So how long do you have to wait then? A month? If you don’t have a life then it would work. I can’t leave my pc online forever just to get a good ratio.

Bram Cohen’s suggestion may very well be the way to go.

Furthermore, the ratio requiremnts have nothing to do with making downloading faster, they are there to keep torrents alive longer.

The bittorrent tit-for-tat protocol encourages fast downloads, but it has no encouragment to keep torrents seeded once they’ve finished.

If it takes 6 months to get a 1:1 ratio, you can bet people are going to leave the torrent open that long. Once you have many torrents seeding, it’s easier to keep your ratio up, as statistically a few torrents will be uploading at all times. This time-lag before your ratio approaches 1:1 is why sites have grace-periods for their ratio reqiurements.

People are rational beings. They join private sites with ratio-requirements because thoes sites have better seeded torrents, which makes those sites more popular. Indeed, by emphasising specifically download/upload ratio, economics dictates that people *will* upload more, via faster connections, leaving them open longer, and allocating bandwidth more aggressivly.

Somes private trackers have group buys , they pay for some products that will be exclusive for them. Depending of your users class, you will need to wait X time until the torrent is available for you. The ratio will affect your class type to get materials more faster. Donor have free ratio download. For preventing the hit and run(new member enter and download all what he can until banned), they have also trusted / untrusted user , when someone is trusted , he can download exclusive stuff, for preventing a little bit more leaking and hit and run. This is not perfect , but i found this a good way to keep something you buy under control for a certain time. One day it will leak anyway. Problem is that people always want thing for free .. internet is a good way but sometime you need to make an effort on your side too to keep the quality and the community.

Now the problem is my ISP is turning off the unlimited access .. this will be hard to maintain a good ratio with this.

Leecher purposely choking upload speed, regardless of public or private. So the tit-for-tat is just worthless to reduce leeching. DON’T BLAME THE PRIVATE SITES… In fact, if it weren’t for cost of servers, I like the invite only method.

The thing people needs to understand on private trackers is that its OK to have a ratio under 1. The minimum demand on private trackers is usually somewhere between 0,3-0,5 and there is no reason for people to panic if they have a ratio around 0,6. Som people have ratios above 1 and some have below, isnt harder than so.

If the ratio system is going to do any good it NEEDS to be a pure mathematical ratio (without freeleeching and bonuses) that shows how much people contribute to the site.

Fixed.

I like the ratio “thing” it makes it more addicting, but if you have a bad connection its not fun at all, exspecially when you have dorks making you feel bad in forums cause your connection sucks.

People get so addicted to joining torrent sites, They turn into major assholes. If their ratio is better then yours then they feel they have the right to put you down, or make you feel lower class. It not right to take it that far, but kids will. Kids dont know any better, but to be better then everyone else, thus proves another point… WHY ISNT THE PARENTS SPENDING TIME WITH THEIR KIDS!!!!!!

I could go on and on about this shit, but its just my opinion. Does it matter that kids stay inside 24/7 creating what we call agoraphobia? They stay inside so much that they fear to go outside, because of the addiction of torrent sites.. It could happen…

GO OUTSIDE AND BE APART OF THE WORLD!

Good for ADSL users like me who can never seed 1:1 because of the damn quarter speed upload.

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Bram has said on NUMEROUS occasions that the protocol is designed with the idea that NO CLIENT OR TRACKER TRUSTS ANYBODY. It’s expected that every client is out for it’s own best interest. The protocol handles THAT environment (where nobody trusts anybody) quite well.

It starts to break when you try to modify the environment (private trackers) to control behavior.

Private trackers have problems keeping torrents alive BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATE! Public trackers have more seeds and people downloading. Why shouldn’t you let more people join your swarms? The WHOLE THEORY is that more people downloading is BETTER. If your torrents suck because of leechers it’s because you have itty bitty swarms of a size that bittorrent was NOT designed to handle.