Sure, most of my network usage comes from P2P and I am only a casual user of P2P. These numbers seem plausable on network usage amounts. But, I for one would not have an internet connection at home if it was not for P2P. So don't act like I haven't already paid for my service please.

And as for tiered service, you have bought the corporate partyline con hook line and sinker. Tiered service is what they do when they have different connection speeds, if they advertise an unlimited 10mbit line, the end user should be able to utilize that as much as they want – it's the service they paid for. Hidden "fair usage policies" could probably be proven illegal if someone wanted to invest enough money into it. It's like saying "Unlimited gasoline!" and then denying the service to long distance commuters via a fair use policy after they already paid for it.

Final note, "net neutrality" AKA "common carrier" by a different name. This is already enshrined in law for good reasons with "common carrier" regulations. ISPs say google eats all their bandwidth without paying for it, but this is such an outrageous misdirection it's unbelievable. When you rent YOUR connection from YOUR ISP you pay for the connection because you like services from… google. Without google (and other free service providers), the internet would be a steaming pile of geek turd and undigested advertising without any practical use whatsoever. So not only are they trying to charge twice now for the same thing, they are effectively saying that your money doesn't buy you the right to access anything. Unbelievable it has even got this far. The unfortunate truth is top level policy makers are probably far better at getting themselves into top positions than making decisions and they may well allow the internet to fracture. Campaign for net neutrality and save the internet from becoming ad-shit.

http://www.raidz.net

What is “p2p”? it could mean so many things… dumb.

That’s what Highspeed connection are for.

http://geldverdienenonlineleicht.blogspot.com/

oh and of course they get stats like that , what business are they in?

You might be interested to know that, Brokep of The Pirate Bay told TorrentFreak: “We have more seeders than leechers now.”
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-smashes-12000000-bittorrent-users-080424/

Now, what was your elitist point?

My reference about the seedboxes is not to say they’re not great things to have. The point was that unless you have it hooked into the tracker directly via a lan port (which would in itself be useless since they don’t transfer directly, by the way do you suppose the data going from your box to the peers might be passing through a traditional isp?), or you’ve managed to find the secret way to transfer data with no wires or wireless contact (ie: magic fairies carry your data away in packets for deposit at your local leech) then your data is at some point going to pass through someone’s link, even if that means directly on a backbone line.

I’m gonna keep posting this link because this forum is too particular and specific. Many of the readers and posters on this forum could benefit from recognizing that p2p IS the model for the new economy. And they need to know that if we give up in our fight for net neutrality, for our whole world’s freedom, we can only expect things to get worse. For every last person on this planet…

Here’s the link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

and also these stats maybe percentage based.. But, i’m sure without a shadow of doubt they are still doctored … some peeps have mentioned the use of seedboxes and such.. it is true that you could upload more than you grab .. but, the fact of them being able to even guesstimate a percentage from limited info they have is laughable.. they would have to search for hosts all over the world to compile such a list, which i can bet they didn’t, hell i bet they didn’t even go no further than to check better know isps.. so, this info is totaly bogus imo.. and should be toosed with the rest of the trash!

It’s easy to call people stupid hiddin behind your computer…. By the way, Sid the kid is an hockey player…

Anyway, I stick to my point, if ISP would charge their consumer for what they used and encourage people to use more bandwich, they would make more monney. That’s exactly the way other enterprise like Kraft do. They give recipe with their cheese to let people use more of their cheese. The only problem I see is the infrastructure, more incomes means more investing. If you got to borrow, do it. I think it’s a good bet.

I thing all of us are addicted to Internet. We’re like alcoholic, we can buy beer at one store or another, but at the end of the day, we absolutely need our beer…

I admit I’m not an insider in the ISP industry but I know a bit about business in general. Got a degree in business administration afterall…

Sandvine, best known for manufacturing the hardware that slowed down BitTorrent users on Comcast, has released an Internet traffic trends report today. The report shows that, on average, P2P traffic is responsible for more than half of the upstream tra…

Jiff
http://www.internet-privacy.pl.tc

Some scene releases are terrible! Just like some P2P releases are… But public trackers have *both* scene and P2P releases.

Or should I say… “sum scn rls r trble”. There.

Un informe ha estudiado el uso de internet y dice que un 61% del tráfico de subida en Internet es debido a diferentes programas P2P. En cuanto a la bajada el tráfico de P2P solo supondría un 21% del tráfico total….

Upstream for one person is downstream for another. From the point of traffic on the internet, upstream and downstream p2p must be the same.

Content that gets put on there comes direct from an FTP topsite or from another seedbox. Occasionally content doesn’t but most private sites require a fast upload speed for uploading content to the swarm which can only be provided by a seedbox. It still avoid an ISP for much of it’s life (and transfer history -IE uploads).

@26 : Screw yourself and keep downlaoding shitty content at pathetic speeds, I could care less. You’re the moron whose calling me elitist when I’m spending my money to make other people’s downloads blazingly fast and actually sharing more than I download to make others have their connections maxed out by downloads. I’ll bet you don’t do upload as much as you download even – IE. you playing with the rest of the clueless noobies who have a shitty experience.

And yes dude: ANY private tracker is better than the rest in terms of speed – find a big one and the content will be better also. Public trackers are slow for a reason: the vast majority of home internet connections have upload speed that is 7-10x slower than download speed. Add to that the fact that no ratio enforcement means (the majority of?) people don’t seed back 1:1 and one can see why the average user gets, as a maximum, a download speed that is as fast as they’re upload… again – as a maximum.

These are reasons why public trackers are shitty and slow. Never mind malware such as PPI, fake files and lack of quality compared to a SCENE TRACKER – the scene ensures a mediocum of quality so amatuers can’t get their shitty mp3′s up with missing ID3, crappy encodes of video – and the rest.

You seem frankly jealous of me. You should stop feeling so fucking clueless and impotent and spewing crap at me and take advantage of my speeds – decent private trackers are very easy to find and get into: try BitSoup for a start.

You obviously have no idea what Fascism means. You bought up dick-size – I bet you get no play from the schoolgirls you hang around with. My 1500% ratio (or higher mate) proves that I share my assets to make others experience better – something which I know you don’t do.