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		<title>By: WD</title>
		<link>/six-strikes-anti-piracy-system-gets-new-evidence-review-130817/#comment-1144248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reality may surprise you, since the do on occasion work with the FBI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reality may surprise you, since the do on occasion work with the FBI.</p>
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		<title>By: diamond</title>
		<link>/six-strikes-anti-piracy-system-gets-new-evidence-review-130817/#comment-1142541</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2013 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt the NSA gives a flying fuck about people torrenting, it&#039;s not their job to enforce copyrights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the NSA gives a flying fuck about people torrenting, it&#8217;s not their job to enforce copyrights.</p>
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		<title>By: diamond</title>
		<link>/six-strikes-anti-piracy-system-gets-new-evidence-review-130817/#comment-1142540</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2013 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve downloaded a bunch of stuff from torrents and have yet to receive a single warning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve downloaded a bunch of stuff from torrents and have yet to receive a single warning.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackmailed</title>
		<link>/six-strikes-anti-piracy-system-gets-new-evidence-review-130817/#comment-1129317</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blackmailed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received a copyright warning for downloading perfectly legal, uncopyrighted work. When I called ISP to complain, they said I had to pay 35 to get the &quot;offense&quot; stricken from our account record.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received a copyright warning for downloading perfectly legal, uncopyrighted work. When I called ISP to complain, they said I had to pay 35 to get the &#8220;offense&#8221; stricken from our account record.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Jones</title>
		<link>/six-strikes-anti-piracy-system-gets-new-evidence-review-130817/#comment-1126748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when &quot;so many&quot; happens to be a single-digit percentage of the whole, you can hardly claim to be speaking for a majority. And yes it is a single digit percentage you&#039;re talking about.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when &#8220;so many&#8221; happens to be a single-digit percentage of the whole, you can hardly claim to be speaking for a majority. And yes it is a single digit percentage you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: kiss-my-sass</title>
		<link>/six-strikes-anti-piracy-system-gets-new-evidence-review-130817/#comment-1125451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiss-my-sass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+1 as well. Independence is an oxymoron to MAFIAA, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 as well. Independence is an oxymoron to MAFIAA, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: joao cesar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joao cesar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I had a private membership in a private film torrent community once. I wasn&#039;t doing much with it but a pal really wanted a spot but I didn&#039;t have any invites, so I just gave him access to share. He was flagged for being from a different IP range.

The only vulnerability you describe is that what.cd was allowing too many simultaneous downloads. 

The three month sting would work if there weren&#039;t too many jurisdictions and private communities and if the masses weren&#039;t doing it in droves. As it is now, authorities will go for the low hanging fruit in publicly available torrents and try not to expose their IPs by not seeding every torrent on the planet, otherwise it&#039;ll make the job of university researchers that track the trackers a lot easier in determining where those IPs are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I had a private membership in a private film torrent community once. I wasn&#8217;t doing much with it but a pal really wanted a spot but I didn&#8217;t have any invites, so I just gave him access to share. He was flagged for being from a different IP range.</p>
<p>The only vulnerability you describe is that what.cd was allowing too many simultaneous downloads. </p>
<p>The three month sting would work if there weren&#8217;t too many jurisdictions and private communities and if the masses weren&#8217;t doing it in droves. As it is now, authorities will go for the low hanging fruit in publicly available torrents and try not to expose their IPs by not seeding every torrent on the planet, otherwise it&#8217;ll make the job of university researchers that track the trackers a lot easier in determining where those IPs are.</p>
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		<title>By: juchmis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[juchmis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eh, doesn&#039;t matter. It&#039;s trivial to get a residential ISP to agree to a scheme involving you getting lots of connections and IPs at a reduced rate, especially for business class lines. 



I haven&#039;t actually encountered any use of OVH/Leaseweb by DMCA contractors. Always residential lines. I guess the level 1 blocklist used by peerguardian really is shit. 


Refer to my reply to &quot;joao cesar&quot; below for a little more detail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, doesn&#8217;t matter. It&#8217;s trivial to get a residential ISP to agree to a scheme involving you getting lots of connections and IPs at a reduced rate, especially for business class lines. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t actually encountered any use of OVH/Leaseweb by DMCA contractors. Always residential lines. I guess the level 1 blocklist used by peerguardian really is shit. </p>
<p>Refer to my reply to &#8220;joao cesar&#8221; below for a little more detail.</p>
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		<title>By: juchmis</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, OK, cool story I get it.

I don&#039;t like to talk about it, but at one time in my life I worked a forensics job for an independent firm. Lots of criminal complaint type stuff came through our office. It was only after too many &quot;copyright infringement&quot; cases came across my lab that I quit. Not like piracy infringement, like corporate reverse engineering complaints against employees who were making a little extra on the side taking their dongles apart.

It&#039;s because of the experience I gained in Web forensics, that is logging, tracing, tapping, etc, that I can tell you it&#039;s trivial to continue to make vulnerable any BitTorrent swarm. 

With 50,000 USD, minor support from a residential class ISP, a bit of social redirection tactics, I could set a client up with the institutional capability to acquire the IP address of 99% of peers on What.CD. They have 11.3 million peers at this moment, across 1.7 million torrents. That&#039;s for roughly 160k users. On What there is no maximum on how many torrents an account can be leeching. A friend of mine once bought a What account for 12 USD, and proceeded to download every album he wanted. He saved the .torrent files and then piled them into a uTorrent install, and then Force Started them all. He got banned, but who cares? He already had the peer lists and his torrent was happily downloading away. The peers involved were none the wiser. This was with an account less than 24 hours old.


A three month &quot;sting&quot; could culminate in one day of all out peer list grabbing. It&#039;s fairly safe to assume most users are seeding (or leeching) at least one thing at any given time, just by the nature of What. This whole thing would be scripted, involving the Selenium as a solution for executing the job of scraping the .torrents from the site.


Now, does this equal out to thousands of infringement letters? No, but it equals out to a lot of data on infringing connections.


Your precious BitTorrent is NOT secure. Over the traditional Web, it can never truly be. VPNs and proxies and seedboxes are a temporary solution to a deep rooted issue. Whether its trackers or swarms, it&#039;s never /really/ safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, OK, cool story I get it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like to talk about it, but at one time in my life I worked a forensics job for an independent firm. Lots of criminal complaint type stuff came through our office. It was only after too many &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221; cases came across my lab that I quit. Not like piracy infringement, like corporate reverse engineering complaints against employees who were making a little extra on the side taking their dongles apart.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s because of the experience I gained in Web forensics, that is logging, tracing, tapping, etc, that I can tell you it&#8217;s trivial to continue to make vulnerable any BitTorrent swarm. </p>
<p>With 50,000 USD, minor support from a residential class ISP, a bit of social redirection tactics, I could set a client up with the institutional capability to acquire the IP address of 99% of peers on What.CD. They have 11.3 million peers at this moment, across 1.7 million torrents. That&#8217;s for roughly 160k users. On What there is no maximum on how many torrents an account can be leeching. A friend of mine once bought a What account for 12 USD, and proceeded to download every album he wanted. He saved the .torrent files and then piled them into a uTorrent install, and then Force Started them all. He got banned, but who cares? He already had the peer lists and his torrent was happily downloading away. The peers involved were none the wiser. This was with an account less than 24 hours old.</p>
<p>A three month &#8220;sting&#8221; could culminate in one day of all out peer list grabbing. It&#8217;s fairly safe to assume most users are seeding (or leeching) at least one thing at any given time, just by the nature of What. This whole thing would be scripted, involving the Selenium as a solution for executing the job of scraping the .torrents from the site.</p>
<p>Now, does this equal out to thousands of infringement letters? No, but it equals out to a lot of data on infringing connections.</p>
<p>Your precious BitTorrent is NOT secure. Over the traditional Web, it can never truly be. VPNs and proxies and seedboxes are a temporary solution to a deep rooted issue. Whether its trackers or swarms, it&#8217;s never /really/ safe.</p>
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		<title>By: joao cesar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joao cesar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are suspicious IPs if you have closed communities that assign users to IP ranges, log IPs with something like wireshark, and ban users when the IPs associated with said user coincide with the torrents that have been flagged by the copyright watchdog. If the copyright watchdog starts to DMCA too many torrents with too few peers, then it becomes a lot easier to narrow down and target the copyright scrapers. When Underground Gamer went down, they were talking about how a certain IP had had a lot to do with the DMCA notice Fifa 98 had gotten and this was how it was done.

So the solution to the onslaught of copyright thuggery is, once they get too ambitious and track too many torrents, range after range after user and so on can be banned from private torrent forums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are suspicious IPs if you have closed communities that assign users to IP ranges, log IPs with something like wireshark, and ban users when the IPs associated with said user coincide with the torrents that have been flagged by the copyright watchdog. If the copyright watchdog starts to DMCA too many torrents with too few peers, then it becomes a lot easier to narrow down and target the copyright scrapers. When Underground Gamer went down, they were talking about how a certain IP had had a lot to do with the DMCA notice Fifa 98 had gotten and this was how it was done.</p>
<p>So the solution to the onslaught of copyright thuggery is, once they get too ambitious and track too many torrents, range after range after user and so on can be banned from private torrent forums.</p>
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