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		<title>By: Rational Mind</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-521541</link>
		<dc:creator>Rational Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No reasoned mined you are not underwriting anything, be intelligent please. There is a huge amount of dark fiber in the world, unused network capacity that was laid before the dot com bubble burst, was paid for by venture capital gamblers and is already paid and waiting. The current owners who acquired it on the cheap are pretending there are capacity issues so they can gradually turn the dark fibre on and exploit end users for excess profit. Banwidth is a very CHEAP commodity, there is only the cost of the cables which is the same for both you and I, the difference is the cost of electricity. And bandwidth uses very little electricity. It is a scam to confuse people like you that they have a valid reason to keep sitting on excess capacity and charge more to P2P users. 
 
Sure, most of my network usage comes from P2P and I am only a casual user of P2P. These numbers seem plausable on network usage amounts. But, I for one would not have an internet connection at home if it was not for P2P. So don&#039;t act like I haven&#039;t already paid for my service please. 
 
And as for tiered service, you have bought the corporate partyline con hook line and sinker. Tiered service is what they do when they have different connection speeds, if they advertise an unlimited 10mbit line, the end user should be able to utilize that as much as they want - it&#039;s the service they paid for. Hidden &quot;fair usage policies&quot; could probably be proven illegal if someone wanted to invest enough money into it. It&#039;s like saying &quot;Unlimited gasoline!&quot; and then denying the service to long distance commuters via a fair use policy after they already paid for it. 
 
Final note, &quot;net neutrality&quot; AKA &quot;common carrier&quot; by a different name. This is already enshrined in law for good reasons with &quot;common carrier&quot; regulations. ISPs say google eats all their bandwidth without paying for it, but this is such an outrageous misdirection it&#039;s unbelievable. When you rent YOUR connection from YOUR ISP you pay for the connection because you like services from... google. Without google (and other free service providers), the internet would be a steaming pile of geek turd and undigested advertising without any practical use whatsoever. So not only are they trying to charge twice now for the same thing, they are effectively saying that your money doesn&#039;t buy you the right to access anything. Unbelievable it has even got this far. The unfortunate truth is top level policy makers are probably far better at getting themselves into top positions than making decisions and they may well allow the internet to fracture. Campaign for net neutrality and save the internet from becoming ad-shit. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No reasoned mined you are not underwriting anything, be intelligent please. There is a huge amount of dark fiber in the world, unused network capacity that was laid before the dot com bubble burst, was paid for by venture capital gamblers and is already paid and waiting. The current owners who acquired it on the cheap are pretending there are capacity issues so they can gradually turn the dark fibre on and exploit end users for excess profit. Banwidth is a very CHEAP commodity, there is only the cost of the cables which is the same for both you and I, the difference is the cost of electricity. And bandwidth uses very little electricity. It is a scam to confuse people like you that they have a valid reason to keep sitting on excess capacity and charge more to P2P users. </p>
<p>Sure, most of my network usage comes from P2P and I am only a casual user of P2P. These numbers seem plausable on network usage amounts. But, I for one would not have an internet connection at home if it was not for P2P. So don&#039;t act like I haven&#039;t already paid for my service please. </p>
<p>And as for tiered service, you have bought the corporate partyline con hook line and sinker. Tiered service is what they do when they have different connection speeds, if they advertise an unlimited 10mbit line, the end user should be able to utilize that as much as they want &#8211; it&#039;s the service they paid for. Hidden &quot;fair usage policies&quot; could probably be proven illegal if someone wanted to invest enough money into it. It&#039;s like saying &quot;Unlimited gasoline!&quot; and then denying the service to long distance commuters via a fair use policy after they already paid for it. </p>
<p>Final note, &quot;net neutrality&quot; AKA &quot;common carrier&quot; by a different name. This is already enshrined in law for good reasons with &quot;common carrier&quot; regulations. ISPs say google eats all their bandwidth without paying for it, but this is such an outrageous misdirection it&#039;s unbelievable. When you rent YOUR connection from YOUR ISP you pay for the connection because you like services from&#8230; google. Without google (and other free service providers), the internet would be a steaming pile of geek turd and undigested advertising without any practical use whatsoever. So not only are they trying to charge twice now for the same thing, they are effectively saying that your money doesn&#039;t buy you the right to access anything. Unbelievable it has even got this far. The unfortunate truth is top level policy makers are probably far better at getting themselves into top positions than making decisions and they may well allow the internet to fracture. Campaign for net neutrality and save the internet from becoming ad-shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cifras: Octubre 08 &#124; El tecnóloco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cifras: Octubre 08 &#124; El tecnóloco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 61% del ancho de banda de la red es utilizado actualmente solamente por redes P2P  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: raidz</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-509715</link>
		<dc:creator>raidz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this isn&#039;t too shock to me.

http://www.raidz.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isn&#8217;t too shock to me.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.raidz.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.raidz.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: ‘Shocking’ 61% of all Upstream Internet Traffic is P2P &#171; World News</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-509566</link>
		<dc:creator>‘Shocking’ 61% of all Upstream Internet Traffic is P2P &#171; World News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ERWIN</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-508484</link>
		<dc:creator>ERWIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV STREAMS TAKE&#039;S MUCH MORE THAN P2P!!!!
THE MARKET DON&#039;T LIKE P2P THAT IS THE 
PROBLEM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV STREAMS TAKE&#8217;S MUCH MORE THAN P2P!!!!<br />
THE MARKET DON&#8217;T LIKE P2P THAT IS THE<br />
PROBLEM</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-508341</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Jackson was really, really popular...therefore they had to stop him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Jackson was really, really popular&#8230;therefore they had to stop him.</p>
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		<title>By: fung0</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-508120</link>
		<dc:creator>fung0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m a bit dense, but aren&#039;t companies like Sandvine (not to mention our ISPs) basically saying: &quot;This type of usage is really, really popular... therefore we must stop it!&quot; I thought that when demand for your product skyrockets, you&#039;re supposed to jack up the price... not close down the factory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m a bit dense, but aren&#8217;t companies like Sandvine (not to mention our ISPs) basically saying: &#8220;This type of usage is really, really popular&#8230; therefore we must stop it!&#8221; I thought that when demand for your product skyrockets, you&#8217;re supposed to jack up the price&#8230; not close down the factory.</p>
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		<title>By: Yatti</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507576</link>
		<dc:creator>Yatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers &amp; Bell probably use Sandvine boxes..</description>
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		<title>By: P2P devora largura de banda com uploads &#124; Remixtures</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507518</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P devora largura de banda com uploads &#124; Remixtures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Policeman</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507514</link>
		<dc:creator>Policeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb article.

What is &quot;p2p&quot;? it could mean so many things... dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb article.</p>
<p>What is &#8220;p2p&#8221;? it could mean so many things&#8230; dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: 61% del ancho de banda de subida es usada por el P2P &#124; Tinta Fantasma</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507432</link>
		<dc:creator>61% del ancho de banda de subida es usada por el P2P &#124; Tinta Fantasma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] en TorrentFreak que el 61% del ancho de banda de subida es consumido por el p2p y bueno ya sabemos que la mayor parte son Torrents&#8230;y bueno, un gran [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] en TorrentFreak que el 61% del ancho de banda de subida es consumido por el p2p y bueno ya sabemos que la mayor parte son Torrents&#8230;y bueno, un gran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ‘Shocking’ 61% of all Upstream Internet Traffic is P2P &#171; Software Distribution - OMS SafeHarbor</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507403</link>
		<dc:creator>‘Shocking’ 61% of all Upstream Internet Traffic is P2P &#171; Software Distribution - OMS SafeHarbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Internet Traffic is&#160;P2P  This just hit my RSS Feed. Good timing given our earlier post on P2P ‘Shocking’ 61% of all Upstream Internet Traffic is P2P: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Internet Traffic is&nbsp;P2P  This just hit my RSS Feed. Good timing given our earlier post on P2P ‘Shocking’ 61% of all Upstream Internet Traffic is P2P: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507371</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anyone tell me what software made those graphs? i like em</description>
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		<title>By: joeblog</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507335</link>
		<dc:creator>joeblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this shocking? I think its awesome! :D.

That&#039;s what Highspeed connection are for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this shocking? I think its awesome! :D.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what Highspeed connection are for.</p>
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		<title>By: Asrews</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507329</link>
		<dc:creator>Asrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do love your blog mate

http://geldverdienenonlineleicht.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do love your blog mate</p>
<p><a href="http://geldverdienenonlineleicht.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://geldverdienenonlineleicht.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: More BULLSHIT</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507320</link>
		<dc:creator>More BULLSHIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok also whats odd is take bittorrent the maximum it can be is a ratio of 50% to 50% or as they say 1 to 1
so it owuld be impossible to have 60% up and 20% down.
Unless there are suddenly aobut what
3 to 1 paying vips or paying donators that get extra dl form private site.
As millions more use open site shten private this statistic can then there fore be 110% disproven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok also whats odd is take bittorrent the maximum it can be is a ratio of 50% to 50% or as they say 1 to 1<br />
so it owuld be impossible to have 60% up and 20% down.<br />
Unless there are suddenly aobut what<br />
3 to 1 paying vips or paying donators that get extra dl form private site.<br />
As millions more use open site shten private this statistic can then there fore be 110% disproven.</p>
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		<title>By: screw sandvine</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507317</link>
		<dc:creator>screw sandvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BULLSHIT
you cap people in canada between 4pm and 2am 
so what then is all the traffic that is unshaped and dont tell me its p2p cause no one dls at 25Kbytes

oh and of course they get stats like that , what business are they in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BULLSHIT<br />
you cap people in canada between 4pm and 2am<br />
so what then is all the traffic that is unshaped and dont tell me its p2p cause no one dls at 25Kbytes</p>
<p>oh and of course they get stats like that , what business are they in?</p>
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		<title>By: Uraphake</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/shocking-61-of-all-upstream-internet-traffic-is-p2p-081021/#comment-507310</link>
		<dc:creator>Uraphake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#32

You might be interested to know that, Brokep of The Pirate Bay told TorrentFreak: “We have more seeders than leechers now.&quot;
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-smashes-12000000-bittorrent-users-080424/

Now, what was your elitist point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#32</p>
<p>You might be interested to know that, Brokep of The Pirate Bay told TorrentFreak: “We have more seeders than leechers now.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-smashes-12000000-bittorrent-users-080424/" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-smashes-12000000-bittorrent-users-080424/</a></p>
<p>Now, what was your elitist point?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dont get your point...

My reference about the seedboxes is not to say they&#039;re not great things to have.  The point was that unless you have it hooked into the tracker directly via a lan port (which would in itself be useless since they don&#039;t transfer directly, by the way do you suppose the data going from your box to the peers might be passing through a traditional isp?), or you&#039;ve managed to find the secret way to transfer data with no wires or wireless contact (ie: magic fairies carry your data away in packets for deposit at your local leech) then your data is at some point going to pass through someone&#039;s link, even if that means directly on a backbone line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dont get your point&#8230;</p>
<p>My reference about the seedboxes is not to say they&#8217;re not great things to have.  The point was that unless you have it hooked into the tracker directly via a lan port (which would in itself be useless since they don&#8217;t transfer directly, by the way do you suppose the data going from your box to the peers might be passing through a traditional isp?), or you&#8217;ve managed to find the secret way to transfer data with no wires or wireless contact (ie: magic fairies carry your data away in packets for deposit at your local leech) then your data is at some point going to pass through someone&#8217;s link, even if that means directly on a backbone line.</p>
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		<title>By: El 61% del ancho de banda de la red es utilizado por redes P2P : mundotapatio.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>El 61% del ancho de banda de la red es utilizado por redes P2P : mundotapatio.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TorrentFreak nos enteramos que el 61% del ancho de banda de la red es utilizado actualmente solamente por redes P2P y, sobre todo, por [...]</description>
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