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		<title>NIN Confirms Uploads to Public and Private Torrent Sites</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Jones]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The acceptability of P2P took another big step forward over the weekend, as accounts claiming to be 'the official profile for NIN' appeared on a number of torrent sites, including The Pirate Bay and the private trackers What.cd and Waffles.fm. NIN has now confirmed that these accounts indeed belong to the band. <p>Source: <a href="http://torrentfreak.com">TorrentFreak</a>, for the latest info on <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/copyright-issues/">copyright</a>, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/pirate-talk/">file-sharing</a> and <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/">anonymous VPN services</a>.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The account that was used to upload the torrent, linked to in yesterday&#8217;s <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://torrentfreak.com/nin-uploads-new-album-on-torrent-sites-080303/">piece</a>, was from a user called &#8216;<a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://thepiratebay.org/user/NINOfficial/">NINofficial</a>&#8216;, and included a text about the release. Similar accounts, named NIN, appeared on the private music trackers <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://what.cd">what.cd</a> and <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://waffles.fm">waffles.fm</a> on Friday, and uploaded the same torrent.</p>
<p>Uploads to torrent sites, claiming to be from the owners of the material are not unheard of, but are also not common. When it has happened, it&#8217;s been to public sites, and generally a hoax, which makes people all the more wary when accounts appear, claiming to be &#8216;official&#8217; or from the people behind it.</p>
<p>However, TorrentFreak has verified that the accounts in question, &#8216;NIN&#8217; on both waffles and what, and &#8216;NINOfficial&#8217; on The Pirate Bay, are indeed accounts belonging to the band&#8217;s representatives.</p>
<p>&#8220;last night our <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://ghosts.nin.com">website</a> had to go down for maintenance for a little while due to the incredible amount of traffic and downloads, and we linked directly to our Pirate Bay<a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4059158/Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Ghosts_I_(2008)"> torrent</a> as a way for people to get the music while we were offline.&#8221; Rob Sheridan, Art Director for NIN told TorrentFreak, adding &#8220;I noticed our official torrent of Ghosts I was in the top 10 of all torrents on The Pirate Bay last night.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We use torrents ourselves, and we know that most NIN fans are tech-savvy and familiar with file-sharing, so we want to experiment with ways to use that to our advantage, instead of making the mistake of trying to fight or ignore it, as so many artists and labels do.&#8221; NIN&#8217;s Rob Sheridan added. Many sites, too are willing to work with artists with programs such as Mininova&#8217;s content distribution platform and What.cd&#8217;s &#8216;Vanity House&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is not sure how NIN got invited to both OiNK replacements what.cd and waffles.fm, however, since Trent Reznor himself <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/nine-inch-nails-frontman-was-a-member-of-oink-071031/">admitted</a> to be a frequent user of OiNK, he probably signed up at the trackers from the start, and invited the official NIN user.</p>
<p>Of course, not everyone gets this, some news sites have been reporting that the accounts are bogus, or that the torrents, including the official ones, are <a TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/04/reznor_gift_spurned/">stealing</a>. An admin of one of the private tracker did have a sobering comment though &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t help that the full version is available as well on music torrent sites in general.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>screenshot of the official NIN profile at what.cd</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://torrentfreak.com//images/nin-what.jpg" alt="nin"></p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://torrentfreak.com">TorrentFreak</a>, for the latest info on <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/copyright-issues/">copyright</a>, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/pirate-talk/">file-sharing</a> and <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/">anonymous VPN services</a>.</p>
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		<title>What Waffles? The Hydra Lives On</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Jones]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the demise of oink, many music aficionados were left with little in the way of similar sites. However, true to the hydra phenomenon, a week later and several new sites have sprung up to replace it. We asked the admins of two of these sites for their future plans.<p>Source: <a href="http://torrentfreak.com">TorrentFreak</a>, for the latest info on <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/copyright-issues/">copyright</a>, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/pirate-talk/">file-sharing</a> and <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/">anonymous VPN services</a>.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://torrentfreak.com//images/hydrapigbz9.jpg"><img src="http://torrentfreak.com//images/hydra-oink.jpg" align="right" alt="What Waffles? The Hydra Lives On"></a>Both what.cd and waffles.fm are set to continue from where oink left off, with the same rules and requirements. Each of them aiming to provide music lovers with a place to both share and discuss music.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://what.cd" TARGET="_blank">What.cd</a> (currently offline at time of publication) was founded the day of the OiNK takedown. &#8220;I felt sick to my stomach all morning&#8221; was how &#8216;What&#8217;, co-founder of what.cd described the day OiNK got raided. &#8220;We plan to grow into a large tracker &#8211; probably not as large as oink, and not as open, but eventually, I would like to support at least a hundred thousand users,&#8221; he adds</p>
<p><a HREF="http://waffles.fm/" TARGET="_blank">Waffles.fm</a> on the other hand, doesn&#8217;t open for another few hours (12:01AM PST on October 31st). &#8220;In principle we&#8217;re filling a gap in the market &#8211; a lot of people just don&#8217;t get on with open / lenient trackers. In restoring that we&#8217;re also bringing back the community OiNK had, which is a big part of it,&#8221; is how waffles co-founder &#8216;Barney&#8217; put his site to TorrentFreak. He is also not being as openly ambitious at first as &#8220;What&#8221; either &#8220;We&#8217;re looking at inviting perhaps 200 or less people on the opening day. We&#8217;ll gradually invite more people as things progress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither of the admins showed much enthusiasm for <a HREF="http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-to-bring-back-oink-071026/">BOiNK</a>, the project that is in development by the guys behind The Pirate Bay. Their main concerns were in the overall quality, and longevity of torrents on a public tracker. Somewhat ironically, however, both sites are aiming on moving to take up permanent hosting at the PRQ datacenter, as soon as upgrades there are complete. &#8220;The electricians started their work of installing another 3x200A feed yesterday&#8221; a PRQ source told TorrentFreak today.</p>
<p>And the reaction of the old OiNK staffers? <a HREF="http://tehpaine.blogspot.com/" TARGET="_blank">Paine</a>, currently the public voice of the old OiNK team, had no real comment on them, beyond hoping they both do well, and reiterating that neither is an &#8216;official&#8217; replacement for OiNK.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://torrentfreak.com">TorrentFreak</a>, for the latest info on <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/copyright-issues/">copyright</a>, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/category/pirate-talk/">file-sharing</a> and <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/">anonymous VPN services</a>.</p>
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