I wonder what the original author of the data leaked has to say about all this?

They are not a good bunch of people over there. It’s generally thick with thugs and chavs, and the lack of respect they show for any other torrent site shows in their forums. I find this whole story very amusing.

Man ! Someone ripped off the shit I ripped off !!

I will leak, I will share, I will keep P2P free no matter what it takes.

Oh what are you going to do.. ban my IP? Call the cops?

Yeah I thought so.. go f*ck yourself.

So-called private sites with 1000′s of members aren’t really private. Who has 100′s of friends? Right.

It’s already piracy to begin with so it’s only logical already pirated content can (or better: can’t) be pirated again.

Worst are lame sites making money with donations and VIP schemes trying to protect “their” uploaders/ money makers (usually just re-dumpers of scene stuff).

The genie is out of the bottle with file sharing, and you aren’t going to put it back in. There is an itunes model without the RIAA or DRM…emusic. And it’s profitable. But lets face facts: The music industry will continue to lose money because most people will take for free if they can. As more and more people grow up with the technology, the effects are just going to snowball.

The future of business model for
the music industry will be using recorded music as a promotion tool for touring and merch. Music is a performance art and as such the artists should get paid for performing it. Independent musicians have been living off of this model for decades.

Lets face it, the record company is quickly becoming obsolete and the sun is setting on the era of the filthy rich rock star. And music is better off for it. Music needs an atmosphere that encourages it’s evolution. Taking the record industry out of the equation will do that.

Quite frankly, this sort of behavior, as others have already said, smacks of elitism. And if I encountered such at a private site (which I don’t really care to use), I would probably cancel my membership there in protest.

If you created an exact copy of a Lamborghini Gallardo and gave it out for free, you wouldn’t have stolen any Gallardos from Lamborghini. That’s the point.

Loss of revenue is a whole seperate issue from the fallacy that filesharing = stealing.

But if you want to claim that Lamborghini suffered a loss of revenue because you gave away a Gallardo for free, then you’d have to prove that whoever you gave that Gallardo to would have otherwise purchased one directly from Lamborghini.

Even if you gave it to a filthy rich Lamborghini collector, it still isn’t an open and shut case of lost revenue. What if they were planning to buy a Gallardo, but from another private collector or at an auction? In that case, Lamborghini wouldn’t have seen any money either way.

@xen
“You have reason why you do it, now come with a good business model and promote that, please.”

Okay.

Take the iTunes business model, and now completely remove the MAFIAA from the equation. Bam!

What do I win?

what the fuck are they gonna do fucking call the cops on them, the admins should slit their wrists and get on with their lives.

Excuse my bluntness but I will not tolerate a hypocrite.

lolololol @ irony

1. What happens when several “release groups” end up releasing the SAME content?
I mean, let’s say a cracking group cracks a game, and another one works on the SAME game? It’s not that far-fetched of a scenario, really. And “albums?” Come on folks — unless it’s some really obscure thing where there’s only about 50 physical copies, how the hell are you gonna be able to claim that it was “your” release and not someone else’s?

The point here is: elitism, and the power-trip involved in being an “authorized” distribution channel. Control-freak bullshit is more in line with the “MAFIAA”, doncha think? Or am I missing something here?

(That, and I though the whole point of “private” trackers was to keep a low profile from the RIAA’s tactics.)

Elitist bullshit annoys me, it really does — whether it’s Valenti (may he burn in hell for eternity) trying to get VCR’s banned, or some pretentious “scenester” going into butthurt-overload because he didn’t get his ass kissed enough by other “scenesters”.

Go play schoolyard games somewhere else, dumbass.

Funny story though. I picked up a 70gb “exclusive” release to one of the small trackers I’m on off of mininova, turned it around to bank a TON of ratio…see releasing “exclusives” outside of the tracker certainly has benefits for the members -ca-ching-

Anyway, it’s arrogance and hypocrisy and dashed with an elitist sense of entitlement. We are the intelligent, caring community who will cherish this content and will support the artists (ROFL) cause we’re righteous…therefore we’re the only people deserving of it.

You’ve got to laugh at this little bubble of mob mentality growing within a greater community which values the sharing of information over all. It just goes to show you that people are people and their behaviors will never change.

Ha ha, fuck-wits :p

1st of all, if you want to run your own little scene you don’t use torrents.

If your so “cool” set up your own 100mbs box(s) in some undisclosed location, and run a logged file server, just like the “scene”.

If you want some kind of exclusive torrent site, right off the bat your a noob who dosent even understand how it all works.

And as we all know, even the most private, and protected files get leaked within seconds/minutes of rls. Of course if its anything worthwhile.

And like I, or anyone else gives a shit? If its actually anything of value (in terms of people actually wanting it), it’ll be on all the trackers and usenet anyways, no matter what.

So go right ahead, keep that garbage to yourself. Nobody wanted it anyways. Little emo fame seeker noobs.

Bet they sit around and talk about their worthless torrents on fish encrypted channels all day too, like its “important”… ROFL

PZ

Their rules are that without the express permission of the uploader you are not “allowed” to upload the albums in any form, any where.

If people breaking that rule are found, and quite often are, they are banned instantly.

Lulz.

Besides. When has there evar been honor amoung theives?

Pirates are pirates are pirates.

“If you don’t want your content to be reposted, don’t put it up on the Internet in the first place.

Of course if you do that, you won’t be able to share anything ever.

Seriously, just listen to yourself – you are pissed off that someone copied THE COPY YOU MADE. That’s pathetic. What next, put DRM on your uploaded torrents so they cannot be copied anymore? That sounds all to familiar, don’t you thinkg?

Fucking hypocrites.”

That right there owns anything anyone can say about this! So STFU

If the creators ran their own trackers and ensured there were good download speeds and no dead torrents, it would become the preferred torrent site and that would be a lot of eyeballs. Eyeballs = revenue. They could even advertise their own related material (toys, games, books, etc.) and generate more revenue.

NO – Stop your bitchin’

YES – you’re getting free recognition. If your stuff is good, and you do it in a simple way, people will be willing to pay a reasonable amount of money for it.

End of Problem

I’m glad you asked. Here is a good business model for you that never fails:

1. get a job
2. work
3. work
4. work more
5. ???
6. PROFIT!!!

Now you can make the music you’d like to listen yourself and share it for free.

And frankly, i would do the same if I was in his position, because everyone deserves a share, not just you assholes.

Yeah, I think you have to understand that as pirates, we believe copyright is destructive to creativity and that it should be abolished. A lot of us are also (libertarian) socialists! *gasp*

You might not destroying the original, but it still doesn?t change the fact that someone might lose money on it who do not deserve it.”

Case-in-point: industrial revolution. It enabled easy replication of labor, to the detriment of artisans. Sure, plenty of Luddites tried to resist this by sabotaging machinery, but they lost.

“You have reason why you do it, now come with a good business model and promote that, please.”

If the industry cannot find a way to adapt themselves, then that is their problem. We the people do not have this imaginary obligation (that you have dreamt up) to support them and help them with a business model whether we like them or not, because we are not slaves or vassals to the entertainment industry.