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	<title>Comments on: Six Android Piracy Group Members Charged, Two Arrested</title>
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		<title>By: AotA 131: Sensing Your Load &#124; Attack of the Androids</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AotA 131: Sensing Your Load &#124; Attack of the Androids]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] or AppBucket to download your pirated apps then you’re out of luck now.  A bunch of folks got nabbed by the PoPo for having some awesome Gingerbread-themed app stores that hosted pirated Android apps. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] or AppBucket to download your pirated apps then you’re out of luck now.  A bunch of folks got nabbed by the PoPo for having some awesome Gingerbread-themed app stores that hosted pirated Android apps. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: SuperMario7</title>
		<link>/six-android-piracy-group-members-charged-two-arrested-140722/#comment-1226724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SuperMario7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google give out refunds even months down the line, I bought a game from Google Play last November, never played it at all and then last month I thought I&#039;d try and install it but found it wouldn&#039;t work.. one email to Google and I got an immediate refund. It&#039;s not advertised but if you ask for a refund you get one without any questions, there&#039;s no harm in trying with a short email]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google give out refunds even months down the line, I bought a game from Google Play last November, never played it at all and then last month I thought I&#8217;d try and install it but found it wouldn&#8217;t work.. one email to Google and I got an immediate refund. It&#8217;s not advertised but if you ask for a refund you get one without any questions, there&#8217;s no harm in trying with a short email</p>
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		<title>By: Fields</title>
		<link>/six-android-piracy-group-members-charged-two-arrested-140722/#comment-1226725</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fields]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew someone would raise the law as an argument...

The law is wrong, as are the makers of it. «Criminal Copyright Infringement» is as flawed as filing «file sharing» under «criminal act».

Killing someone is a crime.

Sharing is not.

The law has been settled to criminalize file sharing under the term «copyright infringement». Using that as an argument is flawed from the ground up.

And as for «profiting from the work of others», I leave you with the question: should one pay the manufacturer of his screwdriver/hammer/lawnmower each time they&#039;re used to make something useful to others?

Wrong analogy? But the copyright infringement law that you raised is all based on that very same, wrong analogy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew someone would raise the law as an argument&#8230;</p>
<p>The law is wrong, as are the makers of it. «Criminal Copyright Infringement» is as flawed as filing «file sharing» under «criminal act».</p>
<p>Killing someone is a crime.</p>
<p>Sharing is not.</p>
<p>The law has been settled to criminalize file sharing under the term «copyright infringement». Using that as an argument is flawed from the ground up.</p>
<p>And as for «profiting from the work of others», I leave you with the question: should one pay the manufacturer of his screwdriver/hammer/lawnmower each time they&#8217;re used to make something useful to others?</p>
<p>Wrong analogy? But the copyright infringement law that you raised is all based on that very same, wrong analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Paradis</title>
		<link>/six-android-piracy-group-members-charged-two-arrested-140722/#comment-1226699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Paradis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s nothing wrong with that expression. When you start profiting from copyright infringement, it becomes a criminal matter. Please reference &quot;17 U.S. Code § 506 - Criminal offenses&quot; for further details.

I happen to license most of the software I write under BSD-style licenses, but I fully support the rights of others to license their works as they see fit. I am also greatly in favor of both civil and criminal penalties for illegally profiting from the works of others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that expression. When you start profiting from copyright infringement, it becomes a criminal matter. Please reference &#8220;17 U.S. Code § 506 &#8211; Criminal offenses&#8221; for further details.</p>
<p>I happen to license most of the software I write under BSD-style licenses, but I fully support the rights of others to license their works as they see fit. I am also greatly in favor of both civil and criminal penalties for illegally profiting from the works of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Kronguard</title>
		<link>/six-android-piracy-group-members-charged-two-arrested-140722/#comment-1226018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kronguard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the people.by the people.
I think that in a perfect world all the attention would be swayed toward public sector,or at least the hard majority of it.
The consumer base is what keeps everything afloat,including private sector.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the people.by the people.<br />
I think that in a perfect world all the attention would be swayed toward public sector,or at least the hard majority of it.<br />
The consumer base is what keeps everything afloat,including private sector.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatsh</title>
		<link>/six-android-piracy-group-members-charged-two-arrested-140722/#comment-1225980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you just saying the focus should be primarily on public interest? I will agree on that point. 


I would not be surprised if there is some information we are generally not privy to (for somewhat obvious reasons) that would basically tell us that the FBI and other organisations are in general 50/50 or better in favour of public interest vs private interests. Regardless, crimes reported have to treated in a somewhat fair process regardless of who they involve. This is beneficial because it means Joe Richbanker is not supposed to get preferential treatment over Joe Shmoe. Whether or not this actually happens is probably debatable and should continually be investigated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you just saying the focus should be primarily on public interest? I will agree on that point. </p>
<p>I would not be surprised if there is some information we are generally not privy to (for somewhat obvious reasons) that would basically tell us that the FBI and other organisations are in general 50/50 or better in favour of public interest vs private interests. Regardless, crimes reported have to treated in a somewhat fair process regardless of who they involve. This is beneficial because it means Joe Richbanker is not supposed to get preferential treatment over Joe Shmoe. Whether or not this actually happens is probably debatable and should continually be investigated.</p>
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		<title>By: Kronguard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kronguard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You missed my point :( I never implied that it does not affect private sector,not only it does,but it&#039;s mainly aimed at private sector,in fact if not for private sector,movie and music industry as a whole would cease to exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed my point :( I never implied that it does not affect private sector,not only it does,but it&#8217;s mainly aimed at private sector,in fact if not for private sector,movie and music industry as a whole would cease to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[co copilot nav system app and think bsplayer was over $20 and then nav only valid maps for 1 year blah blah.. heaps more could add to list. I hate apps with ongoing licenses.. should be paid once for life]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>co copilot nav system app and think bsplayer was over $20 and then nav only valid maps for 1 year blah blah.. heaps more could add to list. I hate apps with ongoing licenses.. should be paid once for life</p>
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		<title>By: Tatsh</title>
		<link>/six-android-piracy-group-members-charged-two-arrested-140722/#comment-1225928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the iOS side of things we have the exact same stuff happening. As an app developer I kind of hate it. I do accept piracy will happen because I grew up on torrents, Kazaa/Grokster, BearShare, LimeWire/FrostWire, Napster, AudioGalaxy, you name it. Learning to use a keygen to finally register WinZip was a &#039;fulfilling&#039; moment if you can call it that. But now as an adult I see the value in supporting the content creators. I have bought tons of MP3s from BeatPort, Amazon, etc. I have registered apps similar to WinZip (shareware) the proper way (by buying a license rather than getting a keygen). Also what I notice most is I would actually use content I buy rather than hoard content I download. This is kind of why I never help any-one learn to start pirating stuff just because they &#039;heard about it&#039;. Said person should learn about the value of paying the content creators what they ask for, and if not, live without it. It is not like you *need* everything (read: hoarding).


It surprises me that people go to great lengths to keep pirating when the apps only cost a few dollars (the most I&#039;ve paid is $9.99 for an Apple one, $4.99 for a GTA game which is like incredibly reasonable considering the quality of those games). The updates situation is exactly the same on iOS (and makes using pirated software risky as always). When you have a pirated app you cannot update it because the store cannot verify you purchased it (IMO this is fine). So instead you have to wait for a person to dump the latest version of said app. Apple could honestly do a lot of things here to remedy the situation but they figure that piracy is low on iOS in particular because it *requires* jailbreaking and the amount of jailbreakers is insignificant compared to non-jailbreakers. The jailbreaking community as a whole is vehemently opposed to piracy of any kind. Tools like Clutch (which I have contributed to) and AppSync are put forward strictly for reverse engineering purposes and nothing else.


Honestly for right now I cannot think of a mobile app that would cost more than $15 that would be worth it. There is a $1000 law school app in the app store IIRC but that is kind of a normal-looking thing; it is just now digital. Maybe an iPad/tablet game, but right now the platforms are still too limited as a whole to justify charging more than $15. It has to be *extremely* good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the iOS side of things we have the exact same stuff happening. As an app developer I kind of hate it. I do accept piracy will happen because I grew up on torrents, Kazaa/Grokster, BearShare, LimeWire/FrostWire, Napster, AudioGalaxy, you name it. Learning to use a keygen to finally register WinZip was a &#8216;fulfilling&#8217; moment if you can call it that. But now as an adult I see the value in supporting the content creators. I have bought tons of MP3s from BeatPort, Amazon, etc. I have registered apps similar to WinZip (shareware) the proper way (by buying a license rather than getting a keygen). Also what I notice most is I would actually use content I buy rather than hoard content I download. This is kind of why I never help any-one learn to start pirating stuff just because they &#8216;heard about it&#8217;. Said person should learn about the value of paying the content creators what they ask for, and if not, live without it. It is not like you *need* everything (read: hoarding).</p>
<p>It surprises me that people go to great lengths to keep pirating when the apps only cost a few dollars (the most I&#8217;ve paid is $9.99 for an Apple one, $4.99 for a GTA game which is like incredibly reasonable considering the quality of those games). The updates situation is exactly the same on iOS (and makes using pirated software risky as always). When you have a pirated app you cannot update it because the store cannot verify you purchased it (IMO this is fine). So instead you have to wait for a person to dump the latest version of said app. Apple could honestly do a lot of things here to remedy the situation but they figure that piracy is low on iOS in particular because it *requires* jailbreaking and the amount of jailbreakers is insignificant compared to non-jailbreakers. The jailbreaking community as a whole is vehemently opposed to piracy of any kind. Tools like Clutch (which I have contributed to) and AppSync are put forward strictly for reverse engineering purposes and nothing else.</p>
<p>Honestly for right now I cannot think of a mobile app that would cost more than $15 that would be worth it. There is a $1000 law school app in the app store IIRC but that is kind of a normal-looking thing; it is just now digital. Maybe an iPad/tablet game, but right now the platforms are still too limited as a whole to justify charging more than $15. It has to be *extremely* good.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatsh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is true. In particular in CA a lot of areas have had anti-sitting laws/ordinances proposed. I think it might be illegal to beg/sit/sleep on the street/etc in San Francisco now but it is obviously not enforced (not enough resources anyway). Separating the haves and have-nots has been a long-running goal in CA, pretty much everywhere. When people who say they dislike homeless people see how they could get treated should laws like &#039;no sitting&#039; get enforced, I think they will back down from that position.


It is still an open question (with real implications economically speaking) of what to do with said people. They are often mentally ill (this is often brought-on by being homeless and not getting care) and they get into a mindset of &#039;world is against me&#039;. Some outright refuse real help on (food, healthcare albeit limited) on that idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true. In particular in CA a lot of areas have had anti-sitting laws/ordinances proposed. I think it might be illegal to beg/sit/sleep on the street/etc in San Francisco now but it is obviously not enforced (not enough resources anyway). Separating the haves and have-nots has been a long-running goal in CA, pretty much everywhere. When people who say they dislike homeless people see how they could get treated should laws like &#8216;no sitting&#8217; get enforced, I think they will back down from that position.</p>
<p>It is still an open question (with real implications economically speaking) of what to do with said people. They are often mentally ill (this is often brought-on by being homeless and not getting care) and they get into a mindset of &#8216;world is against me&#8217;. Some outright refuse real help on (food, healthcare albeit limited) on that idea.</p>
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