Comments on: Rogers Fights BitTorrent by Throttling All Encrypted Transfers http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:07:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: DSB http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-416022 DSB Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:53:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-416022 This kind of excessive control is in my opinion ridiculous or at the least overreacting. I live in Boston, and use comcast. They often block limewire, sometimes befoe I even use it. So, I capped limewire's speed at 75 kbps, and they STIL block me occasionally. Sheesh, I know these can overload nodes, but don't block completely, just throttle it down to something reasonable. If someone is downloading at 800 kbps and it's flooding a node, then they should just throttle it to 200 kbps or somehting, not completely block it! Stuff goes faster, unfortunately ISP's are too lazy to upgrade their equipement. And blockig/throttling all encrypted network traffic is ridiculous... A third of what the average person does is encrypted... Email, etc. And good luck to companies with VPN's and network-over-internet stuff!! Those need speed, and are encrypted of course. Throttling all suspicious traffic is a violation of their speed claims, since if they advertise a speed, then it should be valid for all traffic, and caps should be done to that speed. Capping below an advertised speed is simply false advertising. If they can't handle people going at an advertised, normal speed, then don't they have an equipement problem? They are simply cuttig off a big chink of what people do on the internet... Soon they'll be deciding what pages we can and can't visit, like China... This trend needs to be stopped. This kind of excessive control is in my opinion ridiculous or at the least overreacting. I live in Boston, and use comcast. They often block limewire, sometimes befoe I even use it. So, I capped limewire’s speed at 75 kbps, and they STIL block me occasionally. Sheesh, I know these can overload nodes, but don’t block completely, just throttle it down to something reasonable. If someone is downloading at 800 kbps and it’s flooding a node, then they should just throttle it to 200 kbps or somehting, not completely block it! Stuff goes faster, unfortunately ISP’s are too lazy to upgrade their equipement. And blockig/throttling all encrypted network traffic is ridiculous… A third of what the average person does is encrypted… Email, etc. And good luck to companies with VPN’s and network-over-internet stuff!! Those need speed, and are encrypted of course. Throttling all suspicious traffic is a violation of their speed claims, since if they advertise a speed, then it should be valid for all traffic, and caps should be done to that speed. Capping below an advertised speed is simply false advertising. If they can’t handle people going at an advertised, normal speed, then don’t they have an equipement problem? They are simply cuttig off a big chink of what people do on the internet… Soon they’ll be deciding what pages we can and can’t visit, like China… This trend needs to be stopped.

]]> By: john http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-377946 john Tue, 06 May 2008 20:29:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-377946 if you are in Toronto you are f*cked, there are no choices but Rogers and Bell. And if you live in a condo or apartment it is Rogers or bust. Talk about monopoly. if you are in Toronto you are f*cked, there are no choices but Rogers and Bell. And if you live in a condo or apartment it is Rogers or bust. Talk about monopoly.

]]> By: gtownwasp http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-357280 gtownwasp Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:30:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-357280 Rogers(Bell) indeed is slowing (throttling ) internet high speed against contract. I use high speed wireless portable other wise known as inukshuk. Premium prices and now slower than dial up between 6 pm and twelve pm. High speed in the arctic but none within eye site of the CN tower.Time for public boycott as rogers and Bell are co managing the potable wireless and the site near me is Bell managed. No high speed here! Rogers(Bell) indeed is slowing (throttling ) internet high speed against contract.
I use high speed wireless portable other wise known as inukshuk.
Premium prices and now slower than dial up between 6 pm and twelve pm.
High speed in the arctic but none within eye site of the CN tower.Time for public boycott as rogers and Bell
are co managing the potable wireless
and the site near me is Bell managed.
No high speed here!

]]> By: black jack magee http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-353826 black jack magee Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:26:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-353826 Rogers sucks plain and simple. They are cutting the traffic because it costs a large amount of money to revamp the whole system so it handles the traffic properly. I've been told this plenty of times by their staff. They also took down their customers access to the usenet(news groups) services and then raised the price of their services. As of March 15/2008 they also decreased the GB cap limit on all accounts. Remember something people.....IT'S A COMPANY! It bought out the Blue Jays and even outsources their call centers to save money. All it's concerned about is making money without giving out the proper services. The Blue Jays suck ass, and in the future they will be cutting down their GB cap limit even more. The only way to stop them is to cut your services completely. If that's not an option then decrease the amount of services you have with them. Go with another cell phone provide(like virgin), change your internet plan, YOU DON'T NEED HIGH SPEED TO SURF THE NET. They burn fools into thinking you need their 5mbs package in order to send emails, surf or buy things from the net. YOU DON'T! The lite service will do. Stop complaining about them and do something about it, otherwise you fools will have no one to blame but yourselves. Rogers sucks plain and simple.
They are cutting the traffic because it costs a large amount of money to revamp the whole system so it handles the traffic properly. I’ve been told this plenty of times by their staff. They also took down their customers access to the usenet(news groups) services and then raised the price of their services. As of March 15/2008 they also decreased the GB cap limit on all accounts. Remember something people…..IT’S A COMPANY! It bought out the Blue Jays and even outsources their call centers to save money. All it’s concerned about is making money without giving out the proper services. The Blue Jays suck ass, and in the future they will be cutting down their GB cap limit even more. The only way to stop them is to cut your services completely. If that’s not an option then decrease the amount of services you have with them. Go with another cell phone provide(like virgin), change your internet plan, YOU DON’T NEED HIGH SPEED TO SURF THE NET. They burn fools into thinking you need their 5mbs package in order to send emails, surf or buy things from the net. YOU DON’T! The lite service will do. Stop complaining about them and do something about it, otherwise you fools will have no one to blame but yourselves.

]]> By: Andrew http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-348369 Andrew Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:41:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-348369 I was told, by Rogers's techs, that I would receive unlimited access to the net however it would only be slower. I also asked if they slowed down any programs and was given a firm no as this would not be legal. I was asked why I this was a question? My response was that I had noticed a major difference with the same models of computers and different ISP download responses. Now Rogers sends a custom notice that tells me that I have to accept a notice that I will be charged $5:00 per MB after June. Not only has Rogers mislead me about my access time, they, in my opinion, hacked into Google and or distorted the intended page I was to search on. This is a breach of privacy as Rogers sent me an email telling me that I have illegally downloaded a patch from Microsoft. Microsoft had a different view. This same company creates a breach of another company's software and calls it progression. I am also expected to click on a tab that will remove the notice from my computer. Note: Rogers always does things with addendums attached, by this way you agree to have your internet time knocked down to well below 50% while Rogers continues to profit off your money. This may truly be only a warning as stated by Rogers, however you must look at your own and hones dealings with Rogers to form your conclusion. I am moving all my services away from this company. The only action Rogers will understand is when ALL of this company's customers decide to say that we have had our fill as we know this reaches beyond concessions. This reached dictation. Be the smart person you are, Speak through your wallet. Change services now, but don't forget to ask questions and record your calls. This works great. There are plenty great providers out there; you will trip over them the moment you steer away from Rogers. I was told, by Rogers’s techs, that I would receive unlimited access to the net however it would only be slower. I also asked if they slowed down any programs and was given a firm no as this would not be legal. I was asked why I this was a question? My response was that I had noticed a major difference with the same models of computers and different ISP download responses.
Now Rogers sends a custom notice that tells me that I have to accept a notice that I will be charged $5:00 per MB after June.
Not only has Rogers mislead me about my access time, they, in my opinion, hacked into Google and or distorted the intended page I was to search on. This is a breach of privacy as Rogers sent me an email telling me that I have illegally downloaded a patch from Microsoft. Microsoft had a different view. This same company creates a breach of another company’s software and calls it progression. I am also expected to click on a tab that will remove the notice from my computer. Note: Rogers always does things with addendums attached, by this way you agree to have your internet time knocked down to well below 50% while Rogers continues to profit off your money. This may truly be only a warning as stated by Rogers, however you must look at your own and hones dealings with Rogers to form your conclusion. I am moving all my services away from this company. The only action Rogers will understand is when ALL of this company’s customers decide to say that we have had our fill as we know this reaches beyond concessions. This reached dictation. Be the smart person you are, Speak through your wallet. Change services now, but don’t forget to ask questions and record your calls.
This works great. There are plenty great providers out there; you will trip over them the moment you steer away from Rogers.

]]> By: Rogers Continues to Throttle BitTorrent Traffic, Despite Contentious Pricing Scheme at IDTorrent Blog http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-347903 Rogers Continues to Throttle BitTorrent Traffic, Despite Contentious Pricing Scheme at IDTorrent Blog Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:26:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-347903 [...] shaping. The first reports date back to 2005, and last year Rogers even decided to block all encrypted traffic, just to make sure that BitTorrent protocol encryption didn’t [...] [...] shaping. The first reports date back to 2005, and last year Rogers even decided to block all encrypted traffic, just to make sure that BitTorrent protocol encryption didn’t [...]

]]> By: Rogers Continues to Throttle BitTorrent Traffic, Despite Contentious Pricing Scheme | TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-339070 Rogers Continues to Throttle BitTorrent Traffic, Despite Contentious Pricing Scheme | TorrentFreak Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:52:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-339070 [...] shaping. The first reports date back to 2005, and last year Rogers even decided to block all encrypted traffic, just to make sure that BitTorrent protocol encryption didn’t [...] [...] shaping. The first reports date back to 2005, and last year Rogers even decided to block all encrypted traffic, just to make sure that BitTorrent protocol encryption didn’t [...]

]]> By: Mike http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320709 Mike Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:40:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320709 I just heard on the News here in Toronto this morning, News 680 am (a Rogers owned station) that Broadband in a couple of years will be non-existent due to teenagers downloading music and going onto video sites like YouTube. Let me put on my Tin Foil hat. Rogers will slow down traffic on purpose to try and get everyone buy into their new fast pipeline. Which will be fast to the sites that pay them money and the ones that don't well they'll be like 56k slow. But Disney, CBC and CNN will be super fast. This is called Net Neutrality. We really need to fight. I just heard on the News here in Toronto this morning, News 680 am (a Rogers owned station) that Broadband in a couple of years will be non-existent due to teenagers downloading music and going onto video sites like YouTube.

Let me put on my Tin Foil hat. Rogers will slow down traffic on purpose to try and get everyone buy into their new fast pipeline. Which will be fast to the sites that pay them money and the ones that don’t well they’ll be like 56k slow. But Disney, CBC and CNN will be super fast.

This is called Net Neutrality. We really need to fight.

]]> By: Blacklogic http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320676 Blacklogic Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:56:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320676 Use VPN. http://blacklogic.com Use VPN.

http://blacklogic.com

]]> By: some_joe http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320554 some_joe Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:04:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320554 here's an idea, instead of limiting the amount of bandwidth there is in use, why not you know... increase the bandwidth? I know it's not as easy as it sounds... but when us (as in the americans) are ranking 17-20th in terms of internet speed, someone is doing something wrong. here’s an idea, instead of limiting the amount of bandwidth there is in use, why not you know… increase the bandwidth? I know it’s not as easy as it sounds… but when us (as in the americans) are ranking 17-20th in terms of internet speed, someone is doing something wrong.

]]> By: wyd http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320135 wyd Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:12:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-320135 yingjai, Here is an article that may or may not help. I ran into this same thing with Comcast recently: http://youarestupid2.blogspot.com/2008/01/comcast-vs-bittorrent.html yingjai,

Here is an article that may or may not help. I ran into this same thing with Comcast recently:

http://youarestupid2.blogspot.com/2008/01/comcast-vs-bittorrent.html

]]> By: Murray http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-313434 Murray Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:47:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-313434 I forgot to add the 99 IP address that were bough with torrent restrictions is a load of (you get the point). Rogers can manage the new IP within weeks of obtaining them. They were made delibarately for restricting internet since Azerus automaticly claims restricted Internet. This is another proof that the info they spout about whta is being done is 90% garbage mixed with 10% truth. I forgot to add the 99 IP address that were bough with torrent restrictions is a load of (you get the point). Rogers can manage the new IP within weeks of obtaining them. They were made delibarately for restricting internet since Azerus automaticly claims restricted Internet. This is another proof that the info they spout about whta is being done is 90% garbage mixed with 10% truth.

]]> By: Murray http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-313431 Murray Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:44:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-313431 First of all I have been a cable and DSL tech. I am a special tech now that does computer repairs and DSL but know allot about the systems used when I send the field techs out for the US version. After reading some of the comments added hear from rogers reps that have been called I have decided to speak up on a tech standpoint. The more doanload activity on a server/node the greater wear on the machines is correct but a proper serice adds newer servers that also preform better to increase space or replace older models. My rogers service went from 100-300kb which I was happy with even with 614 gigs cap before they would warn you. they ignore 1 gig difference I was told to 30kb or less even on regular downloading from norton and other antivirus comapnies that I see on my jobs Internet users are getting 80-300kb depending on computer conditions. 90% of my downloads are tv shows and older movies you can't get easily after 5 years. Rogers main reason that started throttling was they put VOIP on the exsisting servers without inprovements. The servers mus be fairly old even with all the R&D fees that they can't handle 100kb torrent or regular downloading. It should be the higher the speed package the greater torrent speeds since I have the 6megs package 100kbs seems resonable to me. I use my downlaods on my computer like a VCR since my hours can be anywhere from 12 to 15 hours away from home that tapes can't do and rather not have the cost of PVR and other chices since 60 hours HD won't cover 2 weeks. I am switcing to acanac which is offering 5 meg service at $19 for the first year including tax and regular price $34 a month. NO RESTRICTIONS. First of all I have been a cable and DSL tech. I am a special tech now that does computer repairs and DSL but know allot about the systems used when I send the field techs out for the US version.

After reading some of the comments added hear from rogers reps that have been called I have decided to speak up on a tech standpoint.

The more doanload activity on a server/node the greater wear on the machines is correct but a proper serice adds newer servers that also preform better to increase space or replace older models. My rogers service went from 100-300kb which I was happy with even with 614 gigs cap before they would warn you. they ignore 1 gig difference I was told to 30kb or less even on regular downloading from norton and other antivirus comapnies that I see on my jobs Internet users are getting 80-300kb depending on computer conditions. 90% of my downloads are tv shows and older movies you can’t get easily after 5 years.

Rogers main reason that started throttling was they put VOIP on the exsisting servers without inprovements. The servers mus be fairly old even with all the R&D fees that they can’t handle 100kb torrent or regular downloading. It should be the higher the speed package the greater torrent speeds since I have the 6megs package 100kbs seems resonable to me. I use my downlaods on my computer like a VCR since my hours can be anywhere from 12 to 15 hours away from home that tapes can’t do and rather not have the cost of PVR and other chices since 60 hours HD won’t cover 2 weeks.

I am switcing to acanac which is offering 5 meg service at $19 for the first year including tax and regular price $34 a month. NO RESTRICTIONS.

]]> By: Rogers Customer http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-310745 Rogers Customer Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:01:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-310745 hey so is Rogers enforcing the 60GB bandwidth limit by charging if you go over? I read some forums(and Wiki) that said they are not currently doing it. Is that true? hey so is Rogers enforcing the 60GB bandwidth limit by charging if you go over? I read some forums(and Wiki) that said they are not currently doing it. Is that true?

]]> By: Christopher http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-303022 Christopher Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:04:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-303022 Sounds like it is time for everyone to band together and start a class action lawsuit against Rogers. They are not giving the service that they promised in the slightest, and are breaching the contract that they have with their customers.... a no-no in ANY country in the whole world. Sounds like it is time for everyone to band together and start a class action lawsuit against Rogers. They are not giving the service that they promised in the slightest, and are breaching the contract that they have with their customers…. a no-no in ANY country in the whole world.

]]> By: feelmyice http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-295518 feelmyice Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:34:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-295518 Whats a good service to switch from rogers in the TORONTO area that wont traffic shape? Whats a good service to switch from rogers in the TORONTO area that wont traffic shape?

]]> By: Total Misfortune http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-283713 Total Misfortune Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:36:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-283713 rogers charged me $40 more dollar fee for downloading a movie over 2 gb they said customers can only download 2gb permonth and that is it rogers charged me $40 more dollar fee for downloading a movie over 2 gb
they said customers can only download 2gb permonth and that is it

]]> By: BELL IS HELL http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-282338 BELL IS HELL Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:26:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-282338 Bell is really messed up. They throttle so much that between 10am and 2 am(!!!!!) my whole connection drops to 40kb download and 28kb upload. When I use torrent client,40kb download become 30-35kb. It's extremely wrong and unprofessional. I can't even watch Utube movies with shitty speeds like this. I hate how they ask 50$ a month for such crappy service. I am swtiching in 2 week,so i am happy. Bell is really messed up. They throttle so much that between 10am and 2 am(!!!!!) my whole connection drops to 40kb download and 28kb upload. When I use torrent client,40kb download become 30-35kb. It’s extremely wrong and unprofessional. I can’t even watch Utube movies with shitty speeds like this. I hate how they ask 50$ a month for such crappy service. I am swtiching in 2 week,so i am happy.

]]> By: filereaper http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-276172 filereaper Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:37:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-276172 This whole throttling business sucks, I"m in the Waterloo area, Rogers is really killing down my ssh connections to Uni servers, this whole nonsense is affecting my everyday work massively! I'm waiting for the the day WiMax comes out all over, I'll surely kill these nasty Monopolies. This whole throttling business sucks, I”m in the Waterloo area, Rogers is really killing down my ssh connections to Uni servers, this whole nonsense is affecting my everyday work massively! I’m waiting for the the day WiMax comes out all over, I’ll surely kill these nasty Monopolies.

]]> By: ROGERS PLAYS U ,U PLAY ROGERS http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-266192 ROGERS PLAYS U ,U PLAY ROGERS Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:57:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent-by-throttling-all-encrypted-transfers/#comment-266192 I live in a four unit building what I did was (5 years ago) subscribe to rogers cable ,internet, the works, and share that account between all 4 tenants all we need was a router with 6 ports was sufficient for internet connection,a digital box for each tv for cable, and now with their cag of 60G doesnt apply to us so in another words it's unlimited downloads cause where (i mean I) am an old customer our cable and internet bill is peanuts between the 4 of us sometimes we reach as much 200G downloads alone its slow but leave ur comp on 24/7 with at least 25 torrents downloading at the end of 3 or 4 days u got 25 movies or whatever it is ur downloading for peanuts ,like crajack says HOW U LIKE THEM APPLES NOW ROGERS. I live in a four unit building what I did was (5 years ago) subscribe to rogers cable ,internet, the works, and share that account between all 4 tenants all we need was a router with 6 ports was sufficient for internet connection,a digital box for each tv for cable, and now with their cag of 60G doesnt apply to us so in another words it’s unlimited downloads cause where (i mean I) am an old customer our cable and internet bill is peanuts between the 4 of us sometimes we reach as much 200G downloads alone its slow but leave ur comp on 24/7 with at least 25 torrents downloading at the end of 3 or 4 days u got 25 movies or whatever it is ur downloading for peanuts ,like crajack says

HOW U LIKE THEM APPLES NOW ROGERS.

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