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	<title>Comments on: TalkTalk HomeSafe Blocks BitTorrent Sites</title>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-796629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And lewts not forget about that other form of censorship we have here in the uk, going under the guise as a net nanny called the (IWF)  and it&#039;s filter list&#039;s,and more importantly the way in which isp&#039;s implement it, they never get it right, 
Isp BE THERE /O2 has to be be the worse at filtering using the IWF lists, blocking all downloads from several file hosting sites, mainly FILESERVE.COM FILESONIC.COM are affected the most, even those with a premium account are being restricted getting speeds of only 200kbps instead of line speed, with the download failing to complete, they are blanket blocking these and surely that must be illegal ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And lewts not forget about that other form of censorship we have here in the uk, going under the guise as a net nanny called the (IWF)  and it&#8217;s filter list&#8217;s,and more importantly the way in which isp&#8217;s implement it, they never get it right,<br />
Isp BE THERE /O2 has to be be the worse at filtering using the IWF lists, blocking all downloads from several file hosting sites, mainly FILESERVE.COM FILESONIC.COM are affected the most, even those with a premium account are being restricted getting speeds of only 200kbps instead of line speed, with the download failing to complete, they are blanket blocking these and surely that must be illegal ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sdasds</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795987</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@8d29b83a1914ac2e8b92bcaa0805147e:disqus You are not a hopeless pevert... Its normal to feel sexual atraction.


The only thing porn to children do is hurt religious indroctrinaton from a religion which depends on it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8d29b83a1914ac2e8b92bcaa0805147e:disqus You are not a hopeless pevert&#8230; Its normal to feel sexual atraction.</p>
<p>The only thing porn to children do is hurt religious indroctrinaton from a religion which depends on it.<br />
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		<title>By: TalkTalk offers users filter to block malevolent sites &#124; IT Rentals</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TalkTalk offers users filter to block malevolent sites &#124; IT Rentals]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 09:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] software system, called Home Safe is run from the central computer of the company and acts as a shield, situating itself between the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Linjin0012</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linjin0012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ All the products are free shipping, and the 
the price is enticement
Posted by  www.yessoso.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> All the products are free shipping, and the<br />
the price is enticement<br />
Posted by  <a href="http://www.yessoso.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.yessoso.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matheus Svensson</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795462</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be fair to TalkTak, HomeSafe is provided using bought in technology.  Similarly, very few people care what lists and algorithms are used by the anti-virus software on their local computer, just that it works.


The system is provided by Huawei-Symantec .  If you want to learn a little more, you can read Dr Clayton’s short summary.


http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/talktalk.pdf


Even if TalkTalk knows the minutiae of how HomeSafe works, it’s likely forbidden from divulging any information by the contract it’s signed.


Dr Clayton’s report states that HTTPS is unaffected.  Can any TalkTalk users confirm that secure sites such as the following are reachable?


https://thepiratebay.org/

https://isohunt.com/

https://www.newzbin.com/

https://www.rapidshare.com/


and even


https://torrentfreak.com/


Note, the TorrentFreak web server does not send the necessary intermediate certificates for the site’s certificate.  This may cause your browser to freak out.  If your browser has seen the intermediate certificates in the past and cached them, there is no problem.  If the browser doesn’t know the intermediate certificates, it won’t be able to validate the certificate for TorrentFreak.  You can manually download them from Comodo and install them in your browser.


https://support.comodo.com/index.php?_m=downloads&amp;_a=downloadfile&amp;downloaditemid=31
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to TalkTak, HomeSafe is provided using bought in technology.  Similarly, very few people care what lists and algorithms are used by the anti-virus software on their local computer, just that it works.</p>
<p>The system is provided by Huawei-Symantec .  If you want to learn a little more, you can read Dr Clayton’s short summary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/talktalk.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/talktalk.pdf</a></p>
<p>Even if TalkTalk knows the minutiae of how HomeSafe works, it’s likely forbidden from divulging any information by the contract it’s signed.</p>
<p>Dr Clayton’s report states that HTTPS is unaffected.  Can any TalkTalk users confirm that secure sites such as the following are reachable?</p>
<p><a href="https://thepiratebay.org/" rel="nofollow">https://thepiratebay.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://isohunt.com/" rel="nofollow">https://isohunt.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.newzbin.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.newzbin.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.rapidshare.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.rapidshare.com/</a></p>
<p>and even</p>
<p><a href="https://torrentfreak.com/" rel="nofollow">https://torrentfreak.com/</a></p>
<p>Note, the TorrentFreak web server does not send the necessary intermediate certificates for the site’s certificate.  This may cause your browser to freak out.  If your browser has seen the intermediate certificates in the past and cached them, there is no problem.  If the browser doesn’t know the intermediate certificates, it won’t be able to validate the certificate for TorrentFreak.  You can manually download them from Comodo and install them in your browser.</p>
<p><a href="https://support.comodo.com/index.php?_m=downloads&#038;_a=downloadfile&#038;downloaditemid=31" rel="nofollow">https://support.comodo.com/index.php?_m=downloads&#038;_a=downloadfile&#038;downloaditemid=31</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit80</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795204</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Not on the unlimited packages they don&#039;t. I can D/L torrents / emule etc with TalkTalk at my maximum line speed - even during peak hours (not that I do this much as I have a seedbox and generally use a VPN anyway). To be honest, I have no issues with TalkTalk&#039;s speeds at all - My biggest issue is that BT still control the line from the exchange and as a result I cannot get more than around 9Mbps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Not on the unlimited packages they don&#8217;t. I can D/L torrents / emule etc with TalkTalk at my maximum line speed &#8211; even during peak hours (not that I do this much as I have a seedbox and generally use a VPN anyway). To be honest, I have no issues with TalkTalk&#8217;s speeds at all &#8211; My biggest issue is that BT still control the line from the exchange and as a result I cannot get more than around 9Mbps.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabbit80</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rabbit80]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Not on the unlimited packages they don&#039;t. I can D/L torrents / emule etc with TalkTalk at my maximum line speed - even during peak hours (not that I do this much as I have a seedbox and generally use a VPN anyway). To be honest, I have no issues with TalkTalk&#039;s speeds at all - My biggest issue is that BT still control the line from the exchange and as a result I cannot get more than around 9Mbps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Not on the unlimited packages they don&#8217;t. I can D/L torrents / emule etc with TalkTalk at my maximum line speed &#8211; even during peak hours (not that I do this much as I have a seedbox and generally use a VPN anyway). To be honest, I have no issues with TalkTalk&#8217;s speeds at all &#8211; My biggest issue is that BT still control the line from the exchange and as a result I cannot get more than around 9Mbps.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whatever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that the filter is live (if not then porn blocking doesn&#039;t work either). Torrentfreak is blocked because it has the word torrent on the site. Someone with a webpage should try to access their own page after placing the word torrent somewhere (someone with talktalk)




The filter is probably something stupid like this:

1. Find word &quot;torrent&quot; in site.

2. If result = yes then block.


Couldn&#039;t be easier.


For TF not to be blocked it will probably need a whitelist entry at the ISP.


As for parental control, children can&#039;t do much harm or be harmed if the computer they use is correctly secured (not all will agree) . For any parent the first thing is NOT to make the kids administrator (Didn&#039;t even find children games that needed it YET, although did need to set specific rights to some items) but normal users. This is already half the solution. It also saves a lot of work when some other kids come over and try to install some vague applications from the internet.


(BTW: Beware of &quot;web applications&quot; like a Google youtube programs with webcam access)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the filter is live (if not then porn blocking doesn&#8217;t work either). Torrentfreak is blocked because it has the word torrent on the site. Someone with a webpage should try to access their own page after placing the word torrent somewhere (someone with talktalk)</p>
<p>The filter is probably something stupid like this:</p>
<p>1. Find word &#8220;torrent&#8221; in site.</p>
<p>2. If result = yes then block.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t be easier.</p>
<p>For TF not to be blocked it will probably need a whitelist entry at the ISP.</p>
<p>As for parental control, children can&#8217;t do much harm or be harmed if the computer they use is correctly secured (not all will agree) . For any parent the first thing is NOT to make the kids administrator (Didn&#8217;t even find children games that needed it YET, although did need to set specific rights to some items) but normal users. This is already half the solution. It also saves a lot of work when some other kids come over and try to install some vague applications from the internet.</p>
<p>(BTW: Beware of &#8220;web applications&#8221; like a Google youtube programs with webcam access)</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Brown</title>
		<link>/talktalk-homesafe-blocks-bittorrent-sites-110509/#comment-795096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TalkTalk act all high and mighty when it comes to file sharing, but they still throttle P2P traffic. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TalkTalk act all high and mighty when it comes to file sharing, but they still throttle P2P traffic. </p>
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		<title>By: Donotreply</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donotreply]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1984 is a book by George Orwell, basically it&#039;s about life under a totalitarian government.


Extended description:

book:


http://www.george-orwell.org/1984





Free to read there (certain trolls can&#039;t argue with the sites disclaimer - http://www.george-orwell.org/l_disclaimer.html ).


If you want there are movie renditions of the book:


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/ (1984 version ironically)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048918/ (1956 version)


How you obtain the movie is none of my business; however borrowing it from a library or something would be the cheapest legal option.


Hope that helps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1984 is a book by George Orwell, basically it&#8217;s about life under a totalitarian government.</p>
<p>Extended description:</p>
<p>book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.george-orwell.org/1984" rel="nofollow">http://www.george-orwell.org/1984</a></p>
<p>Free to read there (certain trolls can&#8217;t argue with the sites disclaimer &#8211; <a href="http://www.george-orwell.org/l_disclaimer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.george-orwell.org/l_disclaimer.html</a> ).</p>
<p>If you want there are movie renditions of the book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/</a> (1984 version ironically)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048918/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048918/</a> (1956 version)</p>
<p>How you obtain the movie is none of my business; however borrowing it from a library or something would be the cheapest legal option.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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