Sceners Threaten to Destroy BitTorrent, “One Step at a Time”
Written by enigmax on January 07, 2008SuperTorrents recently fell victim to an attack by alleged ‘Scene’ members who revealed the site owner’s identity. Further action was promised against torrent sites and today another tracker admin’s life has been turned upside down. The attacker’s message: “Destroying The P2P’s, One Step at a Time”
At the end of last year we reported on the unfortunate fate of Ersan, the administrator of SuperTorrents. He suffered multiple security breaches which revealed his identity along with the loss of $2000 in donations. Scene notices (text files carrying news/other info) carried lots of the gory details, with one ending in a threat: “cellkill is next”.
It seems that the administrator of a torrent site known as FTN has become the group’s latest BitTorrent victim, exactly as promised. In yet another notice with the header “Destroying The P2Ps, One Step at a Time”, part of the justification for the attack reads:
“Many have heard of him, but have never spoke to him, for a p2per word of him has come far as the scene. [real name removed], the owner of a torrent site known as FTN. His Torrent site steals thousands after thousands of releases from the scene, and then he has the nerve to go and say to other P2P’s STOP STEALING RELEASES FROM US?!??!? ILL BAN YO ASS! But wait, how is this even possible??
[real name removed] isn’t on the “Staff” page yet he’s still banning people, posting news and running the entire site. Mr. [removed], did you really think you were gonna leave without us giving you a goodbye present? Guess again ;-)”
The grim reality becomes clear as detail after detail of this admin’s personal life is revealed. His real name, date of birth, place of residence, personal email addresses, home ISP and IP address, places of education, friends, family - it’s quite a grim read. The claim that the admin is currently studying ‘Computer Security’ must pile on the embarrassment in spades. Family and friends who have also had their identities revealed can’t be too pleased that their FaceBook profiles are now public information.
Does this action against FTN signal the end of this ‘war’ on BitTorrent or will the MPAA and RIAA be rubbing their hands with delight on a regular basis? At least one other admin has been threatened for helping the admin of SuperTorrents after the original attack but there aren’t any more specifics at the moment.
The attackers left with this message: “We have yet again erased another torrent admin from existence. Other Groups, do your part to make the scene what it was in the beginning. Secure.”
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If I were the admins, I would have used passwords over 40 characters, that would make me the Secure Scene King.
I doubt this group even did any work on this one. It’s not the first time his info has been leaked, last time it was somebody who knew him personally who leaked it through wikipedia.
It’s also no secret that he’s studying. They probably got that top secret information from any of the forums posts or irc chats where his student status is mentioned.
Oh look at me daddy, I can read wikis and write nfos!
Further proof that ‘The Scene’ is just a breeding ground for attention whores.
good job guys,,, destorying each other
The scene would be a whole lot better off without P2P, since there would be much less pressure on authorities to crack down on the scene if the vast majority of people didn’t have easy access to the releases.
But the point is that no one is cracking down on the scene. All you here about is this BT site and that individual user get whupped on. As someone else said, “Teh Scene” should be grateful for all these sites taking the heat off them
P2P would be alot better off from the scene, giving them fame and potentionaly profits fom being known while getting nothing P2P could get by itself..
P2P dont need the scene, the scene needs P2P otherwice they wouldnt be known, and they DONT want to be unknown whatever you hear, their doing it for status, its a race and then you/your group have to be known. the more known the better status the better the race!
I think eventualy scene and P2P will be so intigrated it will just be one, scene already takes a ton of content from P2P, why fight it? just chill and let it keep evolving :)
i’m not really sure, if there weren’t any p2p-sites for them to go after there’d be more recources for them to get sceners…
i have never seen such a bored geeks fucks as you…get a life u bitch
ROFLLMFAO. More soaps.
THX scene , this is better then primetime. I think the scene will lose this one, but, it’s not even halftime yet. I love that they want to keep themselves hidden, but they put there stupid 3 letter name all over releases, and then cry when people figure them out. I grew up and stopped being so horney for cred, hopefully the scene will as well.
Sceners, how amazing they are. We get all of our files from them and yet we flame them when they are targeted due to our stupidity. I really do hope this motivates admins to step up security a few nothces as they’ve been slacking quite a bit lately.
So what ever happened to the motto of “We fight for the free exchange of data” or am I living in the past?
When filesharing becomes legal, the scene will have p2p to thank. For 20 years the sceners have been sharing files but have kept their doings hidden.
They have accomplished nothing. In just a couple of years however, p2p has created a revolution when it comes to copyright and filesharing.
The scene are just a bunch of attention-starved idiots who’s main drive is to be as “elite” as possible.
I wonder what would happen if all p2p users with direct access to the scene (aka uploaders)gave away all the info they knew to the feds. Guess the scene wouldn’t been so happy when their sensitive ftp info went public.
They think that isolating themselves will make them more secure, that’s just bullsh*t. They only thing they are after is being elite, nothing else.
[quote comment="257432"]Sceners, how amazing they are. We get all of our files from them and yet we flame them when they are targeted due to our stupidity. I really do hope this motivates admins to step up security a few nothces as they’ve been slacking quite a bit lately.[/quote]
they get more of theirs from us nowadays, they are stealing we a sharing, they want a locked up network amongst themselfes because their greedy and selfish, we share and give and mostly want open networks.
the scene is a bunch of greedy thugs trying to justify their stealing with personal use and claim others steal them to put it on internet.. most sceners have guys high up in the industries, is what they do justified then? P2Pers share with their friends, most of them buy the stuff themselves and then share it.
copyright is the criminal, not scene or P2P… fight copyright isntead of these useless baby wars..
If the scene really really wanted to, they could stop the spreading of rls’s by solving the following problem:
releases are usually (not always though, in the cases of grp’s spreading their stuff themselves) made available to p2p, like torrents etc, by the groups. What i mean by this is that they usually “publish” their cracked/ripped/capped material to certain private ftp sites. If they went through each individual properly and decided who they can trust to have their releases (i.e. who its intended for) then they can give those certain ppl access to the files. These topsites are the source of pretty much all files.
If they got rid of all racers (who they affiliate with, just for more “scene” attention) potentially they could get rid of all leaks. Its simple.
The reason the scene kiddies are exposing ppl like Ersan and now FTN ex admin Brandon is that they want to believe that they themselves are NOT the cause of the leaks. If they invested just a little money for their own private servers they could keep it to themselves.
I myself am not against selling of warez IF, and ONLY if you are the person responsible for cracking/ripping and encoding (i.e. ppl in the groups). A lot of ppl in the scene DO sell and thats a fact, its just very frowned upon and can be punishable to those who become jealous. If the sceners sold releases for a while they could get money to pay for AWESOME servers…
thanks for reading my 2 pence…im sure a lot fo you will disagree and probably find flaw’s in my arguement. Bring it on though, I would like to discuss this further.
xx
cuxxial
Anonymous you know not of what you speak.
Where to p2p releases come from? The fucking scene. They do NOT need p2p, p2p has decimated the scene and made release groups a household name.
P2p NEEDS the scene, or it’s just 1 giant demonoid style cluster fuck.
These scene pussies doing this just goes to show you they don’t even do it for the reasons they quote anymore.
Yes it’s a race, WITHIN THE SCENE, it has nothing to do with limewire, bittorrent, or any other p2p program. It’s a race against the other scene groups to get your release pred and uploaded to topsites first.
The scene doesn’t want to be ‘known’ they want to be respected by other scene groups, not us lowly torrent users.
Trust me kiddies, I’ve dealt with these people, they is a very small core that are still in it for the thrill, the rest are selling warez, or are to stupid to protect themselves.
P2p makes the scene to public, but it does NOTHING to reveal the people, or help you nail them. They do that by selling warez, and being greedy and selling invites into their little clubs, or just being plain dumb and filling an FBI / MPAA server full of warez.
A merger of p2p with the scene would spell disaster, and the complete end of the piracy movement we know and love today.
The scene will NEVER embrace torrents, that’s a fact, as it’s about as unsecure as selling pirated DVDs infront of your local police station.
No one is “stealing” releases from these groups, THEY upload them to topsites, THEY allow users to access them and THEY take NO measures to stop their releases from getting on torrent sites.
Their responce? A few emails, a ddos or two, and their latest pathetic narcing.
Go ahead and DDoS as many torrent sites as you can, and go ahead and reveal the personal info. Anyone stupid enuff to run an illegal torrent site that can easily be linked back to them with little or no effort, is hurting all of us.
If it was that easy for these guys to get that info, just think what the mpaa/riaa/fbi could know having the law on their side, and the sneak and peek provision, seeing as downloading torrents is a form of terrorism.
Big deal, we know the name of the admins, who cares? How is that destroying them? It’s not, rather, it’s going to backlash in their faces as most unconnected people are finally getting a hint of what the scene is really like, and would probably turn on them in a second.
So here’s where I’m at, if I was still running a dump, or had any direct connection to any of the groups taking part in this nonsense (which I do not) I would flip on them in a second, I would call the fbi/mpaa whoever I needed to, to help setup a nice little sting and see how these little punk bitches like prison, cause that’s where they’d be going.
I think the scene should get back to what it does best, releasing warez, and bickering back and fourth like retarded third graders, any of the groups wanting to push this further should be scene banned for being fucktards.
Yeah … good way, fighting each others. NOT … bunch of moroons.
I have supplied some promocd’s to a friend, who is a scener. This simply forces me to stop that and releases them to public trackers. There are more than enough ways to stay anonymous with that.
I also have seen some of my rips,
which i uploaded to OINK, being released by the scene. Scene is just nothing, nada, noppes without their suppliers.
So Mininova, TPB, torrentbox, etc … here i come.
For fuck sake.. The millions of people who use the Bittorrent protocol have uploaded much, much more than you “sceners” ever have. Stop being jealous, you can have your releases and keep them to your little private communities. Pointless.. but if that’s what you want.
this entire thing is just really immature. i understand that the scene blames p2p for bringing filesharing into the spotlight, but do tehy really think that nobody would know what they were doing were it not for BT? And the fact that they attacked him for stealing their stuff and then not allowing it to be spread further is the most hypocritical thing ever. according to him he was doing, by definition, EXACTLY what the scene does.
and to the users who have stated that FTN does not allow users to share their packs, that’s what MOST 0-day sites do if you haven’t notices. discogs and movie/tv packs are usually internal compilations that sets each site apart.
Interesting…
[quote comment="257341"]This is an interesting P2P sandwich, we’ve got the MPAA/RIAA pushing from the top and the hacker anarchists pushing from the bottom. Who knew the scene could get this complex and dramatic.
I wonder if it’s the pirates that actually sell content for money who are really behind these “outings”.[/quote]
+1, insightful.
[quote comment="257444"]If the scene really really wanted to, they could stop the spreading of rls’s[/quote]
Therefor what can we deduce? Perhaps that not everyone in “Teh Scene” are total douchebags and may too embrace the idea that information/knowledge wants to be free.
Honestly, I think many in Teh Scene have good cause to be security paranoid, they are responsible for millions of dollars of copyright infrigement (if you believe in that kind of thing, and the FBI does) afterall, but it’s very nieve for anyone to believe the claim that they’re going to stop P2P. The non-scene layers of contnt distribution are nescessary to the continued success of the internets (assuming the point is to get us all wired and consuming, one giant global consumer-indexed database), but obviously for those providing the content there is a need to ensure that the “leaks” between Teh Scene and P2P are secure.
No “rogue” site-ops welcome is the real story here, imo.
good going, keep it up. Destroy all the scene trackers!
Wow. Wow.
So, we all need to ignore the scene and get hold of DVD’s and rip them ourselves and leave these poor little boys to themselves. Shit, DVD Decrypter and Virtualdub work fine. Is it just me, or does this all look like the Scene are the only people in the world who know how to rip a DVD? Shit, my PC is average, my skills minimal but even I can do the work with decent quality. Sounds like far too many egos involved.
what is the actual purpose of the scene, and their releases? to distribute amongst each other, or to other groups? i dont get it. surely filesharing is about sharing files, regardless of who its with? meh.
the scene isn’t run by 11 year olds as people say. it run by 18 plus who have lots of money to pay for servers and leech accounts on other servers. this was a smart move on the scene side cause their helping the mpaa/riaa take down the bigger bt sites. the scene is only composed of 20 or 30 thousand members, thats nothing compared to the total amount of users on various p2p sites. the next site to be attacked will be ScT, if any of you read scene notices you would see that ScT is a big problem. same goes for swedvdr, swebits, norbits etc…
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