study through any isp in any country in the world today that shows online piracy to be anything other than a distinct minority of people, always less than half, often 20% or less. The PEW study shows that in America.</p>
<p>&#8220;Millions&#8221; sounds about right.<br />
In a population measured in billions.<br />
Get real.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560146</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems that the coward of reasoned troll doesn&#039;t want to respond my nice question. :-)

Are many millions of active filesharers around the world a minority?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems that the coward of reasoned troll doesn&#8217;t want to respond my nice question. :-)</p>
<p>Are many millions of active filesharers around the world a minority?</p>
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		<title>By: wonderwhy-er</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrents-start-to-disappear-from-mininova-090511/#comment-560145</link>
		<dc:creator>wonderwhy-er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@142 zonetrooper
You can broadcast messages over such network too. You just create broadcast message like &quot;New episode of **** is out for&quot; and everyone who allows broadcast messages to go trough him as an ISP will transmit it to all others he is connected with. Basically decentralized self regulating networks are under research and in many cases algorithms are not proved to be stable as of yet except some specific cases like SkyPe or are prone to different attacks like spoofing of data but it is still possible to index data without centralized indexer. 
May be that&#039;s what should be done with torrent indexers actually. Making them decentralized and hosted by community over modern Internet :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@142 zonetrooper<br />
You can broadcast messages over such network too. You just create broadcast message like &#8220;New episode of **** is out for&#8221; and everyone who allows broadcast messages to go trough him as an ISP will transmit it to all others he is connected with. Basically decentralized self regulating networks are under research and in many cases algorithms are not proved to be stable as of yet except some specific cases like SkyPe or are prone to different attacks like spoofing of data but it is still possible to index data without centralized indexer.<br />
May be that&#8217;s what should be done with torrent indexers actually. Making them decentralized and hosted by community over modern Internet :)</p>
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