1) It would NOT contain copyrighted content.
2) It would NOT faciliate the LINK to copyrighted content.

It would just be a chunk of numbers that confirm the validity of copyrighted data… BUT would NOT be a reproduction or resemble the copyrighted content in any way, and therefore should NOT be protected by intellectual property rights.

Otherwise, we’re talking about making a sequence of numbers, that do NOT resemble any likeness to copyrighted content and do not allow individuals to connect to that copyrighted content… illegal.

I say… go host a torrent site, but just remove all trackers from the torrents, let people figure out which tracker addresses to enter and you will not be guilty of facilitating piracy as you will not have provided anyone with a link to actually retrieve copyrighted content.

Yay??? or Nay???

Yaaaarrrrrrrrrr!!!

You took the words outta my mouth, you speak the truth and nothing but the truth I like. :)

You and me are on same wave length aye!!! ^_^

You speak the truth my friend!

Great! Those trackers will surely be added to my new uploads along with my favorite private tracker =D

I wonder however, if tracker.prq.to is being sold as well to the “New World Media Channel”, GGF.

This was the original, old TPB tracker and it is accepting public torrents today.

But yes, it would be nice if lots of public trackers spawn all over the place. They are not strictly needed, DHT does work (especially if your client can handle both AZ and ML) but it is nice to have some pretty stats.

The other parallel effort is to keep having many torrent indexers. This will keep us in free countries happy, those in oppressed regimes under the rule of US corps should switch to anonymous p2p, especially to release.

so many people told him the last time that openbittorrent and tpb trackers are SAME. but he won’t listen.

If you give him a bottle of Coke, he will still say, “No, I want Coca-Cola” nothing else.

http://tracker.publicbt.com/stats
853
72
opentracker serving 179 torrents
opentracker

Looks like PublicBT has some catching up to do.

Newsflash Neogay, if instead of a 10-Million-at-once tracker there will end up being 10k-sliced private trackers spread all over the world, just how much more work and how much less likelyhood will your so much beloved piracy prosecution end up having?

In the end, you can’t have a personalized sting operation for every single tracker out there, let alone constantly subpoena the whole world.

What you AND the industry fail to understand is that it isn’t a problem of not having enough legal pressure, but that there is simply a real and existing DEMAND for this type of service. And nothing will change that.
You could try and compete and actually gain something yourself and make something of it, or keep doing the stupid thing and constantly invest resources into trying to prevent it…imho rather stupid.

And as for those damned society destroying, artists killing pirates: You can’t get blood from a stone. I don’t (and I know many don’t) have the excess income to buy the shit in the first place, and although that neither in YOUR EYES makes it legally or morally RIGHT, it still makes it financially senseless to eliminate these entities, as they have ZERO impact on your revenue stream in the first place.

A LOT of pirates are called kiddies rightfully so – tons of them are teens with zero of their own income..they’ve already spent what they can on their n-th Xbox-PS2345-Wii-Sims-2-Expansion-Nr-5000-whatever, and at that point when you and your industry buddies come ringing for the money-milking, they’re just shit out of luck.

I’d also like to add to that the new way of thinking of media goods as a flatrate / always on service, and anyone who wants to can see that we’re moving ahead, away from the single item / product marktplace, and into a service providing environment. Get with the friggin’ program..

Again: blood from a stone, blood from a stone..

Once again, your stupidity amazes me. I’d have much better luck explaining torrent technology to my house plant then having to explain my point to you.

But here goes…

Todays model: so let’s just say I had an account with TPB, and I’ve posted my name and the torrent hash file that I’ve created and am sharing audiovisual file with the world. The RIAA/MPAA can see instantly what I’m doing, and they could target me from the very beginning. So yes, neo.troll, I could be an instant target.

So I create this private torrent of the biggest block busting movie of the day. I’m using an open tracker and no one knows I’m using this tracker because they don’t keep any logs. I send the torrent hash file to my best friends and family through e-mail or IM. Everyone enjoys the file and movie, and who knows perhaps they start giving it to their friends and their family, and they do the same thing, etc. By then I’ve already seen the movie and stopped sharing it. The chances of my best friends and family being friends with the RIAA/MPAA of obtaining the torrent hash file is nil unless they had access to everyones e-mail and IM information.

The RIAA/MPAA could never see what we’re doing because it’s gone completely underground and out of site. They could try to shut down the open/public tracker sites but those sites also carry legitimate and legal files too.

So you see neo.troll the RIAA/MPAA would never succeed. They would have to shut down the entire internet which is never going to happen either. If they shut down the internet at least there wouldn’t be any trolls like you around anymore. ;)

A real solution would be to use P2P technology to put all tracking in the cloud but that would require a new client and some space in all computers that use that.

Prototypes of this kind of thing already exist like the serverless Osiris.

Here is the link:
http://osiris.kodeware.net/

I think the idea is great and so do google LoL

You see once it’s in the cloud unless they confiscate all computers and forbid all privacy for the population it will be impossible to censure anything and you cannot know who is behind it.

Basically it’s an internet on top of the other internet, it is encrypted and anonymous so it renders all discussions mute, the bad thing about it,is that it is slow for people without a broadband a real broadband in the megabytes range.

I have made many experiments with DHT, and always I get the same conclusion:

“Today, DHT is very robust and with this already is not necessary the use of any tracker(s)”

The ONLY problem with trackerless torrents is that the indexers sites (Mininova, TorrentPortal, etc.) don’t show the stats from these.

Would be necessary modifying the already existing indexers sites for that they read and show stats from trackerless torrents; and in addition the new indexers sites could have this feature… problem solved!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kademlia

“Mainline DHT is supported by

BitTorrent v4.1.0+, µTorrent v1.2+, BitSpirit v3.0+, BitComet v0.59+, KTorrent, Azureus 3.0+ (via a Plugin), Transmission 1.70+ , BitFlu.pl, and many libtorrent-based: They all share a DHT based on an implementation of the Kademlia algorithm, *for trackerless torrents*.”

We only need websites for searching, no more tracker.

Long live TPB??? No, more like long live Btjunkie.

“The big con with this is there is no indexer so how would anyone find the torrents?”

The indexers will be independant of the tracker, run by different and completley unrelated sysops. That’s the point, the more decentralised the protocol it is, the harder it will be for the MPAA, RIAA, etc. to file lawsuits.

i believe there should be a large number of small trackers, as opposed to a small number of large trackers.