For the stupid communist argument people: your idea of eliminating IP is a very communist idea, in the literal sense of the world. You want to share ideas and allow knowledge to advance without limitation. IP is a very capitalist idea: allowing people to make money off of their inventions.

And what’s so wrong with copyright? Giving someone some say for the expresison they create. If I write a song, what right do you have to it? I wrote it for me. Not for the public good.

And pharamceutical companies have advanced the science we all live by through the patent system. It’s worked.

And I guess that’s my big complaint with the anti-IP crowd: How can you say it doesn’t work? Look around. all the content you love? Made with copyright. Funded with copyright. All your technology? Made and patented. Funded through a patent. The IP rights that you want to eliminate help fund further advancement of society.

Let’s not be too hasty in throwing that out the window.

Somehow they don’t patronize “Sharing an Caring” individuals.I think maybe they’ll convert Intellectual Property to Shareware

How can someone own (!) immaterial things?

Try to explain that?

Only material things can be owned. And the can only be owned by persons (which own themselves and therefore can own other things).

Self-owners can own material things in the world (by appropriation) and the can make contracts with other self-owners (in which way the can also acquire property owned by others).

Ideas cannot be owned. Procedures cannot be owned. Formulas cannot be owned. And so own.

To think ideas can be owned means that you are a socialist who wants to impede the rights of rightful property owners.

As long as you pay the patent holder some royalty, it should be okay.

It’s taking place on The Pirate Bay right now. It sends a message to arrogant companies like EA and Politicians like Biden who take bribes from the RIAA that we’re sick of their sleazy ways. We’re sick of them writing laws that advantage Disney, extend copyrights that should have expired long ago. We’re sick of public domain rights being stripped. We’re sick of patent lawyers and politicians in the pocket of their biggest donors.

The people have spoke and said ENOUGH. Lets make the RIAA an election issue.

it really is no use trying to be common sense to the table.

Survival of the fittest works.

I’m still waiting for some to answer the question — why is it OK for some company to sink tons of money into a cure for something, only so that someone like me can go find the recipe, cook it up in my garage, sell it for 10% of the cost (since I didn’t actually have to invest in any sort of research, or hire doctors or anything) and put them out of business?

This isn’t about us “allowing” them to do anything. It’s about the government pretending that people can own ideas and forcing everyone else to go along with that so the company can make more money.

I am not advocating copyright of movies/music/media. I am referring STRICTLY to the examples posed in this article about things like biotechnology and pharmaceuticals, i.e. things that clearly make a positive impact in our world by saving lives, but still cost a shitton of money to research, with no way around it.

You can’t invent a genetic cancer treatment on a shoestring budget the way you can get GarageBand and create a song, it’s not the same thing. For those companies that spend lots of time/money creating legitimate products that cure illness and such, I think they should be allowed to earn back their investment and feed their employees, don’t you?

I do not advocate IP law the way we have now at all. I have said that many times. I am not saying the system is good. I’m just saying, if we tear it all down, we still should at least put something in place for situations like this.

@34, are you REALLY refuting my argument by just saying that people aren’t worth expensive cures? That if it costs Genentech billions of dollars to find a cure for something, they should just give up and let people die instead? Man, this problem goes deeper than I thought with some of you people. Wait until your first kid gets leukemia in high school and then see how you feel about that one.

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Screw them and their kind. Artists can do just find without them. And whomever said about artist not being able to eat and getting coins by street performing, that’s just a ridiculous statement. Besides, i’ve heard of street performers getting several hundred dollars a day. Nothing to a big wig in some cushy office, but to the normal person, that’s a lot of money.

Anyway, i’m off to burn some latest cd’s and leaving them for people free in public places. Enjoy not getting a cent all you RIAA pricks. I’ll never buy one of your cd’s or movies ever again.

Very easy. That way Intellectual holder have a means to further expand both market and profit. And it works off the current system.

My uncle has created an application generator for IT systems, he spent 20 years coding the thing. Now if i was in the same shoes, i would release the product for educational purposes only and those who wish to make a profit will pay royalties. Its a win-win situation.

for some reason.

(/idiot redundancy off)