I love their crazy actions to strike and protest things, even if it’s very inconvenient…

Blocking all the motorways or stopping the Paris metro would show Sarky!

Maybe all French schoolkids and university students could strike for a day??>

It’s problematic in Europe when a large and important country does something, the smaller countries soon start taking after. We really don’t need this.

I think you’ll find the music sounds just as good without the vastly profitable and greedy middlemen who are, after all, the ‘rights holders’. Not the artists.

Of course it is not unreasonable to make money from making music, it is not however a mathematical equation that music=money. If business were only that simple.

It is also not true that ‘a downloaded track’='a lost sale’, which is again best left to PR men employed by fatcat ‘rights holders’. It is however, or should be, patently obvious that music fans like music. Quite why anybody would think it good business to destroy free targetted advertising is beyond my logic.

I completely agree! Musicians have no right to earn money by recording music. Creating music, writing books and software, journalism, etc, are purely hobbies, and it’s unreasonable that anyone should be able to make a living. But of course, profiting from third-party’s recordings without compensating the artist is a perfectly valid career if you live in Russia (or work for a major label). I’m looking forward to the day when studio recording is replaced by crappy live recordings to be freely shared. Why should anyone waste hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars trying to make music that sounds good?

a friend who has found the “path”.

it should be specified that the judge is “virtual”, cut Internet will be automatic and one duration of 1 year. Hadopi will be based only on address IP. If the owner of address IP is not guilty, he will nevertheless be condemned for “not security of his access Internet.

Didn’t attend logic class, did we, Mr Anonymous? If going “through all this” is a nuisance (even a bigger one than paying, as implied by your words), then not resorting to the lesser nuisance (paying) clearly proves the exact opposite of your thesis: that is is not about money (nuisance) but about ethics (rights).

Nick, why do you assume the right to make a living from making a music track? It certainly never used to be that way and it is certainly not the reason copyright laws were created.

It is a sad misconception you are suffering from and not any affects of the civil law of ‘copyright infringement’, to give it its proper name. It is a very recent concept that one should be able to make a simple music track and make a proper, even prosperous, living forever after on the back of it.

Are you just too good to work for a living? You position yourself socially beyond somebody with real responsibilities such as the Macdonalds employees you refer to.

You sound bitter, presumably driven by a failed investment in yourself. You seem to have, rather arrogantly, decided that this is not due to your own inadequacies (see previous paragraph) or lack of musical or business talent and trot out the same old rubbish that online file sharing is the real reason for your failure.

You maybe failed to market your creation well, you maybe failed to take advantage of opportunities. Perhaps your creation lacked mass market appeal. Who am I to say either way.

What I can say is that the civil crime of ‘copyright infringement’ is not theft, in the same manner as playing music so loudly as to annoy the neighbours is not murder. It simply isnt, despite much PR (notwithstanding that of your own making) to that effect.

I can also say that despite your self-belief and subsequent (perhaps poor) investment you are not the first to not generate hoped for returns on that investment. It’s true to say that many, obviously excluding yourself, go as far as creating actual businesses and do real actual work only to have those businesses and investments fail. Doubtlessly they also would seek to apportion blame elsewhere.

Personally I would consider it wise to accept personal responsibility for failures and learn from it. As you say, you are pro choice. Maybe you chose unwisely? Perhaps next time you will leave your ego out of the equation, as with most business in the big bad world, and make a more prosperous choice.

Investments do not, by nature, guarantee a return.

PS. Please feel free to copy my work (aka text) here, I have no expectations to make a living from it. You understand there is no difference don’t you?

So, account holder will be prosecuted for something he has not done? Law upside-down? Innocent ppl have to proof their innocence, and this is in FRANCE?? Sounds like new revolution is needed.

No, sorry to disappoint you. It’s the beginning of the next evolution. Right now, we already have censorship resistant anonymous P2P networks like Freenet, I2P, Gnunet, … The only problem with those networks is that we don’t have enough participants.

Now, HADOPI-style legislation is a god-sent to finally push more people to those P2P networks. The more their laws go overboard, the fuller those anoymous networks will become… and the more useful too.

I personally welcome those fascist laws a la 3-strikes: they are a good kick in the butt for all those lazy file sharers who didn’t switch to anonymous yet… or who foolishly think that direct download servers and seedboxes would last forever (hint: they won’t, being the next on the MAFIAA’s target list).

Its just Reasoned Mind with another of his sock puppets! Just ignore him!

Obvious troll is obvious.

Why anybody thinks this isn’t stealing and justifies it just shows how far we’ve sunk.

I’d like one of you snot-nosed lazy asses to work for a year on something, put your own money into it, then have everybody steal it.
Then maybe you’d have the right to have a valid opinion. Otherwise, just play Doom and work at Mickey D’s.
I”m pro choice. If a band wants to give their stuff away, I’m all for it. But if I DON’T, I shouldn’t have to. You see, I OWN IT, you DON’T!
And don’t tell me it’s because “music is too expensive.” So are BMW’s, go steal one of them!
And lastly, EVERYTHING is too expensive when you work for minimum wage!
What a bunch of losers.