Comments on: Rogers Continues to Throttle BitTorrent Traffic, Despite Contentious Pricing Scheme

By: bell sucks

bell sucks — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:26:54 +0000

dropped bell today, they have shaped traffic for close to a year, broke my contract without telling me, throttled so called “unlimited” account and now they have introduced this new b.s. 60gb cap per month with traffic shaping. i am urging all canadians to drop the monopolistic companies and go with the small providers. bell and rogers are are anti-competitive, anti-consumer and anti-net neutrality conglomerates that need to be kicked in the teeth with our pocket books.

By: Chaos

Chaos — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:58:02 +0000

I would have quit Rogers LONG ago, but in Canada its basically an oligopoly/monopoly. Rogers has the best speed and charges big $$ for it, and is pathetic compared to other countries. Rogers owns the cable lines all around the city (Toronto). They can shaft their customers in every orifice and they would have little choice. Bell owns all the phone lines, and offers DSL with slightly slower speeds, with that whole painful dial up process (i think).

I am really hoping an American company like at&t, verison, or whoever, comes up here and lays some fiber lines and starts offering decent internet.

By: Bratok

Bratok — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:23:17 +0000

Because Canada is freaking village. Monopoly is everywhere. No alternative and no competition. They do what they want with the customers, because they know you have nowhere to go. Even gas stations. Before they were selling all different prices. Now—all the same.I hate them, and I hate that I can’t change anything!

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By: songs

songs — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:51:59 +0000

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By: Pixie

Pixie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:31:46 +0000

I live in Windsor and in my area the only choices for me are Bell, Rogers, and stupid Cogeco (which is the worse of the three!) It seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel for a lowly bittorent user like myself. Something needs to be done. Any suggestions? There is no reason this should be happening. I pay for unlimited internet. I expect that product to be delivered.

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By: Dane

Dane — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:00:27 +0000

It’s sad to say, but this is the norm in Australia. I’ve just been sent a letter from my ISP threatening to disconnect me because I consistently use more than my download allowance (which can only be described as 4 GB of fun!)

By: ELCouz

ELCouz — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:19:46 +0000

TEKSAVVY is now throttled (use Bell lines, which throttle any resellers)since 2 weeks… jeez read the news at dslreports BEFORE switching to another ISP

By: DakE_FeatH

DakE_FeatH — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:55:00 +0000

[quote comment="339687"]Seems like Rogers is run by some very intelligent managers. Removing Flat-Rates, blocking encrypted traffic, throttling bittorrent…

I mean c’mon are you serious. Who wants a provider like that? Do they still have any customers at all?[/quote]

Yes they do, cuz they are the major ISP unfortunately…

By: DakE_FeatH

DakE_FeatH — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:50:53 +0000

[quote comment="339165"]ummm time for techsavvy.ca[/quote]

Definitely man, I will switch to techsavvy. Thanks for the website!

By: DakE_FeatH

DakE_FeatH — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:36:56 +0000

It’s stupid that they count both your download and upload usage. That simply defeats the purpose of sharing, that they advertise.

I’m not sure if they throttle bittorrent, I have decent speeds on public trackers and very good speeds on private trackers. What I hate them for is their stupid limit. Why only 100 GB for the highest service, with 18Mbps download!?! I have the 3rd option (Express) and the limit is 60GB! WTF!?!

Since April 1 to April 11 alone i used 161.17 GB, and according to them, I need to pay an extra of $202.00 :-/ . They say the maximum they will charge is up to $25, starting from June. But that’s $25 extra for doing exactly what they advertise … AND they have no plans to introduce Fibre Optic Internet anytime soon…(probably they will make it $200/mo) Bastards…

By: dcd

dcd — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:19:47 +0000

Wow so f*cked up limits in CA :( Thank god i live in Finland with 10mb/3mb connection without any quota and paying for 33e /mth.

By: Sid

Sid — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:01:58 +0000

Damn that is fucking expensive even for the lower end packs. 60 Gb for 40 bucks? I hit that just through basic (legal) music download services and with a voip.

By: Rogers Slave

Rogers Slave — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:05:31 +0000

So what are our options in Canada?

By: Superbuddha

Superbuddha — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:28:22 +0000

I am from Toronto, using Rogers. The dl speed had been terrific. Then I got the letter about the new pricing scheme. A few days later I got a message from Rogers when I opened the browser (a pop up thing) telling me that I had exceeded the monthly limit. I clicked the acknowledge button and the next day on, dl speed has been pathetic. That was the worse thing done in my life. If I did not click the button, I might still be getting good dl speed until Rogers enforced the pricing scheme in June. Paying accodring to the total amount of dl is fair, but as everyone has said, throttling the speed isn’t. Unfortunately, all these ISPs are in consort with one another and poor consumers like us really do not have any choice. They all throttle.

By: Mr. S

Mr. S — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:21:05 +0000

Yurray for Portugal. Almost every ISP offers unlimited national and international traffic.

By: jello

jello — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:28:43 +0000

gotta love shaw, 25/1mbit, $93.. 150GB b/w limit but i exceed that and go to over 350 on average, sometimes even over 500. also they dont block torrents like rogers does, so torrenting for me is fine. :)

By: gogo

gogo — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:35:31 +0000

Rogers customers need to make a statement with their money, take your business elsewhere if possible… if not you might be encouraging other ISP’s to follow suit.

2gb/$25 +$5 for every GB over allotment is outrageous for an entry level package… might as well be on dial-up for those limitations.

By: iGama

iGama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:12:11 +0000

Price :

39â‚¬ for : “24Mbps”/512Kbps line cap at 60 GB + Phone

By: iGama

iGama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:10:29 +0000

We have this in portugal for years already.

All ISP’s in Portugal have a pricing scheme like this.

I 60GB per month. the normal is about 30 GB ..

Its a sad country i know…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:54:50 +0000

1.25 for every extra gigabyte? what a fucking joke. flat rate ftw.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:27:14 +0000

I think this article is a farse. For people that download a lot of music on iTunes, video off places like BBC iPlayer, 4OD or the Canadian equivilent it is a good plan. If you want to use BitTorrent don’t go with their plan. Simple. You make out as if they will never be able to download 24,320 songs, but they could off the aformentioned iTunes.

By: limmey

limmey — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:30:24 +0000

If you want DSL line try Acanac.com…was usin them for a while…unlimited…good support as well…and yeh…best to move over to a smaller provider…cheaper and unlimited tooooo…

By: Rad

Rad — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:50:42 +0000

10 MBps and dwnload limit of 95 Gb, what a load of crap

I’m on 2 Mbps but only allowed UL downloadin for 6 hours a day, still manage to cross 140 Gb

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:09:53 +0000

Rogers is a wonderful ISP. Basic header encryption such as what uTorrent offers is plenty enough to get full speeds and so I have a hard time keeping under the limits. Bell Sympatico does the same thing but is more expensive per gigabyte.
I see nothing wrong with this kind of throttling. Slows down the stupid people so I get more speeds!

By: NotMe

NotMe — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:59:00 +0000

@49 they were seem to have eased off for the time being.

@44 in many areas the only competition does as well (see #36). Which makes switching pointless. So yes many customers.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:26:06 +0000

I thought Rogers was throttling all
encrypted traffic, not just BitTorrent

By: Tunder

Tunder — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:47 +0000

Welcome to Australia. I pay $60 a month for 1.5mbit with a 25 gig cap. Our plan shapes us to 256k beyond the cap.

Soon to be upgrading to $50 a month for 24mbit with 25gig cap though. Maximum residential caps are about 55gig here….if you wna pay $90 a month.

By: Dereks

Dereks — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:32:22 +0000

And here Ukraine rocks again. 100Mbit unlimited channel, without any shaping in any way – and that’s just for $40.

By: VDSL2 Lover

VDSL2 Lover — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:57:37 +0000

I can’t wait for VDSL2 to become available in Australia.

Up to 100Mbit/s download speed and about half of download speed for upload speed.

Although Australia is lacking bandwidth.

By: pwnered

pwnered — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:26:20 +0000

Seems a weird way of doing things, can’t say I understand the logic…

It looks like if the resellers can’t get their lines cleared of the involuntary throttling then Canadas’ screwed.

But hey, there’s always Imageshack!

By: Calimore

Calimore — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:23:21 +0000

Seems like Rogers is run by some very intelligent managers. Removing Flat-Rates, blocking encrypted traffic, throttling bittorrent…

I mean c’mon are you serious. Who wants a provider like that? Do they still have any customers at all?

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:16:28 +0000

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By: sikantis.net

sikantis.net — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:57:44 +0000

the prices are really very high

By: John Doe v2.0

John Doe v2.0 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:54:19 +0000

$&%# Bell and Rogers!

Keep complaining to everyone, the government, your MPS, whoever! Don’t stop till this problem is fixed!

Who’s with me?

By: John Doe

John Doe — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:20:19 +0000

what ya all crying for here i have 448kbs limit for downloading havent gone above 100kbs for uploading yet $60 unlimited (the plan is no longer available because the service got over loaded)

By: nomeansno

nomeansno — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:54:45 +0000

Depressed!

in France (http://www.orange.fr/bin/frame.cgi?u=http%3A//abonnez-vous.orange.fr/default.aspx%3Fid%3D6773)

8mbs no limit
Phone
TV: all major stations

For how much! 40eur!

here: 30$ internet + 40$ phone + no cable it is too $%####@#% expensive!
Think about it, not so long ago we were laughing at them!

By: yar

yar — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:36:41 +0000

Well, I just have to say. Thank God I live in Ca–oh wait nevermind.

By: Digital Thief

Digital Thief — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:12:45 +0000

In Canada we have the choice Rogers=Throttled+cap or Bell Pathetico=throttled+cap

Something has to happened we are getting scammed and extort by the month, but we have no choice to take it since nobody does anything about it. Pay more and get less.

By: James

James — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:44:21 +0000

Hey Sad: you can get unlimited adsl in australia for $70 / month. Look for buniness plans. Don’t bother with consumer plans.

By: skakidd

skakidd — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:32:40 +0000

bell does the exact same thing and switching to teksavvy is an honourable gesture but teksavvy gets their bandwith from bell so your still gunna get throttled. and im guessing teksavvy will have some problems soon that aren’t their fault at all.

take a look at http://www.supportcommunity.sympatico.ca/pe/action/forums/displaysinglethread?rootPostID=10145149&returnExpertiseCode=
im rob

By: Shane

Shane — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:24:41 +0000

You forgot to add to the article, max overcharge is $25 a month ;) I got the letter today in the mail.

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p2pvine.com — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:58:32 +0000

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By: Zoness

Zoness — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:07:50 +0000

One case where I can almost be glad to be under an American ISP. It seems as if Comcast is backing off a little in my area (semi-rural illinois) so I can enjoy pretty rough speeds. The only thing they do now is close a port when I excel 1.5 MB/s download for 5 mins+ or at least thats what it seems like.

By: Finn

Finn — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:56:21 +0000

I’m on DSL with 1023/8061kbps, and for the last year it’s been on average 500Gb/230Gb down/up/month… so I guess I’m using the pipe all out(at least as far as torrents go…)?

No throttling(as far as I can tell at least…)
Connection been down only a couple of times a year(for a few hours or so)
No caps(at least not mentioned anywhere…)

For that I pay 40 euro/month

Finland is such a nice place to live^^

By: Jasper van Weerd

Jasper van Weerd — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:45:26 +0000

Download 3 seasons HD video of any series, and you reach the quotum…

By: Serb

Serb — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:20:34 +0000

Ok, I’m in a country where 1Mbit/s is a pipe dream for most, and the majority still use dial-up, yet with 256 Kbit down and 128 Kbit up, and some independent bandwidth within the ISP’s users(about 384 down, and 198 up, or something like that), I manage to use well over 100 GB per month…
Giving 95 gigs at 10 Mbit/s, that’s just for one week :P

By: K3nt

K3nt — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:13:59 +0000

teksavvy.ca>bell+rogers