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		<title>By: Duane Lowery</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/showinsider-ranks-pirated-tv-shows-081104/#comment-512248</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Lowery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: good point</title>
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		<dc:creator>good point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can I record the shows on a VCR or DVR and it’s perfectly legal, but if I download shows off the internet, suddenly it’s a crime?

ANY broadcast can be recorded.
sharing it over the net. by p2p means. Is only new tech

Don&#039;t shun new tech or it won&#039;t grow &amp; and become helpful in every day life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can I record the shows on a VCR or DVR and it’s perfectly legal, but if I download shows off the internet, suddenly it’s a crime?</p>
<p>ANY broadcast can be recorded.<br />
sharing it over the net. by p2p means. Is only new tech</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shun new tech or it won&#8217;t grow &amp; and become helpful in every day life.</p>
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		<title>By: h33t</title>
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		<dc:creator>h33t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>piracy is theft

piracy is the illegal manufacture and sale of conterfeit products. piracy is stealing revenue which belongs to the copyright holder, piracy is stealing

filesharing is copying, filesharing is not piracy

http://www.h33t.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>piracy is theft</p>
<p>piracy is the illegal manufacture and sale of conterfeit products. piracy is stealing revenue which belongs to the copyright holder, piracy is stealing</p>
<p>filesharing is copying, filesharing is not piracy</p>
<p><a href="http://www.h33t.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.h33t.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rekrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rekrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10

&quot;did none of your parents teach you not to take things that aren’t yours?&quot;

This article is about downloading TV shows. TV, in case you hadn&#039;t heard, is broadcast for people to watch for free in most countries. In others, people have already paid for the content via a &quot;TV License&quot;. How can downloading TV shows be considered taking what isn&#039;t yours when anyone can watch the shows on a TV?

Why can I record the shows on a VCR or DVR and it&#039;s perfectly legal, but if I download shows off the internet, suddenly it&#039;s a crime?

#16

&quot;No. Not quite. The copyright lobby’s RESPONSE to your theft is what’s turning the world into 1984.

I hate it how you pirates yank on the dragons tail then act all surprised and self righteous when it retaliates.

Cause and effect, moron. You are the cause. They are the effect.&quot;

So what was the cause that made them try to get the VCR banned? Or that made them put region codes on DVDs to keep people from playing DVDs that were LEGALLY purchased in other countries? Or that made them include HDCP in the HDMI standard so that anyone with older HD TVs can&#039;t benefit from HD content today?

The content industry has a long history of trying to control and suppress every new technology that they don&#039;t agree with.

As for the article; It&#039;s too bad there&#039;s no way to count Usenet downloads in the total. I download all my TV shows from the newsgroups.</description>
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<p>&#8220;did none of your parents teach you not to take things that aren’t yours?&#8221;</p>
<p>This article is about downloading TV shows. TV, in case you hadn&#8217;t heard, is broadcast for people to watch for free in most countries. In others, people have already paid for the content via a &#8220;TV License&#8221;. How can downloading TV shows be considered taking what isn&#8217;t yours when anyone can watch the shows on a TV?</p>
<p>Why can I record the shows on a VCR or DVR and it&#8217;s perfectly legal, but if I download shows off the internet, suddenly it&#8217;s a crime?</p>
<p>#16</p>
<p>&#8220;No. Not quite. The copyright lobby’s RESPONSE to your theft is what’s turning the world into 1984.</p>
<p>I hate it how you pirates yank on the dragons tail then act all surprised and self righteous when it retaliates.</p>
<p>Cause and effect, moron. You are the cause. They are the effect.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what was the cause that made them try to get the VCR banned? Or that made them put region codes on DVDs to keep people from playing DVDs that were LEGALLY purchased in other countries? Or that made them include HDCP in the HDMI standard so that anyone with older HD TVs can&#8217;t benefit from HD content today?</p>
<p>The content industry has a long history of trying to control and suppress every new technology that they don&#8217;t agree with.</p>
<p>As for the article; It&#8217;s too bad there&#8217;s no way to count Usenet downloads in the total. I download all my TV shows from the newsgroups.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/showinsider-ranks-pirated-tv-shows-081104/#comment-510419</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Give it up you communist retard.&quot;

Give it up?

Sorry, but we already have a copyright-free culture. 

The lobbyists and politicians just haven&#039;t cought up yet.
And apparently neither have you. Say, do your Mommy and Daddy know you&#039;re using the internet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Give it up you communist retard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Give it up?</p>
<p>Sorry, but we already have a copyright-free culture. </p>
<p>The lobbyists and politicians just haven&#8217;t cought up yet.<br />
And apparently neither have you. Say, do your Mommy and Daddy know you&#8217;re using the internet?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@25 Roze: &quot;Well, to complete my thought: such a copyright-free culture should be free to do its own thing, since it will be the individual rather than the industry that is creating it. There shall be no “standard” imposed on such subjective matters, but each person doing their own thing.&quot;

We already have an example of this: internet + free web hosting.  God know this has bought us SO MANY GREAT WEBSITES made by RANDOM PEOPLE.

Not.

Give it up you communist retard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@25 Roze: &#8220;Well, to complete my thought: such a copyright-free culture should be free to do its own thing, since it will be the individual rather than the industry that is creating it. There shall be no “standard” imposed on such subjective matters, but each person doing their own thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>We already have an example of this: internet + free web hosting.  God know this has bought us SO MANY GREAT WEBSITES made by RANDOM PEOPLE.</p>
<p>Not.</p>
<p>Give it up you communist retard.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I hate it how you pirates yank on the dragons tail then act all surprised and self righteous when it retaliates.&quot;

AHAHAHAHA!!

You&#039;re comparing the copyright lobby to some kind of fearful dragon? Dear, are you unaware of their long track record of astonishing failure in their inherently futile &quot;war&quot; against filesharing?

Yanking on a dragon&#039;s tail. That just makes me chuckle, &#039;cause it&#039;s more like punting a crippled chihuahua.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hate it how you pirates yank on the dragons tail then act all surprised and self righteous when it retaliates.&#8221;</p>
<p>AHAHAHAHA!!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re comparing the copyright lobby to some kind of fearful dragon? Dear, are you unaware of their long track record of astonishing failure in their inherently futile &#8220;war&#8221; against filesharing?</p>
<p>Yanking on a dragon&#8217;s tail. That just makes me chuckle, &#8217;cause it&#8217;s more like punting a crippled chihuahua.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1
Theif: Steals orginal
Pirate: Makes copy of orginal

So piracy isnt stealing, its piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1<br />
Theif: Steals orginal<br />
Pirate: Makes copy of orginal</p>
<p>So piracy isnt stealing, its piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper van Weerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper van Weerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tool, see that spooks is high-up in the trending up chart, like that! just saw E3-4 online, pre released I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tool, see that spooks is high-up in the trending up chart, like that! just saw E3-4 online, pre released I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: www.eZee.se</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.eZee.se</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its &quot;The copyright lobby’s RESPONSE&quot;

You make it sound like they were sitting on their hands all this time and just kicked in after downloading started. 
Nice joke, talk to letterman about having you on the show.

As for the whole dumb downloading is stealing:

http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/03/20/downloading-is-stealing/

and

http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/03/23/download-if-you-love-your-mom-and-increase-her-love-for-you-plus-its-good-for-the-environment/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its &#8220;The copyright lobby’s RESPONSE&#8221;</p>
<p>You make it sound like they were sitting on their hands all this time and just kicked in after downloading started.<br />
Nice joke, talk to letterman about having you on the show.</p>
<p>As for the whole dumb downloading is stealing:</p>
<p><a href="http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/03/20/downloading-is-stealing/" rel="nofollow">http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/03/20/downloading-is-stealing/</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/03/23/download-if-you-love-your-mom-and-increase-her-love-for-you-plus-its-good-for-the-environment/" rel="nofollow">http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/03/23/download-if-you-love-your-mom-and-increase-her-love-for-you-plus-its-good-for-the-environment/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23
Well, to complete my thought: such a copyright-free culture should be free to do its own thing, since it will be the individual rather than the industry that is creating it. There shall be no &quot;standard&quot; imposed on such subjective matters, but each person doing their own thing.

Indeed, free information shall enhance culture - I think that the most important positive effect is the blurring of the line between audience and creator, so that anyone can just jump in and &quot;be a part of the community of a part of culture&quot; or something like that. Thus, it is the democratization of culture itself - not by the people merely just choosing what is good or bad, but the people creating it themselves.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23<br />
Well, to complete my thought: such a copyright-free culture should be free to do its own thing, since it will be the individual rather than the industry that is creating it. There shall be no &#8220;standard&#8221; imposed on such subjective matters, but each person doing their own thing.</p>
<p>Indeed, free information shall enhance culture &#8211; I think that the most important positive effect is the blurring of the line between audience and creator, so that anyone can just jump in and &#8220;be a part of the community of a part of culture&#8221; or something like that. Thus, it is the democratization of culture itself &#8211; not by the people merely just choosing what is good or bad, but the people creating it themselves.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23
There is bound to be a plentitude of culture once it is copyright-free. For it to be copyright-free is essentially the de-institutionalization of culture. I do not think that there needs to be any &quot;standard&quot; - people just do what they want in what they create. Not an institutionalized culture, but just people doing their own thing. In the long run, letting culture be free, so that people can create whatever derivative works they want, is what shall enhance culture.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23<br />
There is bound to be a plentitude of culture once it is copyright-free. For it to be copyright-free is essentially the de-institutionalization of culture. I do not think that there needs to be any &#8220;standard&#8221; &#8211; people just do what they want in what they create. Not an institutionalized culture, but just people doing their own thing. In the long run, letting culture be free, so that people can create whatever derivative works they want, is what shall enhance culture.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@roze
not sure if that&#039;s what I want to set as the standard for a new copyright free culure, but damn, that was a hard game.
I think we can do much better. I think in the long run, free information will enhance culture, not harm it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@roze<br />
not sure if that&#8217;s what I want to set as the standard for a new copyright free culure, but damn, that was a hard game.<br />
I think we can do much better. I think in the long run, free information will enhance culture, not harm it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21
How does it sound institutionalized? A community-based culture is the perfect example of an insurgent culture, which can take place when copyright is gone. People would be allowed to make money, but I think that in such a culture, people would choose not to.

Need I give you an example? Here is an example of a &quot;derivative work&quot; made by a random individual:
http://www.geocities.jp/i26k4i3/istspring/no17.html

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21<br />
How does it sound institutionalized? A community-based culture is the perfect example of an insurgent culture, which can take place when copyright is gone. People would be allowed to make money, but I think that in such a culture, people would choose not to.</p>
<p>Need I give you an example? Here is an example of a &#8220;derivative work&#8221; made by a random individual:<br />
<a href="http://www.geocities.jp/i26k4i3/istspring/no17.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.jp/i26k4i3/istspring/no17.html</a></p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roze
not sure what that means exactly, but I just think that culture should be allowed to take it&#039;s own course, and that information should be free. What you suggest sounds to me like it should somehow be institutionalized or that it should not be allowed to make money from it. If this is the case, then no I don&#039;t think the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roze<br />
not sure what that means exactly, but I just think that culture should be allowed to take it&#8217;s own course, and that information should be free. What you suggest sounds to me like it should somehow be institutionalized or that it should not be allowed to make money from it. If this is the case, then no I don&#8217;t think the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19 and everyone else
In my opinion, the current culture needs to be replaced by a noncommercial community-based derivative works culture, don&#039;t you think the same as well?

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19 and everyone else<br />
In my opinion, the current culture needs to be replaced by a noncommercial community-based derivative works culture, don&#8217;t you think the same as well?</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16

preventing piracy is not an acceptable excuse for introducing universial survailence and can thus not be blamed on pirates. If you accept it as an excuse it is you who are to blame for allowing it.

The times, are changing. information no longer can, nor should be, controlled, so you&#039;d better start swimming or you&#039;ll sink like a stone.

You will notice that it is not the artist that are fighting piracy, many of them openly embrace it. It is the businessmen that fight it because piracy has made their method of distribution obslete. It&#039;s like abacus makers trying to outlaw computers because they are losing profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16</p>
<p>preventing piracy is not an acceptable excuse for introducing universial survailence and can thus not be blamed on pirates. If you accept it as an excuse it is you who are to blame for allowing it.</p>
<p>The times, are changing. information no longer can, nor should be, controlled, so you&#8217;d better start swimming or you&#8217;ll sink like a stone.</p>
<p>You will notice that it is not the artist that are fighting piracy, many of them openly embrace it. It is the businessmen that fight it because piracy has made their method of distribution obslete. It&#8217;s like abacus makers trying to outlaw computers because they are losing profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Roze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16
That&#039;s right. &quot;The copyright lobby’s RESPONSE.&quot; Ultimately they are the ones turning the internet into 1984. The copyright lobby&#039;s response is the cause. 1984 is the effect. If they never responded, then it would not be 1984. Cause and effect, moron.

Roze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16<br />
That&#8217;s right. &#8220;The copyright lobby’s RESPONSE.&#8221; Ultimately they are the ones turning the internet into 1984. The copyright lobby&#8217;s response is the cause. 1984 is the effect. If they never responded, then it would not be 1984. Cause and effect, moron.</p>
<p>Roze</p>
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		<title>By: iptorrents/torrentleech</title>
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		<dc:creator>iptorrents/torrentleech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how can you say piracy is theft, sure we download the stuff but where not taking it from anyone.

Remember:

Piracy is not theft, it just making a copy of the original and its environmentally friendly!!!

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/TwoPerfect/funny/6akm2kh.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can you say piracy is theft, sure we download the stuff but where not taking it from anyone.</p>
<p>Remember:</p>
<p>Piracy is not theft, it just making a copy of the original and its environmentally friendly!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#13

No. Not quite. The copyright lobby&#039;s RESPONSE to your theft is what&#039;s turning the world into 1984.

I hate it how you pirates yank on the dragons tail then act all surprised and self righteous when it retaliates. 

Cause and effect, moron. You are the cause. They are the effect.</description>
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<p>No. Not quite. The copyright lobby&#8217;s RESPONSE to your theft is what&#8217;s turning the world into 1984.</p>
<p>I hate it how you pirates yank on the dragons tail then act all surprised and self righteous when it retaliates. </p>
<p>Cause and effect, moron. You are the cause. They are the effect.</p>
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