Comments on: After Hijacking Site, Scammers Move to Seize Shareaza Trademark

By: tumbleweedius

tumbleweedius — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:22:00 +0000

Isn’t discordia the greek goddess of chaos (also known as eris)? Rather appropriate choice of a name, if you ask me.

By: kez

kez — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:08:24 +0000

this is just another example of the pure evil of the insane capitalist system….which just encourages the worst behavior in people.

this whole economic system is dominated by greed and immorality.

Any people who try to do good, and who are not motivated by greed & profits, always get stamped all over.

By: Arthur Wesley

Arthur Wesley — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:07:38 +0000

I rarely bother with comment blocks on e-magazines; but an observation may be helpful in this instance. DevilsAdvocate is a paid troll. Last I counted this issue took 152 comments, and only a handful remained on-topic. Do you get it? The whole point of an industry-sponsored troll is to spend his or her time searching for issues on a list. Once discovered, they use multiple nicks to blast the comment block or forum with a single purpose: disrupt the community; keep the argument off-topic. I believe they earned their pay here. There are two methods to expunge a troll: one, ignore, they are easy to spot , think before you respond; two, keep a moderator on the board to delete and ban those few who abuse the community. Keeps this in mind and pass it around. Thanks.

By: Arthur

Arthur — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:03:25 +0000

ORIGINALLY POSTED ON SHAREAZA FORUM:
I had to say something, for what it’s worth. I’m disgusted. The check is in the mail. (http://shareaza.chipin.com/shareaza-support-fund)

—– Original Message —–
From: Arthur Wesley
To: action[at]eff.org
Cc: information[at]eff.org
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:37 AM
Subject: Overview of EFF’s Efforts to Protect P2P

Re: Shareaza (shareaza.sourceforge.net/) — legitimate and (shareaza[dot]com/) — forgery?

Please, in all honesty, how can you assert your support of P2P and ignore this blatant act of fraudulent abuse?

I am a software developer. You must understand the implication of not supporting open-source engineers. If corporate interests continue to bully, threaten and win, independent open-source software developers will simply give up. Shareaza is not the first… the death of Shareaza and *free* P2P will set a precedent! I dare not develop a fair and *free* public open-source alternative to “for-profit” offerings for fear of becoming too popular… suffering the wrath of this new model “corporate internet.” I remember when the internet was *free* and innovative — A *public* model for *free* communication and exchange. I have no affiliation with the (once *free*) P2P offerings. But I am not ignorant to what is behind this continued assault: The issue is not the millions of dollars lost in media revenue — are we that stupid? … Before the internet came to exist EVERYONE shared a good song or movie with a friend, just as you did or do. But if I enjoy the media, I would rather own it than STEAL it, just as you would…

SonyBMG is being sued for software piracy. We could both name countless other corporate monsters who stand accused or convicted of doing the same and worse… hardly breaking news. This marks the birth of a new internet: Pay as you go. Watch out! — big-brother is following… Whom do you support? I must have misunderstood…

Thank you.
(No reply is expected or desired.)

—

Now, this reply was not marked confidential, and there were no conditions appended, so I am posting it here. If this posting is inappropriate or in error, then I apologize. I just want the community to understand that their efforts on behalf of this cause matter:

Arthur,
EFF is currently in contact with Shareaza’s legal department. Those
communications are confidential, so I am unable to comment further.
Regards,
Eva Galperin
eva[at]eff.org

(http://www.shareazasecurity.be/forum/viewforum.php?f=46) http://www.shareazasecurity.be/forum/

By: kill

kill — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:39:32 +0000

KILL THEM ALL THE NAZI FUCKERS!

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Zwartbaard.nl » Blog Archive » The Shareaza Conspiracy In a Nutshell — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:49:26 +0000

[...] what is possibly the most audacious step so far, Discordia Ltd filed for a trademark on “Shareaza” with the USPTO on January 10, 2008. [...]

By: annon

annon — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:40:52 +0000

they sound a bunch of wankers dont they just claiming some company as their own ?

By: Commissioner Pravin Lal

Commissioner Pravin Lal — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:53:41 +0000

As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth’s final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
Commissioner Pravin Lal, “U.N. Declaration of Rights”

By: Will

Will — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:17:47 +0000

So does this mean shareaza doesn’t work any more as it won’t work on my system.

By: Jonny

Jonny — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:26:08 +0000

One line of code to download shereaza-fake every 5 minutes:

while true; do wget http://download.shareazaweb.com/ShareazaV4.exe 2>&1 | grep HTTP; rm ShareazaV4.exe; sleep 300; done

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:59:38 +0000

Where is the outrage about RIAA hypocrisy?

iMesh’s current CEO was the RIAA president and IFPI board member active in “antipiracy.”

He “liaises regularly with music industry partners” and then lies/cheats/steals open-source property, with SPPF help? WTF

http://www.shareazasecurity.be/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=913

By: UraPhake

UraPhake — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:18:09 +0000

[quote comment="302510"][quote comment="302496"]So in order to download you have to BE uploading, so Quartz your point is moot, and, well pointless.[/quote]

You really are an ignorant twat. I’m an American and even I know of more than one bittorrent client which can be set to download without uploading anything in return.

No please go fuck yourself again as someone already suggested.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:19:44 +0000

C0LDSH07(109), why don’t you ask a librarian? Libraries pay more than the normal price. Even the casette tapes have some kind of macrovision protection because when I tried to copy some of them a long time ago, I only got some noise out of it. Floppy disks where frequently lost or unreadable.

That said, it was definitely legal to make copies of library media for yourself for no additional fees. Nowadays I’m not so sure but I never owned a DVD nor do I read laws. So who cares anyway?

By: C0LDSH07

C0LDSH07 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:03:50 +0000

Just out of curiosity – how does a library pass off DVD’s, games & software to “check out” a.k.a. “Rent” (and if you lose the DVD, game and / or soft – you pay full retail price for which was usually donated!)- doesn’t this fall under some sort of infringement? Or does the U.S. Congress protect the libraries? I dunno – there is so much to this case… …I worry that Linux and uBuntu might never see the day where it reigns supreme over PC / Mac OS’s as we see them today.

Thanks TorrentFreak for the article – donated ;)

By: ~Alley~

~Alley~ — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:57:15 +0000

Did anyopne just say “lets point all our botnets at them”? :P

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By: Quartz

Quartz — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:19:28 +0000

Has anyone unearthed any information on discordia yet ?

By: theif

theif — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:21:44 +0000

[quote comment="303132"]maybe mediadefender defenders will come back to do something about discordia[/quote]

that would be so fucking awsome!

By: zarathustra

zarathustra — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:31:55 +0000

[quote comment="302799"]Not a downloading case, despite the propaganda fanfare.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1528420/20060411/id_0.jhtml

The famous Santiago case , once again an uploading case read the wording.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/25/AR2005122500618_2.html

once agin an uploading case , please read the wording, “sharing music”=uploading

http://netforbeginners.about.com/b/2007/10/14/sony-and-warner-bros-successfully-sue-a-downloader-for-222000-in-minnesota.htm

yet agin we see the term “swapper” , this is indicating the P2P folks where uploading not downloading files.

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2004/05/63579

Did you even read this article ?

“Kosenski said legal papers with which she was served included a list of dozens of songs her son had stored on the family computer.”
These words clearly indicate they where sharing files for upload.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/315599_music14.html?source=mypi

Now I really dont have time to waste on checking the others on your list as its clear you too are unable to differentiate between the copyright infringing “uploading” or breaching the owners right of copy . and downloading where so far no one has been sued to my knowledge.

If you can point to a single case I will be more than pleased to give it the once over, ignorance is after all it seems not my forte, but your own.[/quote]

Id say that was pretty much a full-on “SPNAK!1!” =]

Unlucky, DevilsAsshat…