Comments on: Swedes To Be Wiretapped, Despite Protests http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Fri, 25 May 2012 22:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: BritishTruthSeeker http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-445061 BritishTruthSeeker Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:08:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-445061 To the Swedish people: make no mistake about it, this has happened because your politicians have been bribed and/or blackmailed by the Illuminati who recruit these traitors through sinister secret societies such as the Bilderberg Group and the freemasons. This is part of a wider plan to eventually force everyone to have RFID chips inserted under their skin, thus placing everyone under the total control of these evil people. If you don't believe it, listen to what the famous film maker Aaron Russo revealed about what the Illuminati's Nicholas Rockefeller told him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GBTRFC7lcI To the Swedish people: make no mistake about it, this has happened because your politicians have been bribed and/or blackmailed by the Illuminati who recruit these traitors through sinister secret societies such as the Bilderberg Group and the freemasons. This is part of a wider plan to eventually force everyone to have RFID chips inserted under their skin, thus placing everyone under the total control of these evil people.

If you don’t believe it, listen to what the famous film maker Aaron Russo revealed about what the Illuminati’s Nicholas Rockefeller told him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GBTRFC7lcI

]]> By: Moo http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-434572 Moo Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:34:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-434572 Easy way to defeat this. Stop using Swedish data services, use encryption not just on email, switch all web sites to use SSL by default. I personally cancelled 2 of my Spray.se accounts. I say fuck the Swedes. Easy way to defeat this. Stop using Swedish data services, use encryption not just on email, switch all web sites to use SSL by default.

I personally cancelled 2 of my Spray.se accounts. I say fuck the Swedes.

]]> By: Leishtek http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-431857 Leishtek Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:20:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-431857 time to pull the plug on Internets. Things are no longer fun here. Time to goes... time to pull the plug on Internets. Things are no longer fun here. Time to goes…

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-431766 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:45:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-431766 Does anyone have a link to the text of the bill? Does anyone have a link to the text of the bill?

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-430247 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:16:01 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-430247 it makes me vomit. all this in Sweden, the country wich is ( was ) suposed to be the most tollerant and democratic ? What are those doing ? sleeping ? come on guys, show us some courage, anarchism. it makes me vomit. all this in Sweden, the country wich is ( was ) suposed to be the most tollerant and democratic ? What are those doing ? sleeping ? come on guys, show us some courage, anarchism.

]]> By: Anon http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-429910 Anon Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:44:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-429910 I live in South Africa for the moment (studies) and I also thought Sweden was one of the last bastions of freedom, but it seems G Dubs has his nose in EVERYONE'S business. Already sent an email to all those addresses and I really hope the people of Sverige will keep fighting this abuse of human rights. Here in we don't have these stupid 'anti-terrorism' acts but only because the blatantly corrupt government is busy fighting between itself over bribe money etc. For example, they are now pushing for the dissolution of an anti-corruption agency (the scorpions) after the police commissioner has been caught and suspended on corruption charges, the best thing is, the case files which need to be handed over to the scorpions have now been refused by the current acting police commissioner. Not even an attempt to lie (something like 'lost'), that's how stupid the government in this place is. So people of Sweden, keep fighting and remember, "People shouldn't be scared of their government, the government should be scared of its people." I live in South Africa for the moment (studies) and I also thought Sweden was one of the last bastions of freedom, but it seems G Dubs has his nose in EVERYONE’S business. Already sent an email to all those addresses and I really hope the people of Sverige will keep fighting this abuse of human rights. Here in we don’t have these stupid ‘anti-terrorism’ acts but only because the blatantly corrupt government is busy fighting between itself over bribe money etc. For example, they are now pushing for the dissolution of an anti-corruption agency (the scorpions) after the police commissioner has been caught and suspended on corruption charges, the best thing is, the case files which need to be handed over to the scorpions have now been refused by the current acting police commissioner. Not even an attempt to lie (something like ‘lost’), that’s how stupid the government in this place is. So people of Sweden, keep fighting and remember, “People shouldn’t be scared of their government, the government should be scared of its people.”

]]> By: Lisa http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-428918 Lisa Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:15:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-428918 Sweden is run by the White House since the Scientology scandal in the 90's, when the laws were changes to accomodate for American corporate needs - just like now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Panoussis These shameless politicians that voted in favour of this ridiculous law are supposed to be working FOR the people whom they represent, not for the MPAA, RIAA and iTunes. Fy fan, Sverige. Fy fan. Power to the people. Sweden is run by the White House since the Scientology scandal in the 90′s, when the laws were changes to accomodate for American corporate needs – just like now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Panoussis

These shameless politicians that voted in favour of this ridiculous law are supposed to be working FOR the people whom they represent, not for the MPAA, RIAA and iTunes.

Fy fan, Sverige. Fy fan.
Power to the people.

]]> By: Christopher http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-428181 Christopher Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:32:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-428181 "Where did we go so wrong??" We went so wrong with allowing rights to be 'limited' by our governments in the first place. We should have told them that it is a human right for someone to sleep with whoever they want, a human right for people to tell others to stay the *bleep* out of our business, and a human right to be allowed to do ANYTHING unless you are forcing someone else to do something that they do not want to do or are forcing someone else to NOT do something that they want to do, unless they are DIRECTLY AND PHYSICALLY putting someone in danger without their permission. “Where did we go so wrong??”

We went so wrong with allowing rights to be ‘limited’ by our governments in the first place. We should have told them that it is a human right for someone to sleep with whoever they want, a human right for people to tell others to stay the *bleep* out of our business, and a human right to be allowed to do ANYTHING unless you are forcing someone else to do something that they do not want to do or are forcing someone else to NOT do something that they want to do, unless they are DIRECTLY AND PHYSICALLY putting someone in danger without their permission.

]]> By: oneplusone http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-428023 oneplusone Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:12:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-428023 RE: " 87 Jun 20, 2008 at 22:04 by DukeW I always love it when dumb people jump to conclusions and break both legs. Frederika, have you ever actually READ your governing documents? If so, did you UNDERSTAND them? If they don't specifically spell out a "right to privacy," you don't have one. And the reason for this law isn't any pressure from the US (or any other country). The problem is all around you. Go walk through Centrum in Norsberg, and tell me how many times you hear Svenska, and how many times you hear Arabic. Here's a link to an article on a small town till Sverige that calls itself "Little Baghdad" now: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25004140 THIS is the problem: Sodertalje and Norsberg aren't the only cities overrun by people who aren't Swedes, and frankly don't care for you or any of your people. You're in a warzone now, and it's time you woke up and realized it. This gives Sapo a fighting chance to find the bad guys and get rid of them before they kill you all in your comfortable but ignorant beds. Lucka till, sweetheart, you'll need it. " Dood, I hate to break it to ya, but Muslims aren't the problem in the world. They don't drop depleted uranium by the TONNE on other countries. They don't influence foreign countries internal affairs like the corp-imperialist western powers do. Whoa, Duke! Look out behind you! Someone who doesn't look exactly like YOU was reported to be in existence, somewhere in your country/city/neighborhood/bedroom. Take precautions, Dwight. Bear attacks don't call ahead. RE: ” 87 Jun 20, 2008 at 22:04 by DukeW

I always love it when dumb people jump to conclusions and break both legs. Frederika, have you ever actually READ your governing documents? If so, did you UNDERSTAND them? If they don’t specifically spell out a “right to privacy,” you don’t have one. And the reason for this law isn’t any pressure from the US (or any other country). The problem is all around you. Go walk through Centrum in Norsberg, and tell me how many times you hear Svenska, and how many times you hear Arabic. Here’s a link to an article on a small town till Sverige that calls itself “Little Baghdad” now: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25004140
THIS is the problem: Sodertalje and Norsberg aren’t the only cities overrun by people who aren’t Swedes, and frankly don’t care for you or any of your people. You’re in a warzone now, and it’s time you woke up and realized it. This gives Sapo a fighting chance to find the bad guys and get rid of them before they kill you all in your comfortable but ignorant beds. Lucka till, sweetheart, you’ll need it.
”

Dood, I hate to break it to ya, but Muslims aren’t the problem in the world. They don’t drop depleted uranium by the TONNE on other countries. They don’t influence foreign countries internal affairs like the corp-imperialist western powers do.

Whoa, Duke! Look out behind you! Someone who doesn’t look exactly like YOU was reported to be in existence, somewhere in your country/city/neighborhood/bedroom. Take precautions, Dwight. Bear attacks don’t call ahead.

]]> By: oneplusone http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-428005 oneplusone Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:53:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-428005 I sent this to the list of email addys provided by #25... "Subject: Nice law, Sweden. Cheney help you draft that one? Very sad day for freedom, for Sweden and for the common man's privacy, worldwide. I'm Canadian, and I simply couldn't believe my eyes when I read the news. Look, now Sweden has no distinguishments whatsoever. They bow to US corporate interests like the REST of the world. And they share intelligence with the most self-serving (and undeservedly so) global interest in the history of mankind. Swedish lawmakers who voted for this legislation, from what I can tell from the scuttle-butt on the web, you all had best not turn on your computers for the next millennia or so. And really, who's fault is that? It remains to be seen if this will withstand the inevitable public protests and IP/data chicanery that is sure to follow. Good luck living in the new network utopia." I sent this to the list of email addys provided by #25…
“Subject: Nice law, Sweden. Cheney help you draft that one?

Very sad day for freedom, for Sweden and for the common man’s privacy, worldwide. I’m Canadian, and I simply couldn’t believe my eyes when I read the news. Look, now Sweden has no distinguishments whatsoever. They bow to US corporate interests like the REST of the world. And they share intelligence with the most self-serving (and undeservedly so) global interest in the history of mankind. Swedish lawmakers who voted for this legislation, from what I can tell from the scuttle-butt on the web, you all had best not turn on your computers for the next millennia or so. And really, who’s fault is that? It remains to be seen if this will withstand the inevitable public protests and IP/data chicanery that is sure to follow. Good luck living in the new network utopia.”

]]> By: oneplusone http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-427970 oneplusone Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:06:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-427970 @: I admit I read this article first thing in the morning and was completely flummoxed by the bizarre backwards behavior of the Swedish legislators who voted for this law, but in reading your post I gotta agree that this is merely a wedge in a larger game. I've always contended that the NWO needs downloads to achieve control over us and our lives. Scary as fugg.... @:

I admit I read this article first thing in the morning and was completely flummoxed by the bizarre backwards behavior of the Swedish legislators who voted for this law, but in reading your post I gotta agree that this is merely a wedge in a larger game. I’ve always contended that the NWO needs downloads to achieve control over us and our lives. Scary as fugg….

]]> By: Antoinette http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-427916 Antoinette Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:10:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-427916 Well, remember that Swedes have been brainwashed for many more years by the Socialist Brotherhood in Scandinavia. The politicians are all copying each other. From laws to pick-pocket your hard earned after-tax salary, to the fictive car, fuel and electrical prices in Scandinavia to ourageous VAT rates. The goal is to make you pay 3 times what the product really costs. Take a look at your gas or electrical bill. It doesn't have anything to do with the energy product. 2/3 of it are taxes. Even apartments called "BRF" in Sweden are taxed to death if it so happens that there are stores on the ground floor. God forbid if any profit shows up. And now this DDR-Stasi law to infringe on citizens rights to privacy. Who is going to monitor the gov. employee listening-in if he happens to listen in on confidential company business and does some insider-information-stock trading? The next thing these reckless dreamers will be doing is to inject a chip in your ass or measure your lung capacity and tax you on the carbon dioxide released. Oh, well, you can always stop breathing. The politicians who voted for this law remind me of Louis the XVI of France. Living in another world, separated from their people and with their heads in a cloud until the cleansing French Revolution came and swept them all away. Well, remember that Swedes have been brainwashed for many more years by the Socialist Brotherhood in Scandinavia. The politicians are all copying each other. From laws to pick-pocket your hard earned after-tax salary, to the fictive car, fuel and electrical prices in Scandinavia to ourageous VAT rates. The goal is to make you pay 3 times what the product really costs. Take a look at your gas or electrical bill. It doesn’t have anything to do with the energy product. 2/3 of it are taxes. Even apartments called “BRF” in Sweden are taxed to death if it so happens that there are stores on the ground floor. God forbid if any profit shows up.

And now this DDR-Stasi law to infringe on citizens rights to privacy. Who is going to monitor the gov. employee listening-in if he happens to listen in on confidential company business and does some insider-information-stock trading?

The next thing these reckless dreamers will be doing is to inject a chip in your ass or measure your lung capacity and tax you on the carbon dioxide released. Oh, well, you can always stop breathing.

The politicians who voted for this law remind me of Louis the XVI of France. Living in another world, separated from their people and with their heads in a cloud until the cleansing French Revolution came and swept them all away.

]]> By: Crimson http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-427401 Crimson Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:06:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-427401 The Swedish people are not fully to blame for this; all of the media outlets (newspaper, radio, television) were censored of all coverage on the bill, until about 2 days before it was passed [this only because the Pirate Party and other activists had leaked the info to concerned people, and the media needed damage control to keep a massive groundswell from stopping the bill]. The current ruling party isn't totally to blame either; all of the other major parties are only giving token resistance/ "harsh words" until the current party is voted out, and the opposition voted in: then they will keep on exactly with business as usual. From what I've seen, a few top-level officials got paid-off/threatened/turned to the dark side, and controlled everyone else, saying "vote for this or you're out"; and all of the politicians bent over and said "Have a nice day". Whoever said grumbling will never work, is right. You have to take your government back; they have demonstrated that they are no longer from the people. That means that you, Swedes (If you are Swedish, I am talking to you), YOU must get involved in politics, and become a politician; educate your local community, become an elected official, and work your way up through the ranks. When the government has severed itself from the people, you can't turn them back; you have to form a new government of the people. Hopefully by peaceful, democratically political means! The Swedish people are not fully to blame for this; all of the media outlets (newspaper, radio, television) were censored of all coverage on the bill, until about 2 days before it was passed [this only because the Pirate Party and other activists had leaked the info to concerned people, and the media needed damage control to keep a massive groundswell from stopping the bill].

The current ruling party isn’t totally to blame either; all of the other major parties are only giving token resistance/ “harsh words” until the current party is voted out, and the opposition voted in: then they will keep on exactly with business as usual.

From what I’ve seen, a few top-level officials got paid-off/threatened/turned to the dark side, and controlled everyone else, saying “vote for this or you’re out”; and all of the politicians bent over and said “Have a nice day”.

Whoever said grumbling will never work, is right.

You have to take your government back; they have demonstrated that they are no longer from the people.

That means that you, Swedes (If you are Swedish, I am talking to you), YOU must get involved in politics, and become a politician; educate your local community, become an elected official, and work your way up through the ranks.

When the government has severed itself from the people, you can’t turn them back; you have to form a new government of the people. Hopefully by peaceful, democratically political means!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426985 Anonymous Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:02:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426985 How is this not freaking on BBC news or any other major news network for god's sake... absolutely ridiculous that this is being largely ignored internationally. First I had heard of it was on the front page of pirate bay a few days ago, never before that. How is this not freaking on BBC news or any other major news network for god’s sake… absolutely ridiculous that this is being largely ignored internationally.

First I had heard of it was on the front page of pirate bay a few days ago, never before that.

]]> By: Deadlock http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426850 Deadlock Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:54:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426850 "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin this law is so bullshit.. welcome to 1984 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

this law is so bullshit..

welcome to 1984

]]> By: Hoppsan http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426375 Hoppsan Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:30:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426375 @ Carole: http://swedennotswitzerland.com/wp-content/img/sweden_not_switzerland.png But what you say is still true, indeed. <3 @ Carole: http://swedennotswitzerland.com/wp-content/img/sweden_not_switzerland.png

But what you say is still true, indeed. <3

]]> By: Carole http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426092 Carole Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:55:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426092 Never, ever is any intelligence worth sacrificing a country, people's freedom and privacy. My heart goes out to the Swiss people for such a tragic loss. Never, ever is any intelligence worth sacrificing a country, people’s freedom and privacy.

My heart goes out to the Swiss people for such a tragic loss.

]]> By: blah http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426068 blah Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:19:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426068 Soooo they do moderate here.... that last quote was by forgotten rebels Soooo they do moderate here….
that last quote was by forgotten rebels

]]> By: blah http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426066 blah Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:18:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426066 BOMB THE BOATS FEED THE FUCKING FLESH TO THE FISH BOMB THE BOATS FEED THE FUCKING FLESH TO THE FISH

]]> By: blah http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426054 blah Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:03:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426054 HERES A QUESTION WHAT FRAKING IDIOT SAYS ANYHTING ON A PHOEN ANYHOW. FOR YEARS HERE IN NORTH AMERICA THAT HAS BEEN KNOW THEY ARE OR CAN LISTEN WITH EASE. HERES A QUESTION

WHAT FRAKING IDIOT SAYS ANYHTING ON A PHOEN ANYHOW.

FOR YEARS HERE IN NORTH AMERICA THAT HAS BEEN KNOW THEY ARE OR CAN LISTEN WITH EASE.

]]> By: bogas portugal http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-426024 bogas portugal Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:16:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-426024 ahahahaha!!!!! retards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only got thing from sweden are the bitches and ibraimovich!!!!!!! lolol Pirate party!!!!! ahahahaha!!!!!

retards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only got thing from sweden are the bitches and ibraimovich!!!!!!! lolol

Pirate party!!!!!

]]> By: Erect a Stone! http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425898 Erect a Stone! Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:16:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425898 Once the Swedish citizens manage to get rid of this law (God help them!), a large rectangular stone should be erected in the downtown core of the Swedish capital with all the names of the government officials who voted yes to this law. At the top of the stone, above th enames it should read something like this:"Herein, are the betrayers of the people of Sweden. May God show mercy on their souls, because the citizens of Sweden did not! May all future government officials never forget that their primary duty is to represent the interests of the citizens of Sweden and not special interests, especially of a foreign nature!". Once the Swedish citizens manage to get rid of this law (God help them!), a large rectangular stone should be erected in the downtown core of the Swedish capital with all the names of the government officials who voted yes to this law. At the top of the stone, above th enames it should read something like this:”Herein, are the betrayers of the people of Sweden. May God show mercy on their souls, because the citizens of Sweden did not! May all future government officials never forget that their primary duty is to represent the interests of the citizens of Sweden and not special interests, especially of a foreign nature!”.

]]> By: Use Tor to encrypt all traffic http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425604 Use Tor to encrypt all traffic Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:51:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425604 Please install and run Tor nodes and servers all over Sweden By using tor, you are essentially encrypting all your internet needs. http://www.torproject.org/ Vidalia contains Tor, Privoxy and gui for easy deployment. http://www.vidalia-project.net/ Please install and run Tor nodes and servers all over Sweden

By using tor, you are essentially encrypting all your internet needs.

http://www.torproject.org/

Vidalia contains Tor, Privoxy and gui for easy deployment.

http://www.vidalia-project.net/

]]> By: yellapieman http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425474 yellapieman Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:33:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425474 niniff.com/?YIT niniff.com/?YIT

]]> By: Yoshino in the Moonlight http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425425 Yoshino in the Moonlight Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:13:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425425 All of those 143 people need to be voted out. All of those 143 people need to be voted out.

]]> By: CRK http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425250 CRK Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:22:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425250 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dKFIedvbAik - Dedicated to Sweedish people! http://youtube.com/watch?v=dKFIedvbAik – Dedicated to Sweedish people!

]]> By: edit: http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425222 edit: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:39:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425222 the above post was in reply to post number 87, which is a red herring in this discussion. They are bowing to US pressure. the above post was in reply to post number 87, which is a red herring in this discussion. They are bowing to US pressure.

]]> By: wow...bigotry to the extreme http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425221 wow...bigotry to the extreme Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:38:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425221 big·ot·ry from dictionary . com: /ˈbɪgətri/ Pronunciation[big-uh-tree] ,noun, plural -ries. 1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own. 2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot. [Origin: 1665,75; bigot + -ry, formation parallel to F bigoterie] —Synonyms 1. narrow-mindedness, bias, discrimination. Learn to be tolerant of immigrants people! big·ot·ry from dictionary . com:
/ˈbɪgətri/ Pronunciation[big-uh-tree]
,noun, plural -ries.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
[Origin: 1665,75; bigot + -ry, formation parallel to F bigoterie]

—Synonyms 1. narrow-mindedness, bias, discrimination.

Learn to be tolerant of immigrants people!

]]> By: DukeW http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425150 DukeW Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:04:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425150 I always love it when dumb people jump to conclusions and break both legs. Frederika, have you ever actually READ your governing documents? If so, did you UNDERSTAND them? If they don't specifically spell out a "right to privacy," you don't have one. And the reason for this law isn't any pressure from the US (or any other country). The problem is all around you. Go walk through Centrum in Norsberg, and tell me how many times you hear Svenska, and how many times you hear Arabic. Here's a link to an article on a small town till Sverige that calls itself "Little Baghdad" now: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25004140 THIS is the problem: Sodertalje and Norsberg aren't the only cities overrun by people who aren't Swedes, and frankly don't care for you or any of your people. You're in a warzone now, and it's time you woke up and realized it. This gives Sapo a fighting chance to find the bad guys and get rid of them before they kill you all in your comfortable but ignorant beds. Lucka till, sweetheart, you'll need it. I always love it when dumb people jump to conclusions and break both legs. Frederika, have you ever actually READ your governing documents? If so, did you UNDERSTAND them? If they don’t specifically spell out a “right to privacy,” you don’t have one. And the reason for this law isn’t any pressure from the US (or any other country). The problem is all around you. Go walk through Centrum in Norsberg, and tell me how many times you hear Svenska, and how many times you hear Arabic. Here’s a link to an article on a small town till Sverige that calls itself “Little Baghdad” now: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25004140
THIS is the problem: Sodertalje and Norsberg aren’t the only cities overrun by people who aren’t Swedes, and frankly don’t care for you or any of your people. You’re in a warzone now, and it’s time you woke up and realized it. This gives Sapo a fighting chance to find the bad guys and get rid of them before they kill you all in your comfortable but ignorant beds. Lucka till, sweetheart, you’ll need it.

]]> By: Clever Reverse Pycholgy http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425088 Clever Reverse Pycholgy Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:57:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425088 I think that there are not enough people downloading in Sweden. That's why these laws and others in Europe were passed. In the USA we have learned from our Drug War that making it illegal, only makes things way more popular. In the USA the draconian laws are working bit torrent traffic increases everyday and is at record levels showing no sign of leveling off. All these movies and shows are perfect propaganda for America and its ideas. Many more people in Sweden are going to join the ranks of file sharers once you have fought hard and won the rights back. Few will suspect that the powers that be actually want you to get more US propaganda. Sweden you made this happen by not downloading enough! The only way to be free is smash your TV and never ever watch anything ever again including the news. I won't because I want to be enslaved and Movies are my crack. So cheer up our ability download movies is safe. I think that there are not enough people downloading in Sweden.
That’s why these laws and others in Europe were passed.
In the USA we have learned from our Drug War that making it illegal, only makes things way more popular.
In the USA the draconian laws are working bit torrent traffic increases everyday and is at record levels showing no sign of leveling off.
All these movies and shows are perfect propaganda for America and its ideas.
Many more people in Sweden are going to join the ranks of file sharers once you have fought hard and won the rights back. Few will suspect that the powers that be actually want you to get more US propaganda.
Sweden you made this happen by not downloading enough!
The only way to be free is smash your TV and never ever watch anything ever again including the news.
I won’t because I want to be enslaved and Movies are my crack.
So cheer up our ability download movies is safe.

]]> By: balroggie http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425056 balroggie Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:21:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425056 Welcome Sweden to the ranks of the United States. My advice? Consider the positives! At least your government is honest and open about their intent to destroy your privacy - the U.S. the "land of the free" (just don't ask us why we have more people in jail than any other country) isn't even that open about it. Sure they monitor everything and yes they tap phones they just pretend they don't and then grant phone companies "immunity" from violating the law that their federal masters ordered them to violate or else. Sorry Sweden you guys are pikers compared to the U.S. WE DO FACISM RIGHT! Welcome Sweden to the ranks of the United States. My advice? Consider the positives! At least your government is honest and open about their intent to destroy your privacy – the U.S. the “land of the free” (just don’t ask us why we have more people in jail than any other country) isn’t even that open about it. Sure they monitor everything and yes they tap phones they just pretend they don’t and then grant phone companies “immunity” from violating the law that their federal masters ordered them to violate or else. Sorry Sweden you guys are pikers compared to the U.S. WE DO FACISM RIGHT!

]]> By: typical torrentfreak user http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425040 typical torrentfreak user Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:03:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425040 Wow swedes are dumb and they are all gay Wow swedes are dumb and they are all gay

]]> By: Putin 08 http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-425036 Putin 08 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:58:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-425036 A bill like this won't sustain itself, and neither will the government which passed it. The next Swedish elections will be a massacre for the incumbents, and the only thing awaiting this bill at the EU courts is a messy, violent death. This isn't 1984. This is the setup to a joke, and Swedish parliament getting served with an *epic bitchslap* is the punchline. A bill like this won’t sustain itself, and neither will the government which passed it.

The next Swedish elections will be a massacre for the incumbents, and the only thing awaiting this bill at the EU courts is a messy, violent death.

This isn’t 1984. This is the setup to a joke, and Swedish parliament getting served with an *epic bitchslap* is the punchline.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424995 Anonymous Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:20:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424995 well, my US exit strategy is blown.. can't go there now.. well,
my US exit strategy is blown.. can’t go there now..

]]> By: the word here is http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424959 the word here is Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:31:16 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424959 plutocracy...not a democracy (by definition, there is no true democracy in the world at the moment (unless you count the possibilities of tribal democracy of tribes that haven't been in contact with the rest of the world))...the closest to democracy in the world atm is "heavily corrupt capitalist republics", "heavily corrupt communist republics", and "heavily corrupt despotics (sp?)" Why corrupt? Money. Government's good or bad lies not in its form. It lies in its leaders. Sadly, the leaders in Sweden seem to be the wrong kind (although a majority of leaders are, power corrupts as they say) plutocracy…not a democracy (by definition, there is no true democracy in the world at the moment (unless you count the possibilities of tribal democracy of tribes that haven’t been in contact with the rest of the world))…the closest to democracy in the world atm is “heavily corrupt capitalist republics”, “heavily corrupt communist republics”, and “heavily corrupt despotics (sp?)”

Why corrupt?

Money.

Government’s good or bad lies not in its form.
It lies in its leaders.
Sadly, the leaders in Sweden seem to be the wrong kind (although a majority of leaders are, power corrupts as they say)

]]> By: scanti http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424905 scanti Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:57:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424905 welcome to socialism welcome to socialism

]]> By: Antihypnotic http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424860 Antihypnotic Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:31:50 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424860 WATCH.REALIZE.SAVE YOUR NATION! www imdb com /title/tt1135489/ WATCH.REALIZE.SAVE YOUR NATION!

www imdb com /title/tt1135489/

]]> By: Reality http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424804 Reality Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:45:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424804 Well what I still don't understand is what caused them to vote against their beliefs? Usually fear is the motivator. Obviously they fear something greater than they fear their own people wrath. In USA the corporations rule! This model has been silently exported to your country. When Volvo shareholders voted to sell their largest industry to the US Ford they let the wolf in the fold. Just like there were huge protests about Iraq but it still went ahead. I don't think ppl are realizing what they are up against. The world government is a reality run by corporations but sneaky and behind the scenes. Individual countries governments are becoming increasing irrelevant. I'm guessing that being isolated and suffering economic troubles in Sweden was more scary to those pols. than their own ppl. I don't think it will be as easy to get rid of this law as most ppl seem to think. To fight your enemy you need to know who it is. Do Swedes really know why and how yet? Well what I still don’t understand is what caused them to vote against their beliefs? Usually fear is the motivator. Obviously they fear something greater than they fear their own people wrath.
In USA the corporations rule! This model has been silently exported to your country.
When Volvo shareholders voted to sell their largest industry to the US Ford they let the wolf in the fold.
Just like there were huge protests about Iraq but it still went ahead.
I don’t think ppl are realizing what they are up against.
The world government is a reality run by corporations but sneaky and behind the scenes. Individual countries governments are becoming increasing irrelevant.
I’m guessing that being isolated and suffering economic troubles in Sweden was more scary to those pols. than their own ppl.
I don’t think it will be as easy to get rid of this law as most ppl seem to think. To fight your enemy you need to know who it is. Do Swedes really know why and how yet?

]]> By: swede http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424789 swede Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:19:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424789 This is what happens when you elect the far right into goverment. This is what happens when you elect the far right into goverment.

]]> By: greylion http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424780 greylion Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:59:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424780 I say get 100.000 people to join up and go pull those politicians from Riksdagen and tell them that they're out of a job and pension, and announce that there's going to be an election in a few weeks. I honestly don't think the Swedish military would start shooting at people, who could very well be their own family. I say get 100.000 people to join up and go pull those politicians from Riksdagen and tell them that they’re out of a job and pension, and announce that there’s going to be an election in a few weeks.
I honestly don’t think the Swedish military would start shooting at people, who could very well be their own family.

]]> By: Elganko http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424778 Elganko Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:55:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424778 "People in Sweden and France need to stand up and fight for their rights and freedoms." We are if you haven't noticed, what part of extensive protesting both online and in the streets don't you understand? The whole thing is that the government that we were once so proud of has now turned their back on the wishes of us, the citizens. “People in Sweden and France need to stand up and fight for their rights and freedoms.”

We are if you haven’t noticed, what part of extensive protesting both online and in the streets don’t you understand?
The whole thing is that the government that we were once so proud of has now turned their back on the wishes of us, the citizens.

]]> By: Cory http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424771 Cory Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:44:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424771 I suggest that all Swedes agree to always work some anti-government speech into every email and phone call they make. Just to drown the governments spys in bullshit leads. Run them ragged. I'm sad to see other countries rolling back rights. Its just a matter of time till I loose major freedoms here in the USA. Fuck all. I suggest that all Swedes agree to always work some anti-government speech into every email and phone call they make. Just to drown the governments spys in bullshit leads. Run them ragged. I’m sad to see other countries rolling back rights. Its just a matter of time till I loose major freedoms here in the USA. Fuck all.

]]> By: Fredrika http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424702 Fredrika Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:51:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424702 >68 Jun 20, 2008 at 12:54 by j0k3r > >Fredrika, you must be kidding, right? Nope, it's not a joke. TeliaSonera International Carrier. who routes through Sweden, handles up to 80% of the Internet-traffic from Russia and all former Soviet states, out to the rest of the world. http://www.teliasoneraic.com According to sources this was a large reason behind the urgency for the new cable-spying-bill. http://onsdag.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/urgent-to-all-russians-the-swedish-government-wants-to-spy-on-you/ http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.168493 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idg.se%2F2.1085%2F1.168493&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=sv&tl=en The other agreement i mentioned was signed between Swedish FOI and US DHS, and it concerns exchange of information regarding terrorism research. http://www.foi.se/FOI/Templates/NewsPage____5753.aspx http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foi.se%2FFOI%2FTemplates%2FNewsPage____5753.aspx&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 >68 Jun 20, 2008 at 12:54 by j0k3r
>
>Fredrika, you must be kidding, right?

Nope, it’s not a joke. TeliaSonera International Carrier. who routes through Sweden, handles up to 80% of the Internet-traffic from Russia and all former Soviet states, out to the rest of the world.

http://www.teliasoneraic.com

According to sources this was a large reason behind the urgency for the new cable-spying-bill.

http://onsdag.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/urgent-to-all-russians-the-swedish-government-wants-to-spy-on-you/

http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.168493
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idg.se%2F2.1085%2F1.168493&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=sv&tl=en

The other agreement i mentioned was signed between Swedish FOI and US DHS, and it concerns exchange of information regarding terrorism research.

http://www.foi.se/FOI/Templates/NewsPage____5753.aspx
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foi.se%2FFOI%2FTemplates%2FNewsPage____5753.aspx&sl=sv&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

]]> By: reality http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424681 reality Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:59:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424681 The truth is that the world is ugly. Time and time again it has been shown that countries in Europe vote against their people wishes why? The USA is the world power and rules everyone right now. He who has the gold makes the rules. People in USA turn a blind eye to their government because life is good and they are fat dumb and happy. Seems like people don't want to admit reality. The USA is the winner in the global competition. This will continue until people unite and fight the power, but right now it doesn't go much further than complaining. People in Sweden and France need to stand up and fight for their rights and freedoms. The truth is that the world is ugly.
Time and time again it has been shown that countries in Europe vote against their people wishes why?
The USA is the world power and rules everyone right now. He who has the gold makes the rules. People in USA turn a blind eye to their government because life is good and they are fat dumb and happy. Seems like people don’t want to admit reality. The USA is the winner in the global competition. This will continue until people unite and fight the power, but right now it doesn’t go much further than complaining. People in Sweden and France need to stand up and fight for their rights and freedoms.

]]> By: j0k3r http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424672 j0k3r Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:54:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424672 Fredrika, you must be kidding, right? "Guess which country has 80% of it's Internet-traffic routed through Sweden, on it's way out to the rest of World? Answer: Russia" o.O Fredrika, you must be kidding, right?

“Guess which country has 80% of it’s Internet-traffic routed through Sweden, on it’s way out to the rest of World?

Answer: Russia”

o.O

]]> By: International Bankers http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424660 International Bankers Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:24:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424660 We are the International Bankers and corporations of Borg, prepare to be assimilated, resistance is futile. We are the International Bankers and corporations of Borg, prepare to be assimilated, resistance is futile.

]]> By: Locklear http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424641 Locklear Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:54:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424641 Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Jonssøn Quisling (18 July 1887 , 24 October 1945) was a Norwegian army officer and politician. yeah.. history can be a bitch..... :p Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Jonssøn Quisling (18 July 1887 , 24 October 1945) was a Norwegian army officer and politician.

yeah.. history can be a bitch….. :p

]]> By: L http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424624 L Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:29:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424624 That is an absolutely terrible law. That is an absolutely terrible law.

]]> By: ... http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424602 ... Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:45:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424602 Vidkun Quisling, anyone? do you know anything about your history? who doesnt learns from history, repeats the same mistakes. yeah, history can be a bitch... Vidkun Quisling, anyone? do you know anything about your history? who doesnt learns from history, repeats the same mistakes.

yeah, history can be a bitch…

]]> By: Elganko http://torrentfreak.com/swedes-to-be-wiretapped-despite-protests-080619/#comment-424583 Elganko Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:06:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=2901#comment-424583 Well, at least the Swedish people now know who our enemies are, and I can guarantee this, the people that voted yes to this law, won't have much of a future in our politics. This is what's gonna happen, the people that voted no to the law, now have about 90+% of the Swedish people on their side, so the yes-voters are not gonna last long in our Riksdag. Also, do not expect us to play nicely come Januray 1, 2009, I for one will not stop protesting until this law is nothing but an embarassing memory. That, is my duty as a Swedish citizen. Well, at least the Swedish people now know who our enemies are, and I can guarantee this, the people that voted yes to this law, won’t have much of a future in our politics.

This is what’s gonna happen, the people that voted no to the law, now have about 90+% of the Swedish people on their side, so the yes-voters are not gonna last long in our Riksdag.

Also, do not expect us to play nicely come Januray 1, 2009, I for one will not stop protesting until this law is nothing but an embarassing memory.
That, is my duty as a Swedish citizen.

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