“I don’t even have cable or satellite anymore. I just download and watch TV shows at MY convenience. In addition, I do so completely WITHOUT any commercial interruptions.

You see, this is what people want. They want to watch what they want, when they want, as often as they want. Customers don’t like being told what to do or not to do.”

Seconded!

I don’t even have a tv anymore, In Norway you have to pay a fee to the state tv-channel just for owning a tv that receives broadcasts. I’m done with people charging money for stuff i don’t watch and for cable/satelite packages i don’t fully use, but have to get in order to get the one channel i like.

The only reason to have a TV is to connect it to your PC and play all your downloaded torrents when you want without adverts. No satelite, no cable and no antenna! Only Torrents! No big corporations telling me what, when and how to do things. I’m not a bloody communist.

Keep downloading torrents!

thank God for P2P and VPN’s

Down-under is the dark ages for internet (middle-earth anyone).

Having friends with broadband that can download shows for you, or sharing at LANs is a life saver, and I wouldn’t even know about some TV shows wihtout broadband.

New Zealand only just started airing season 1 of Eureka about a year ago, but I have all three seasons. :D

I get some shows, because the wait it to long. In a world where information is instant, so should shows, movies etc.

$5 @ ep = $100-130 a season. BD 1080p is only $70.00 a season (What I have seen so far, it might be higher for some shows)

@28

$2 an episode to watch on demand where you don’t even get to keep it? WoW.

@27

Yeh Battlestargate Universica is very cool! ;)

/endsarcasm

@49 (matt)

You are very close. Both the networks and studios demand the contracts. The studios demand a high premium for first-runs. The US networks like NBC and SciFi pay more if they can be the first and only exclusive broadcaster of the show. So the studios wait 1-6 months before releasing them at a lower premium for first-runs to the UK or other countries.

A lot of other countries Cable or TV don’t want to pay that ultra high first-run studio price. So they wait until syndication. Ah syndication, That must happen in the US first (from what I’ve seen) so that is 1-2 years away from the air date (got to protect DVD sales!), then 1 year or so after that to be available for other countries.

All in all a big big annoyance for fans in other countries.

@53 (lverona)

They don’t stream outside the US because of network contracts. They could stream once the show had a first-run in that country (like the UK) but then they would have to have an entire UK unit devoted to selling advertising, managing local UK servers for optimal streaming, etc etc etc etc.

Because Hulu is only a test for the networks / studios. They want to see how it goes before rolling it out globally. Of course we know how long it takes studios and networks to decide to do anything so who knows what they think of it.

As you suggest they could have PPS sites, but that would violate the contracts they have with the networks or the studios. So that will not happen. And it would not be what the people want (If they pay they want to own it)

@78 (How retarded?) and others …

It depends upon what country you are in. In the US you have the right under fair use to time-shift any show on cable or regular TV. That does not mean keep a copy., only to be able to watch it once at a later time. Anything else would not be allowed. Yes I think it is stupid, but it is the way the laws were wrote…. Idiot governments.

The Future is here! …

Everyone puts forward their thoughts on how to solve the problem. I’ve not heard one that would appeal to everyone.

Like the Music and Movies the industries are trying to fit a round peg into a square hold. The landscape has changed and they want what they want.

I’ve said this a ton of times to many people over the years, just never here. Why are they working so hard to remove everything from the net and locking it all down? what do they want? Looking into the mindset of the Studios we can get an idea and actually a Studio exec a few years ago hinted at this. Imagine if you will no networks, no TV stations, no nothing just a wire to your TV. Anything you want to watch you can 24/7 from TV shows to Movies to Music etc. Each time you “click” you pay. No matter what it is you want you pay and everything is in the cloud so you own nothing. Well at every turn we have stopped them. From Napster to BitTorrent to Showing them we want to own our content.

Protecting the Guilty…

At this moment that Studio exec was right about one thing. Networks, Cable, IPTV and OTA are all outdated. Why do we need them? Oh that’s right more businesses gobbling up cash we cannot allow to go away. Again propping up outdated business models and actually even businesses!

The Fix is in…

If, using the current network technology, the Studios setup a Private BitTorrent site. Charge $60.00 a month for access to it and you can download what TV Shows you want, DRM-free, anywhere in the world, and you own that copy. You could even do P2P streaming of Sports broadcasts! Hey why not charge $100.00 a month and add movies to that? People pay that in Cable bills globally, this way more of the money goes to the shows you love not to Network or Cable cos pockets.

They also have a very low distribution cost because of P2P no high high bandwidth costs like Hulu.

My Fav Show Is GONE!!!!!!

90% of the time the networks are the ones who cancel the shows, not the Studios. Bad ratings, low advertising revenue for that show, a new show that costs less are all among the factors in deciding on the fate of a show. If the networks were gone it would alter the landscaped enough that your favorite show would stand a better chance of being kept being produced.

Are you smarter than a moron!!!!

Reality TV has risen in popularity with networks as the costs of these shows are so low they can generate huge returns. So more and more get made and shoved down our throats. I think they would start to lose popularity, as budgets got bigger for TV shows, better and better series would emerge to replace regurgitated Reality TV.

So what do you think?

/endrant

Seed mate, seeeeeeeeeed! ;)

Generally Spanish TV (canal plus) is pretty good at keeping current on TV shows (airing flashforward tonight) but there are a lot of shows that they don’t carry like The Amazing Race, just love that show.

So I download to get the series I can’t find anywhere else or to catch ones I missed.

I second the complaint that you can’t get documentaries anywhere!!!!!!

LMAO…piracy! Piracy is using a 1000 dollar photoshop program for free…not sharing tv shows!

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Hope this helps someone.

I’ll go back to paid TV service when I get the following:

• Commercials are before and after the show, not during the middle of it.

• Better targeted ads. As a grown man, I have no need for tampons, hair volumizer, sugary cereal or fabric softener. Send me ads for products I’m likely to use and I may be interested.

• Never use Overlays. I know what I’m currently watching, I know what station it’s on, and I don’t give a rat’s ass what crap show they’re pushing next.

• Re-run new shows from the current week in a later time-slot on a different night. Even with dual tuners and TiVo, shows put in conflicting time-slots force people to choose between shows. If I want to watch something on another channel, I will. If I have to wait until next season to catch what I missed, I’ll just lose interest and stop watching.

It is our hard-earned dollars that keep these stations alive. Our subscription fees, our money spent with their advertisers. We should be treated like customers. They view us more like the product, selling us in large demographic blocks to the advertisers. Since we are the product they’re really selling, the loss of value they see from piracy is exactly the same as the loss they would take from us simply not watching their shows. As long as they treat the viewers so poorly, without edited pirate video, I’d just as soon not watch any way.

Well now I just torrent all of the TV that we used to watch on cable. Sure I could watch on Hulu, but if I’m going to have to use my limited-unlimited Internet to download the shows, I am going to make sure I only have to download them once.

So way to go cable company, you tryed to make me pay 5x as much, and but instead I now watch all the shows I want for free.

But I suppose unless they did not loose 80% of their customers it was a smart move on their part.

as i pointed out before we’ve already paid via cable/sky monthly were only downloading the shows that’s aired that we’ve missed

on top of that 170 quid a year for a tv licence if your in england so i think we all have already paid!

over in the usa its free to air so why would you or anyone else pay money just to get the same content in a different viewing form?

do you pay to record or tivo per episode? hell no so why should anyone pay to do the same only this time in a portable format?

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I’m fed up of watching 1 season of US TV series just to hear they get canned.

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Ernesto, you are way, way, way too optimistic. I remember when the 4400 *started* airing in Portugal. It was the same year the show was cancelled (4th season). That’s a 3-year delay.