Comments on: Shareaza Team Fights Back With Project Panthera

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:19:27 +0000

And Still Nothing….WTF???

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:51:32 +0000

Day went by, no release, no word, nothing.

By: kevogod

kevogod — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:23:06 +0000

#38

Because the developers currently working on Shareaza are NOT working on Panthera? Does that answer your question?

By: Samp2p

Samp2p — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:20:05 +0000

I don’t think you can get those single much-sought-after classic rare files you want in torrents.

By: sadistic_cunt

sadistic_cunt — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:58:28 +0000

well i have used both p2p and torrents yes p2p is great but the problem is tooooooo meny viruses and i think from personal perspective that torrents are the future and you complain that this is thiving well yes but without this you wold have to buy things so shut up and d/l lol keep going Shareaza you will win simply because your users the loyal ones anyway lol go Shareaza

By: Zig

Zig — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:27:08 +0000

#41 Okay, the initial developer of Shareaza had a somewhat cavalier approach when he released the Gnutella 2: he didn’t refer to the community, built everything on his own (taking from the community but not giving back), at that time Shareaza was a proprietary freeware (whereas the specs of Gnutella are public), and the name made some users believe that Gnutella 2 was the improved successor of Gnutella whereas it’s not.
More information on http://www.slyck.com/story100_Gnutella_vs_Gnutella2_Part_1
(just keep in mind that BearShare is not a Gnutella client since its takeover by iMesh/Discordia guys).

That said, years later isn’t it finally time to turn the page? He released the source code and left the project (unfortunately). Shareaza is now maintained by volunteers, and personally I’m pretty grateful to all these LimeWire ultrapeers I’m connected to, so I certainly don’t want LimeWire to go out of business :) If we don’t turn the page, it means /they/ win…

By: Samp2p

Samp2p — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:08:43 +0000

Well @ #41 & #42

Maybe zab (LimeWire Developer) needs a new job as he will surely be unemloyed when LW goes down the drain after the court case.

By: Felipe

Felipe — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:52:08 +0000

forget the “aside” the correct word is “together”. :)

By: arboretum

arboretum — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:20:45 +0000

@31 thanks for setting the record straighter on this. I’d still maintain that the kid was scared sh1tless and sold out. Whether or not this was to avoid a lawsuit is a moot point IMHO (though the well-substantiated claim that Nilson was only named by the MAFIAA on the basis of whois data lends credence to the idea that it was indeed a sellout. It’s not that difficult to cry blackmail after the event). The moral re domain control remains.

iMesh are owned by a highly-secretive Israeli company. However they do have a NY, NY forwarding address that any good whois junkie could find if they wanted (I shall refrain from posting it in case TF censor me again, like with oinky’s holiday snaps, in which he looked FAT).

Fun times.

By: Steve from Yellowstone

Steve from Yellowstone — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:52:23 +0000

Discordia Ltd = Brown note.
Ramone! Enema bag these douches!

By: SkinVista (shareaza developer)

SkinVista (shareaza developer) — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:40:40 +0000

To clarify a little: Existing Shareaza 2.X codebase -and the Shareaza name- will continue to be developed in some form for many years to come, regardless of the US legal outcome.

‘Panthera’ is an entirely new software inspired by the Shareaza wishlist, and is only one of several new projects being created by the Shareaza Community, not necessarily the Devs.

Suffice to say while contingencies are in place and nothing is going down without a fight, there is a wealth of proliferation happening quietly- Panthera is just the first to announce itself.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:29:12 +0000

I think zab is available for coding on Shareaza or Panthera, too. That is for 1000$/h… but he’s worth it!

By: zab

zab — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:38:50 +0000

Shareaza sucks, has sucked and will continue to suck. You can name it panthera or pussycat if you wish, it won’t change.

By: oneplusone

oneplusone — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:59:57 +0000

I for one, would like to see a book written about this theft of Shareaza debacle. A whole book. It’s just so bizarre, the back story. I was in utter amazement at the weirdness of how (and why) this all happened. Good on the Panthera team for starting over.

By: rtechie

rtechie — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:58:30 +0000

to ryo-oh-ki:

So I’m confused.

If Project Panthera is the REPLACEMENT for open-source Shareaza, why are you still developing for the 2.3.x line?

If if you’re continuing development of the 2.3.x line, why haven’t you switched project names yet?

You’ve lost the name Shareaza. It’s over. Time to move on. This happens all the time (Ethereal to Wireshark) and it just seems petulant to stick with the name “Shareaza”, when you KNOW it’s causing confusion.

The Limewire people immediately changed their project name to Frostwire, and that didn’t seem to create lots of problems.

By: Hellscream

Hellscream — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:28:53 +0000

Pixelated is a moron. (guy from the 1st post).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:56:59 +0000

“he hired some Indian programmers (about $20/hour).”

BWAHAHAHA. How long until you exploit little children from third world countries to do you work?

By: Filesharing Kelolon

Filesharing Kelolon — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:34:31 +0000

If it looks like you’re going to lose your rightful trademark to an illegitimate party, change the name and make sure every Shareaza user knows about it. By doing so one hopes that the majority of it’s user base will move to Panthera, thus resulting in the Shareaza name becoming completely worthless. This is an intelligent move, and is smarter than trying to fight what would likely become a costly legal battle. Plan for the worst and hope for the best I always say.

In the beginning I used Napster. After that came Kazaa, followed closely by Shareaza and finally Bittorrent, the only P2P protocol I use at the moment. Shareaza was a good program during it’s reign. I never had any issues with it, at least until something better came along. Hopefully Panthera will become a worthy successor.

By: mark

mark — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:46:45 +0000

so no steps towards anonymity?

I’d have thought this would have been top of the priority list, not having a revamped media player… ho hum!

By: Johnny Five

Johnny Five — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:43:51 +0000

Shareeza ROCKS, especially since Morpheus quit working. Lime Wire is a close second I think.

JF
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