Secret Anti-Piracy Treaty Turns ISPs into Pirates
Written by Ernesto on November 04, 2009A leaked draft of the Internet chapter of the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) reveals that ISPs will be held liable for the infringements of their customers, unless they disconnect those accused. The draft aims to strengthen the power of the entertainment industries and other copyright holders, at the cost of the public.
ACTA is an international agreement that aims to target piracy and counterfeiting globally. The degree of secrecy surrounding the negotiations is astonishing. Many institutions, the press and various individuals have requested that participating countries provide an insight into their plans, but none have succeeded thus far.
While the public is denied access to drafts of the controversial agreement, lawmakers continue to receive input from anti-piracy lobbyists such as the RIAA and MPAA. Today, the 6th round of ACTA negotiations have started in Seoul, South Korea, where representatives from the U.S, the European Union, Canada, Australia and several other countries will discuss the treaty’s content.
As happened previously, parts of the document have leaked out to the public and they reveal that the agreement’s scope is even more far-reaching than previously expected. The Internet chapter of ACTA has very little to do with counterfeiting, but adopts many of the same policies that anti-piracy lobbyists have been calling for.
Among other things, the ACTA draft calls for a global three-strikes policy to disconnect alleged file-sharers from the Internet, without solid evidence or a court order. If ISPs won’t do so, they will be held liable for the copyright infringements of their customers.
Similarly, all participating countries have to adopt a ‘notice and takedown’ policy where copyright holders can request ISPs to remove infringing materials, again without having to provide solid evidence or proof that they actually own the copyrights. When ISPs don’t comply with the requests they will be held liable, which means that they will be seen as pirates themselves.
Unfortunately, all parties involved in the negotiations refuse to make the ACTA plans public, effectively preventing any constructive input from the public. Yesterday, Knowledge Ecology International (KEI) petitioned President Obama to change this situation and be transparent about the agreement that will affect millions of people. Until that happens we can only fear the worst.
Previously: Millions of File-Sharers Hide Their Identities Online
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105 Responses
I am glad I’m with iiNet.
Secrecy is in anti phase to open democracy,start some meaningful dialogue with your political representative now and let them know that your not interested in non democratic or illegal “deals” that drive a coach and horses through well thought out exising regulation on the statue books, and you dont think they should support them either. democracy is our right, lets not let the recording industry monopolise our lives for profit.
Very sad…
And tomorrow Hadopi will be part of the Telecoms Package:
http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=429&Itemid=9
One step more toward ACTA
The entertainment industies seem to think they ARE the law and can judge other companies and impose themselves on everyone.
Real life isnt like the movies, so fcuk off trying to make it that way.
How about they just switch off the internet for everyone and be done with it. Perhaps they could then charge people everytime they think about a movie.
/agree with #4
In the process of writing the previous comment I thought about Jurrasic Park and Minority Report.
At a $5 per thought that’s $10. For everyone that then goes on to think about those movies as well that’s $10 times n people.
From the Concise Oxford Dictionary,
Democracy. A classless and tolerant form of society.
I know this is only a small part of the definition, but I believe, the most important part.
I do not believe for one moment we actually live in a democracy, I think we have been told time and time again we do, but where is the evidence, looks to me like the banks and massive companies rule most of the planet, and the counties that they don’t rule are the counties that we are at war with.
So we’ll see won’t we.
Personally I welcome this attack on internet users as I believe if anyone can beat these power hungry, selfish, bottom feeders, it’s hackers, they all just need to WAKE UP and fight back,THE TIME IS NOW. Maybe I am wrong, but I can’t see a classless and tolerant society. All I see is people everywhere complaining but actually doing nothing. Here in the UK it’s got absolutely ridiculous our government has bled us dry, almost everybody has massive debt, all the most important items are massively over priced from fuel (£1.20 a litre)to food (£1.20 for 1 lamb chop) and a minimum wage of £5.80 (oh and no jobs), now thats what I call limiting your freedom. Big profit for big companies.
The UK has a slogan you know
Sh*t on the little man especially if he has a family.
I have no doubt our government will take and control the net here, it’s one of the only things left they haven’t already got. This is how they will do it, make ISP,s liable, because at the end of they day ISP,s are part of the problem, they are all big companies and they will just fall into line.
Democracy is such a lie.
You can add freedom and progress to the lie list as well.
i’m glad i live in switzerland and its not illegal to download, only uploading is illegal.
@ 9 lol don’t be crazy, think!!! your in Europe too, you’ll be held accountable just the same. Don’t sit there telling us its not your problem.
For that is a terrible attitude and not accurate. It is your problem too.
If everyone was a leech there would be no content, erm?….
One step ahead to global corporate
fascism hand in hand global political
corruption, the most countries that
participate in this so-called
negotiantions are supposed to be
so-called democracys…what a sick
joke, they want to fuck all of Us
just check the list on non-participating countries in ACTA, and select your vpn accordingly…
@10
Switzerland is in Europe, but not part of the EU… ;)
it’s no wonder they are winning every case everywhere no matter how ridiculous and flimsy the evidence are, i knew there was something happening behind closed doors and apparently i was right!
an international studio and music lobby that keeps it’s acts secret that’s infuriating!
Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) sounds more like an Anti-Competition Trade Agreement
Shit shit shit I’m torrenting the fuck out my connection just so I can get everything I wont be able to in the next few months.
lets all move to china they don’t listen to any of this crap
Why god? WHY?
When we heard about conspiracy theories about controlling everyone’s life and activities, everyone laughed and thought those guys were damn crazy. No one is laughing now.
All hail to the mighty copyright!
hurt them, where u can!: don’t buy their stuff
this is BS!
The customers have all of the power, and they have none. No law can change that.
1) Get involved: http://www.savetheinternet.com
2) Research the candidates and vote
If a law like this ever comes into effect:
3) Support only independent labels.
well if this gets throw no will have any privacy on the net u will be watched on every thing u do.
most people i know will just
disconnect they don’t want their privacy invaded and i agree.
as for the anti p2p mob they just crooks and they can not tell accurately what is been down loaded
whether your a pirate or not they want u disconnected because they say so Boo on you.
so much for the world going forward with technology the anti p2p mobs are going to send it backwards.
the isp’s and other online services will stuff or worse they will just close down because people wont go online to buy stuff or pay bills in the fear they are been spied a pond
there are a lot of mums and dads out there think that these anti p2p mobs are going to be able to get hold of there personal infomation
i don’t blame them for thinking that way the way the anti p2p mobs carry on.
time for everyone to move underground yes that means off msn too and onto darknets.
ACTA is an international agreement that aims to fuck us all over.
when will someone call for a real boycott of hollywood and riaa.if we could all boycott the bastards they would be screwed good.
i no longer buy any new films from hollywood nor do i buy any new music from corporate labels and riaa signin fool artists.
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Spread the word, that’s all we can do now.
Why can’t the ISPs form their own international agreement?
From what I’ve heard of this deal, it sounds like TF is blowing it out of proportion. There have been talks of a global 3 strikes rule but it has also been criticized by many. The bigger issue is to somehow regulate Spam, Phishing Sites and Identity Theft. Actual criminal offenses, not civil cases that deal with the Entertainment Industry. We don’t know what version these documents are even and so this could have been some countries idea of adding it to the draft, but not the actual draft itself. I wouldn’t worry, most ISPs would boycott if they were forced to do a 3 strikes rule, and you know the US. They back out of just about everything eventually.
“The draft aims to strengthen the power of the entertainment industries and other copyright holders, at the cost of the public.”
That’s like saying an international crackdown on autotheft is a setback for public transportation.
Government will have the same respect for digital property as material property, regardless of who owns it. The entertainment industry is a tiny drop in the bucket of global digital industry. This issue has less and less to do with music and movies everyday.
Digital theft will one day be regarded as a sad but temporary chapter in the “settling” of the internet. Do the TF regulars still cling to the outdated belief that anarchy online will prevail in the name of “freedom”?
The spin here is beyond dizzying. It’s finally flat out innaccurate, and preaching to the choir.
Wow, now tell me thats not just plain messed up!
Jess
http://www.private-web.se.tc
I saw an article in my local paper recently that was kinda relevant. The local council put a new tax on local business’s – a tax that was “not welcome” to say the least. anyway, EVERY business in the city basically refused to pay. Not one business payed the council anything as far as this tax goes. It was totally unfeasible to shutdown every local business for non-compliance, or even take them to court or whatever, so the new law was scrapped. Similar idea to drugs really – if EVERY person who did any illegal drugs was dragged through court and ultimately locked up, the cost to the country would be astronomical! not to mention the fact there wouldnt be enough room in the prisons….not by a LONG way!
Ive been trying to find an online link to this story but i cant find one =(
Anyway, my point is, if a crap law is passed, and no one follows it, arnt governments forced to retract it? Either that or criminalise a very large portion of theyre own society?
If these ISP’s made they’re own international agreement to ignore the new law, and to protect the privacy of theyre customers, governments of the world would essensially be totally powerless to stop them….either that or as some of you say “shutdown the internet” =)
Just a thought =)
Strength in numbers people ;)
@27
“Do the TF regulars still cling to the outdated belief that anarchy online will prevail in the name of “freedom”?”
well….yes!
People throughout history have died for freedom. I would gladly give my life if it meant freedom for even a small amount people.
A relativly “small” amount of “anarchy” online is preferable to REAL anarchy all over the world as people loose they’re freedom.
*sigh*
27. The crime of theft involves depriving someone of something, if I steal a couch, another person can’t use the couch. With copyright, if I watch a movie, it doesn’t stop anyone else from watching it. Thus copyright infringement is not theft.
almost noone cares about antiquated exchange systems in this context. You are out of date already.
@fusseltier
Just keep thinking like that and they’ll own you in the end, too.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me
Reasoned Mind first of all lets set a few wordings straight. Using blaber like Digital Theft is rediculouse. In legal terms you are talking about immaterial things. Your reasoning in the word Ditigal theft implys that theft has taken place.
THEFT BY DEFINTION IMLYS THAT ONE THING IS TAKEN FROM PERSON A AND BY PERSON B. A BEEING THE ONE WHO HENCE IS NOT CAPABLE OS USING IT AGAIN. THAT IS NOT THE CASE IN THE DIGITAL DOMAIN. A COPY IS A PERFECT REPLICA CREATED AT 0 COST TO PERSON A.
Intellecual Property on the other hand is a set of fictisouce right to use someones creation .. therefore a IMATERIAL RIGHT that for some out of sack reason can be resold (example – SONY BMG cataloug) meaning that thnx to 100 years of profeetering on the backs of creatives all around the world ceratin parties vould like to equate with MATERIAL RIGHTS and as your wording sugests the 100 of Millions of Dollars invested in the rebranding of terminology seem to start paying off…
The internet is a free space. Take it kind of a steam pipe for all the perversions of the human race. If you close a stempipe to run an engine like the lobbyies are trying to do its gonna blow sooner or later.
Right now we are heading more into a Bladerunner future instead of and open honset we are one species way.
ACTA is just another insturment to increse profit margins. Its sad thou that after so many years some humans still dont get it.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD WE EVER EQUATE MATERIAL AND IMMATERIAL PROPERTY ! ITS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IN THE WORLD OF THE RIAA A MOTHER, SOLE PROVIDER FOR HER CHILDREN VOULD HAVE TO PAY MILIONS FOR COPYING A SONG FROM WHICH THE ACTUAL AUTHOR WILL HAVE NO MORE USE TO SOME MIDDLEMAN WITH SHITLOADS OF CASH OR GO TO JAIL FOR 5 YEARS AND SHARE A CELL WITH A CONVICTED CAR THIEF/RAPIST.
As a legal professional I say that IS NOT RIGHT!
@9 , @10 , @12
Indeed, Switzerland isn’t part of the EU. But according to wikipedia:
In October 2007 the United States, the European Community, Switzerland and Japan announced that they would negotiate ACTA
So Switzerland would fall under it anyway.
Otherwise:
Does anyone else deem it strange that an ISP can be held responsible for its customers? I mean, if we do so because they pass on traffic, wouldn’t any owner of a router the traffic bounces trough be responsible as well?
Petition to President Obama, regarding transparency of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement http://www.keionline.org/acta-petition
Join this Facebook group to organize and continue the fight
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=61187551783
I can almost see this being something that they try to enforce but get no where. It will be a law that exist that may pop up time to time but no one will enforce it.
Also I have a hard time believing that they could pass this on a global level. We will simply put VPN servers in other countries to use the “free and uncensored” internet for all :P
My 2 cents
“reveals that ISPs will be held liable for the infringements of their customers, unless they disconnect those ACCUSED.”
Accused?
No court order, no evidence, just accusation?
I accuse the MAFIAA and all anti-piracy companies of infringement, I’ve no evidence or basis but I accuse them and just to be safe, all TelCos should disconnect them.
I hate to see a small number of individuals secretly plotting against billions of others, and still feel powerless to kick these puss and greed filled merchants where it hurts.
recalling the one who mentioned jurassic park: “life always finds a way”…. people always find a way
napster died
winmx died
and many more
there are new laws, and new groups but people still share copyrighted material (as always)
McAfee says it’s on the rise NOW, of course, with malware attached
It’s a viral epidemic, like the flu or like a bugbear virus, industry can only react to the effects.
i don’t think this law will pass, but if it does, there will be some rough days… before someone finds a way
Democracy, like everything else, has been bought and abused by Big Business behind government doors. There will be be no transparency or accountability, which is how they like it, and that’s why we find the problems we have today. Big Business has used the isolated environment of the governments around the world to corrupt them.
Basically massive corporation and industries are the ones actually running things, not our elected officials and senior bureaucrats, who really don’t give a damn about the people they are suppose to be representing. We are living in world of Cyberpunk, minus the SciFi, where the majority of humanity is just a resource to be exploited by the rich & powerful.
You see what these people want to do to our societies, guys? To “protect” their outdated business model, all of us must suffer. This is why you have to boycott the MAFIAAs of the world.
If people can’t get free video games, music, and movies, they will just be pushing the populace one step closer to revolution, which is long over due. I for one look forward to the violence and mayhem against the corporations and the CEOs who run them.
I demand my pound of flesh!
Of course the RIAA/MPAA has secret meetings with lawmakers. They’ve been wining, dining and brainwashing them for years. This is why we need a watchdog group to keep an eye on their activities.
That’s right. Disconnect people whether or not they are guilty. The victim will just spend more time outdoors never hearing or buying a song or movie ever again, and they’ll pass this trend on to friends and family. All potentially legitimate lost business gone forever. Of course the ISP loses business too, but who cares because the RIAA/MPAA has to protect their outdated business model.
Hack wifi’s, courier and swap content on flash drives, buy used CDs/DVDs, borrow them from the library/friends/family, and copy/share everything. Go out and spend time with friends and family. You don’t actually need the Internet to share files and to enjoy life.
Just move to Scotland you can get away with murder there!
New Zealands M.Ps are telling us ACTA is not for chasing downloaders,but we will soon see.
CRYSIS!
God damn.. Can’t we just found a new country, that isn’t affected by other’s law?
CALL FOX NEWS!
They can finally be of some use as if pointed out too them that this is a direct attack against our freedom.
for example, my younger brother downloads Rush Limbaugh & Hannity’s radio broadcast to educate himself and know what is really going on in the world and then has the audacity to download the all mighty (praise him!!) Bill O’Reilly’s TV show, then me, my mother & my father (who are God fearing,Card carrying conservatives,and all round salt of the earth) can’t get on the Internet to do banking or get unbiased info and news from other outlets then the socialistic mainstream media.
This is clearly a socialistic (Communistic) ploy by the Obama admin to destroy the USA to prepare for China´s and the Muslim takeover.
Amen
Oh look, retarded mind is back, desperately trying to spin copying as theft as usual…
We are on the road to dystopia and
that’s not a fiction!
What we see is global corporate
fascism hand in hand with global
political corruption, the most participents on these so-called
negotiations are from so-called
democracies (what a joke),
the strings are pulled by a bunch of
rich fatcat sickf***k thugs and they
give a sh*t on democraycy, a dictatorship is more profitable, and
they give a sh*t on ordinary people
@29 Nov 04, 2009 at 16:31 by Reasoned Mind:
Digital theft will be known one day as the savior of the world working class that will have to realize that only work produce anything.
Exploitation of ideas only hamper the execution of those ideas and it is bad for society.
It is not the “knowledge economics” that will win. It is the “Service Society”. There is no property in ideas is ludicrous to think that. Services on the other hand can be commercially exploited and doesn’t need far abusive protections either.
Copyright is a societal cancer that has grow and will kill any hope the working class has to work again LoL
That is why only countries with no real growth want that. They think they will be able to strong arm China, Russia, India, Brazil and others into paying them for ridiculous “intellectual property” LoL
Well, that sounds reasonable. If ISPs really are against piracy, they would try to prevent it by doing what is within their power. If their own customers are using their services to break the law, they should not enable them by turning away.
You just continue your bad bahaviour. And we’ll continue to win.
I know it sounds alarmist but how is this democracy?
Reasoned Mind’s analogy is amusing but senseless.
http://www.xbomber.co.uk
That’s like saying an international crackdown on auto-duplication is a setback for public transportation.
There I correct it for him LoL
If you duplicate your neighbors care is a serious crime LoL
It is a sad and depressing world when the entertainment industry possess more power than governments and able to topple down the sovereignty of nations and their judicial system.
Money can sure corrupt a lot of good people.
This is fucking scary. The industry is no doubt shooting itself on the foot, but doing so with a grenade launcher in everyone’s vicinity.
Tweet #ACTA. The whole world must know about this crap.
You mean private interests are doing illegal backroom deals without public scrutiny???
Next thing you’ll be telling us we’re losing democracy! (Hint: We never had it)
New idea – our own network! Let’s connect between our neighbours and friends using our own servers and cables – we will be able to share what ever we want ;) Soon we’ll have to go that way or buy everything.
This is disgusting. The people backing ACTA are monsters.
ISPs should be held accountable because they facilitate file sharing by carrying information.
Microsoft facilitates because they provide the operational sytem.
Intel for the processor.
Sony for camcorders.
You are allowed to think this does not make sense.
It is not the one that carries information that should be held accountable.
What about all that information that ISPs carry? Interesting.
I would love to control that. But first, I would try to invent a good excuse.
I want names.
None of what I read gave me names, except here:
White House shares the ACTA Internet text with 42 Washington insiders, under non disclosure agreements
http://keionline.org/node/660
No names, a lure, and lots of people speaking about what they can’t see and don’t know.
Well, good thing for us in the US is that this sort of abridgment of due process is almost impossible to have in the US, short of calling filesharers terrorists. The Supreme Court would strike down US involvement in this treaty in about 5 seconds.
Ive got an idea. IF this treaty gets off the ground and goes into effect. Lets all of us start reporting everyone for copyright infringement. I mean EVERYONE. It shouldnt take more than maybe 10 or 20% of an ISP business to be cut off before they start fighting for us. The info provided here highlights the inherent holes in a policy such as this. The fact that ISp are to cut off “suspected” infringers without evidence is a big hole in this policy. If that is the case then lets report EVERYONE and see how long the disconnects without evidence last.
@chisophugis – If Ive read correctly it is the US that is spearheading this treaty. Not good news for US citizens.
start sueing the post office then for transporting illegle stuff how stupid to think the isp is resposible for what i download .nobody has mentioned on all these blog sites about online gaming witch uses a lot of band width lol
Well, if it is ever implemented in Europe, i’m pretty sure it will be tested in the court for Human rights. I can’t imagine that it will hold there…
otherwise i guess it will be anarchy… who can still trust their government if they throw this upon us? I certainly won’t.
As it is November the 5th, and as we celebrate what nearly happened here in the UK in 1605, one can only wonder if Guy had the right idea.
Please
Guido rocks
Not sure if anybody else has thought about this, but there’s a really easy way to take this shit down, if it’s adopted in the form presented (and if I understand it correctly).
ISPs are not small companies, and are usually part of larger corporate conglomerates (which coincidentally also own movie/music studios, record labels, etc). It seems to me that the ‘notice and takedown’ policy is not in any way limited to people that actually own any copyrights, and the inane phrasing of that clause allows people to claim (wrongfully) that anyone else is infringing on a copyright; the implication here is that you are the copyright holder.
A massive, concentrated attack of ‘notice and takedown’ requests of completely random people targeting completely random companies could do wonders in the fight against this egregious display of pseudo-legislation.
Update: Someone already mentioned my idea – sorry for the repeat.
@jon7272:
That’s actually an interesting analogy, the post office. I guess it should have been the mailman who was responsible for that Anthrax scare.
And some food for thought: think about what would happen if everyone who currently downloads copyrighted material just… kept on downloading copyrighted material.
It’s a vast online community, and no national government (or at least no provincial government) would EVER want that many people to instantly be disconnected from the internet. Think about the education gap this would represent among competing global powers.
Not to mention the revenue ISPs would invariably lose – in fact, this may be an excuse to introduce anti-net-neutrality legislation to “save” the ISPs from their falling profits.
All around bad move, ACTA. I think you’re going to be fucked from the get-go on this one.
I’ve an idea.
Let’s remind the entertainment industry they aren’t the boss and they need the customer.
Let’s have worldwide boycott.
For just 2 weeks no-one anywhere watches a single movie; not on TV, not a movie house, not a rented DVD, not the internet – NADA – We might just help them realise…
The customer is why they exist and if you leave a $10 bill lying on a park bench for a week it’s not going to be there when you return.
Besides presumption of guilt and punishment without proof/trial is really just not nice….
Pirate Bay, can you arrange – get the message out – on the news etc?
DarkNets will trump internet someday. It will run overtop Internet, allowing 100% encrypted communication with TOR network. Sad reality is, file sharing will become most important part of DarkNet because it’s being kicked off normal Internet. Let M.A.F.I.A.A. have their Internet police. We will build our OWN state, elsewhere!
I could say democracy is failing, however it won’t. I mean, it’s a matter of time for the marketing principles start showing their effects.
There was this beer company that bought another beer brand and used the newly acquired one as a brand for the younger people and the established brand for the current base. Ten years later the acquired brand has become the leader because the old people died and the younger ones kept drinking that brand that was marketed as a brand for young and active people.
MAFIAA is cultivating a very dangerous seed. The ones that download the most, the ones that think copyright is bullshit are the young ones. Even the pro-copyright education is failing to achieve the desired results. In a few years MAFIAA will harvest their doom.
You fight against your consumers you lose them. That’s pretty simple.
Scandal!
Democracy… a classless and tolerant society.
from the oxford dictionary.
Would everyone please stop saying we live in a democracy
WE DON’T.
@ 8 hey dummy we are a constitutional republic not a democracy, look it up
Its very simple. Dont watch any of it. Tv shows,movies,radio nothing. Live your life with out it. Ask your self this, why do you need to be entertained? Why do I call any of it entertainment? The many points of the material we see an hear has been well thought out points of view, to get to you an change/skew your view. Wake up,there all around you(from “they live”), I speak of the bottom feeders,the ones that WANT your attention, why??? Money an the power it brings them. Thats it,now go out an live your lives with out them, you’ll love it.
ABOVE
“the ACTA draft calls for a global three-strikes policy to disconnect alleged file-sharers from the Internet, without solid evidence or a court order. If ISPs won’t do so, they will be held liable for the copyright infringements of their customers”
This opens to door to some very interesting precedents….
The gun-maker becomes guilty of the murder the gun-buyer is accused (not found guilty) of….
The car maker gets to pay the speeding fine + take the day in court for DUI.
Maybe this new way of deciding law will have it’s benefits….
I mean Well! This is saying that if a woman hits her husbands over the head with a Russell Hobbs iron three times instead of ironing his shirts then Russell Hobbs, not the angry woman, is guilty of attempted murder.
Yeah I’m sure Obama is concerned about First Amendment issues… so naive :(
I like the idea of inverting the streaming data in such a way as to render all the search engines unusuable, all of their ’spyware’ obsolete…
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html
Tells us:
The ACTA, “whose text Obama’s administration refused to disclose due to “national security” concerns”
means “That ISPs have to proactively police … This means that it will be impossible to run a service like Flickr or YouTube or Blogger…”
Anyone remember Iran’s election riots + how people got their info out past govt control?
Every govt (esp. democracies) will have been watching + wondering “We might need to control internet info flow. How…?”
Well. Now we know how.
Being guilty by suspicion is not law or justice or copyright control — it’s draconian national security + they’re trying to enforce it worldwide under the guise of paying the poor artists.
How ’bout we all just get bigger antennaes on our wireless routers and go over their heads… again.
Just sayin…
“reveals that ISPs will be held liable for the infringements of their customers, unless they disconnect those ACCUSED.”
Yet another hint of fascism creep.
The fascists simply don’t understand that if they create an imbalance in nature, nature will naturally correct that imbalance. He who creates a liability must also provide a remedy. Besides, that agreement is a fiction and statutes can only apply to legal fictions such as corporations or persons. Your name in capital letters is a legal fiction or a corporation and thats how they tie you, the natural human being. With your signature and your energy. They need your signature because it’s valuable and they need your energy because you create wealth for them. Don’t fall for the FRAUD. (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Dollar)
Besides, Piracy is a legitimate commercial enterprise and this treaty is proof of that. With this treaty, they are boarding your vessel and taking control of something that is not theirs for the taking. Don’t fall for the FRAUD.
So many silly new laws and it seems the president of ‘change’ agrees to any paper that goes on his desk. I thought we were going to see a stronger democracy, not a weaker one.
In the words of Lisa Simpson:
“Just don’t look, Just don’t look”
They only have power because we give it to them. I suggest voluntary takedown off all protected material, followed by the collective turning of our backs to their protected tripe called “entertainment”.
One thing the net has shown each and every one of us is that we can entertain ourselves. Screw them, let them keep their crappy work under protection, we can and should move on.
The only music that interests me is from albums which I purchased many years ago and were lost or otherwise destroyed. Modern music mostly sucks.I got my Billy Idol and BoneyM and Rammstein and Poison back again. wheeeee Happy day.
U2 move to Israel. Rappers drink anti freeze.
There will never be anyone to top Tennesee Ernie Ford in talent.
Comcast has already given me three warnings not to download through torrent movies and tv shows!!!
why don’t ISP’s disconnect the RIAA and others :).
More sissy mind control lawyer freaks that have no concept of life on this planet or why they even exist other than to kiss someone’s ass for money. Copyright is a legal sham of the word game elite soon to be replaced by a network of indestructible liquid robots.
I’m always amazed at the ease with which the control and regulation of public goods are handed over to private interests. People, using the web, have been very adaptable in circumventing attacks by privateers like the RIAA. In this instance, one solution may be to decentralize internet access to the level of individuals or small groups. I doubt that Net Neutrality advocates are as well organized and funded as their adversaries…but, they are certainly more creative ant technically adept.
If they won’t play by the rules of democracy, why should we? Besides, drive-by downloading from a poorly-configured, unsecured wireless network works just as well.
I don’t respect or recognize invisible treaties and laws in a democratic government.
“Every generation needs a new revolution.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Please read and listen…
iamthewitness.com
whatreallyhappened.com
judicial-inc.org
wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com
So if a bank robber escapes using a toll road, the owners of the road are liable?
hmmm…. back room deals…sounds illegal to me when the general public is not allowed to know anything hardly.
Good call on the Tweet#ACTA. The key to transparency and change is to get more people riled up about the treaty, though moving into non-digital realms like television would be an even greater victory.
“Watermarked secret documents” definitely leaves a bad taste in the mouth of transparency advocates. And the worst part: ACTA hobbles YouTube, a platform for aspiring musicians and breaking foreign news alike. It kills the idea of the Internet being a collective of knowledge for sharing and information literacy.
And the funny thing is, transparency always garners more public support for any organization in the end. If anti-ACTA succeeds, they are going to be quite the backpeddlers.
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